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The following is about a super 1900AC.

the design can retain on 7 main guns (210mm) on the every shipboard. and To forward, 4 guns.

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1900super AC, Chinese ASC laid down 1903

Displacement:
11,566 t light; 12,086 t standard; 13,380 t normal; 14,415 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(507.28 ft / 485.56 ft) x 59.06 ft (Bulges 65.62 ft) x (26.25 / 28.04 ft)
(154.62 m / 148.00 m) x 18.00 m (Bulges 20.00 m) x (8.00 / 8.55 m)

Armament:
6 - 8.27" / 210 mm 45.0 cal guns - 284.97lbs / 129.26kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1903 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck forward
2 - 8.27" / 210 mm 45.0 cal guns - 284.97lbs / 129.26kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1903 Model
1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
6 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 103.86lbs / 47.11kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1903 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1903 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
12 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.57lbs / 0.71kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 3,026 lbs / 1,372 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.27" / 210 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 10.86 ft / 3.31 m
Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 124.64 ft / 37.99 m 9.97 ft / 3.04 m
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Main Belt covers 114% of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.66" / 220 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 8.66" / 220 mm
2nd: 8.27" / 210 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 8.27" / 210 mm
3rd: 4.72" / 120 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 12.01" / 305 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 26,078 ihp / 19,455 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 5,500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,330 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
621 - 808

Cost:
£1.199 million / $4.797 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 737 tons, 5.5%
- Guns: 737 tons, 5.5%
Armour: 3,618 tons, 27.0%
- Belts: 2,072 tons, 15.5%
- Armament: 723 tons, 5.4%
- Armour Deck: 678 tons, 5.1%
- Conning Tower: 146 tons, 1.1%
Machinery: 3,892 tons, 29.1%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,319 tons, 24.8%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,814 tons, 13.6%
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,170 lbs / 4,613 Kg = 36.0 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 14.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a round stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.560 / 0.565
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.40 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 32.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18.00%, 24.25 ft / 7.39 m, 18.50 ft / 5.64 m
- Forward deck: 32.00%, 18.50 ft / 5.64 m, 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Aft deck: 35.00%, 14.76 ft / 4.50 m, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00%, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m, 16.73 ft / 5.10 m
- Average freeboard: 16.84 ft / 5.13 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112.1%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.6%
Waterplane Area: 20,201 Square feet or 1,877 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 111 lbs/sq ft or 540 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.62
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Interesting. Has the layout of a Dreadnought.

The picture doesn't match the design in a couple of ways:

The design has 4 twin 210mm turrets, the picture has 3 and 2 singles.

The design has the 150mm guns at main deck level, the picture has them in below-deck casemates.

The design has the 75mm guns in below-deck casemates, but they're missing from the picture.

I went ahead and redid the design to match the drawing. Changes:

1) Used SS2 rather than SS3 (I really need to start getting familiar with SS3 here soon)
2) Changed engine date to 1900
3) Reduced armor on casemate guns
4) Added 50 tons miscellaneous weight (design is fairly tight so not much you can add)

As you can see displacement went up about 10% but it's still a good design except for the Main Battery layout.

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X-1, China Large Armored Cruiser laid down 1903 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
12,861 t light; 13,427 t standard; 14,880 t normal; 16,041 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
528.99 ft / 507.28 ft x 59.06 ft (Bulges 65.62 ft) x 26.25 ft (normal load)
161.24 m / 154.62 m x 18.00 m (Bulges 20.00 m) x 8.00 m

Armament:
6 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (3x2 guns), 282.80lbs / 128.28kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
2 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns in single mounts, 282.80lbs / 128.28kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all forward
6 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 103.21lbs / 46.82kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
6 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1903 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
12 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1903 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3,003 lbs / 1,362 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.27" / 210 mm 378.70 ft / 115.43 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 124.64 ft / 37.99 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
3.94 ft / 1.20 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 378.70 ft / 115.43 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.66" / 220 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 8.66" / 220 mm
2nd: 8.66" / 220 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 8.66" / 220 mm
3rd: 5.00" / 127 mm - -
4th: 3.00" / 76 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27,654 ihp / 20,630 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 5,500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,614 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
673 - 875

Cost:
£1.370 million / $5.482 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 375 tons, 2.5 %
Armour: 4,025 tons, 27.0 %
- Belts: 2,217 tons, 14.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 908 tons, 6.1 %
- Armour Deck: 796 tons, 5.3 %
- Conning Tower: 104 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 4,321 tons, 29.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,090 tons, 27.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,018 tons, 13.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,534 lbs / 4,778 Kg = 37.2 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.46

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.596
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.73 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.52 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 32.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.25 ft / 7.39 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.50 ft / 5.64 m
- Mid (50 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.73 ft / 5.10 m (15.75 ft / 4.80 m before break)
- Stern: 15.77 ft / 4.81 m
- Average freeboard: 16.93 ft / 5.16 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.2 %
Waterplane Area: 21,830 Square feet or 2,028 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 549 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.42
- Overall: 1.03
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Quoted

Originally posted by eltf177
1) Used SS2 rather than SS3 (I really need to start getting familiar with SS3 here soon)

The board has never officially moved on to SS3, since it's still in beta. Some of us use SS3 anyway, but mostly it's still SS2. Ergo, not a problem.

1900…Åá, Chinese ASC laid down 1903

Displacement:
11,576 t light; 12,086 t standard; 13,380 t normal; 14,415 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(507.28 ft / 485.56 ft) x 59.06 ft (Bulges 65.62 ft) x (26.25 / 28.04 ft)
(154.62 m / 148.00 m) x 18.00 m (Bulges 20.00 m) x (8.00 / 8.55 m)

Armament:
6 - 8.27" / 210 mm 45.0 cal guns - 284.97lbs / 129.26kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1903 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck forward
2 - 8.27" / 210 mm 45.0 cal guns - 284.97lbs / 129.26kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1903 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
6 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 103.86lbs / 47.11kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1903 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1903 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.57lbs / 0.71kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 3,019 lbs / 1,370 kg
Main Torpedoes
2 - 15.0" / 380 mm, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m torpedoes - 0.561 t each, 1.123 t total
submerged bow & stern tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.27" / 210 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 10.86 ft / 3.31 m
Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 124.64 ft / 37.99 m 9.97 ft / 3.04 m
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Main Belt covers 114% of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.66" / 220 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 8.66" / 220 mm
2nd: 8.27" / 210 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 8.27" / 210 mm
3rd: 4.72" / 120 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 8.66" / 220 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 26,078 ihp / 19,455 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 5,500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,330 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
621 - 808

Cost:
£1.199 million / $4.797 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 770 tons, 5.8%
- Guns: 767 tons, 5.7%
- Weapons: 2 tons, 0.0%
Armour: 3,654 tons, 27.3%
- Belts: 2,077 tons, 15.5%
- Armament: 795 tons, 5.9%
- Armour Deck: 678 tons, 5.1%
- Conning Tower: 105 tons, 0.8%
Machinery: 3,892 tons, 29.1%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,260 tons, 24.4%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,804 tons, 13.5%
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,101 lbs / 4,582 Kg = 35.7 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 3.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 14.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.38
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a round stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.560 / 0.565
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.40 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 32.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18.00%, 24.25 ft / 7.39 m, 18.50 ft / 5.64 m
- Forward deck: 32.00%, 18.50 ft / 5.64 m, 14.93 ft / 4.55 m
- Aft deck: 35.00%, 14.93 ft / 4.55 m, 15.91 ft / 4.85 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00%, 15.91 ft / 4.85 m, 16.73 ft / 5.10 m
- Average freeboard: 16.94 ft / 5.16 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112.3%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.4%
Waterplane Area: 20,201 Square feet or 1,877 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 536 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.60
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

1900…Åá, Chinese ASC laid down 1903

Displacement:
11,605 t light; 12,086 t standard; 13,380 t normal; 14,415 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(507.28 ft / 485.56 ft) x 59.06 ft (Bulges 65.62 ft) x (26.25 / 28.04 ft)
(154.62 m / 148.00 m) x 18.00 m (Bulges 20.00 m) x (8.00 / 8.55 m)

Armament:
6 - 8.27" / 210 mm 45.0 cal guns - 284.97lbs / 129.26kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1903 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck forward
2 - 8.27" / 210 mm 45.0 cal guns - 284.97lbs / 129.26kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1903 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
6 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 103.86lbs / 47.11kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1903 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1903 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.57lbs / 0.71kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 3,019 lbs / 1,370 kg
Main Torpedoes
2 - 15.0" / 380 mm, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m torpedoes - 0.561 t each, 1.123 t total
submerged bow & stern tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.27" / 210 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 10.86 ft / 3.31 m
Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 124.64 ft / 37.99 m 9.97 ft / 3.04 m
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Main Belt covers 114% of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.66" / 220 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 8.66" / 220 mm
2nd: 8.27" / 210 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 8.27" / 210 mm
3rd: 4.72" / 120 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 8.66" / 220 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 26,078 ihp / 19,455 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 5,500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,330 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
621 - 808

Cost:
£1.200 million / $4.801 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 770 tons, 5.8%
- Guns: 767 tons, 5.7%
- Weapons: 2 tons, 0.0%
Armour: 3,646 tons, 27.2%
- Belts: 2,077 tons, 15.5%
- Armament: 802 tons, 6.0%
- Armour Deck: 662 tons, 4.9%
- Conning Tower: 105 tons, 0.8%
Machinery: 3,892 tons, 29.1%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,297 tons, 24.6%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,775 tons, 13.3%
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,248 lbs / 4,649 Kg = 36.3 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 3.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 14.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.39
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.56

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a round stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.560 / 0.565
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.40 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 32.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 24.00%, 24.25 ft / 7.39 m, 20.47 ft / 6.24 m
- Forward deck: 26.00%, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 35.00%, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00%, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 17.74 ft / 5.41 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112.0%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101.6%
Waterplane Area: 20,201 Square feet or 1,877 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 536 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.67
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather