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warning: The big PIC

but... too bad she can't fire a main battery broadside without capsizing.

Stability is also less than ideal, though that problem could be dealt with by trimming the vessel differently.

Trim could also solve the recoil issue, though I don't know how far down the steadiness will end up in order to get the recoil below 1...

Its an absolutely stunning drawing! Prodigious attention to detail, and a very pretty Dragon emblem.

Its like Iowa meets Yamato meets Vanguard. Very impressive looking.

Who!! Did you all drew by your self? how much time did you spend on it?

Beautiful drawing, love to see the SS report on this monster!

Awesome little ship! ;o)

Crap, that's like Yamato and Iowa had a bastard lovechild, which picked up an odball secondary battery.

And unfortunately, she picked up most of the ugly superstructure features of Iowa. She's like a Monty on really really bad acid.

And considering main firing practice was NOT to fire all guns at once, primarily due to recoil - even Prince of Wales could roll herself with an alpha-strike broadside - I seriously doubt just One of those dozen monsters would cause her to roll all that heavily. But gods would I love to be on the deck to hear that earth-shattering boom.

And the guns... those AA guns on the broadside deck should go. The ones along the weather deck I mean - most of those are blanked for the majority of their firing, they're just wasteful. Equally with the 20mm galleries on the deck behind turret D - why bother with those? 20mm were fading out towards the war's end, most every country was realizing they were a waste of weight, manpower and bullets to try and stop enemy aircraft. Flakvierlings are cool, but the pedestal mounts are a waste, and certainly not in those numbers. Bofors Quads were good for range, but their practical rate of fire wasn't all that good owing to the short ammo feeds. 2 Pdrs at least had the edge there - feed and rate of fire, but they had horrible range. And the secondaries - I hope to god those have some DP capacity, otherwise they might as well be a waste of weight.

Much of a Battleship Fetishist as I am, that thing's just... Ugly.

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Originally posted by ALVAMA
Who!! Did you all drew by your self? how much time did you spend on it?

Author: Jomcat. Maybe A chinese BB fans.

I don't know how much time he spend it.

Just had to SS this beast. Used a laydown date of 1950 as none was given...

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Ding Yuan, Chinese Super Battleship laid down 1950

Displacement:
122,601 t light; 129,019 t standard; 137,613 t normal; 144,488 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
1,149.30 ft / 1,149.30 ft x 145.70 ft x 49.00 ft (normal load)
350.31 m / 350.31 m x 44.41 m x 14.94 m

Armament:
12 - 18.90" / 480 mm guns (4x3 guns), 3,375.63lbs / 1,531.16kg shells, 1950 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (12x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1950 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
120 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (30x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1950 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 22 raised mounts
100 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (25x4 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1950 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
32 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (16x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1950 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 43,365 lbs / 19,670 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 17.0" / 432 mm 700.00 ft / 213.36 m 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 400.00 ft / 121.92 m 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
49.30 ft / 15.03 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 10.0" / 254 mm 600.00 ft / 182.88 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Main Belt covers 94 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.50" / 38 mm 1,000.00 ft / 304.80 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 18.0" / 457 mm 10.0" / 254 mm 18.0" / 457 mm
2nd: 5.00" / 127 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
5th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 11.00" / 279 mm, Conning tower: 16.00" / 406 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 278,271 shp / 207,590 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 16,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 15,469 tons

Complement:
3,572 - 4,644

Cost:
£76.434 million / $305.738 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 5,421 tons, 3.9 %
Armour: 48,774 tons, 35.4 %
- Belts: 13,550 tons, 9.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,110 tons, 0.8 %
- Armament: 8,573 tons, 6.2 %
- Armour Deck: 24,622 tons, 17.9 %
- Conning Tower: 919 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 6,657 tons, 4.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 60,799 tons, 44.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 15,012 tons, 10.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 950 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
241,171 lbs / 109,393 Kg = 71.4 x 18.9 " / 480 mm shells or 39.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 10.7 ft / 3.3 m
Roll period: 18.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 58 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.44
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.587
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.89 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 33.90 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 37.29 ft / 11.37 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.73 ft / 7.23 m
- Mid (50 %): 23.73 ft / 7.23 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 23.73 ft / 7.23 m
- Stern: 23.73 ft / 7.23 m
- Average freeboard: 24.81 ft / 7.56 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 55.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.1 %
Waterplane Area: 120,992 Square feet or 11,240 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 129 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 366 lbs/sq ft or 1,787 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.43
- Longitudinal: 1.31
- Overall: 1.34
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Miscellaneous weight includes a stern mounted crane, two catapults and six floatplanes with a hanger.