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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 7:24pm

Asian News and Siam

(Thanks Brock for the Spell and Grammer check)

Asian News and Siam

British East Colonial fleet

Siam was one of the tiny countries on the Indian coast of Asia. In the early times they didn’t have any shipbuilders to build any real fighting vessels. In India there were already many and major vessels laid down, and Siam didn’t want to lose any might on the Asian seas. The Siamese got a deal with the British admiralty; if Siam provided a harbour good for a few gunboats, the Navy would help with a yard. In 1850 a heavy wooden battleship was laid down, and many auxiliaries and small fighting vessels were laid down. Suggest "Siam also received a few export orders, building torpedo boats for Annan and Burma in 1870." After the vessels were commissioned in their countries, a second contract was signed and Burma received a second dockyard. Annán, Siam, Ava, Amarapura and Anjouan began building stronger cooperative naval forces." Wooden hulls were built and After only a few years, the first iron-hulled ships were laid down." In 1862 the first iron-hulled warships was commissioned in Siam. But times changed and the rebel muslims grew in power.")

In 1890, after some old wooden and iron-hulled vessels were broken up, followed by a damaged torpedo boat in 1893, the British Department of Foreign affairs ordered 3 new Torpedo boats for the colonial fleet at India. In 1893 three vessels were laid down at the Chatham yard, England; all were launched in February 1894, with the first trials in December 1894. After good trials, the three ships sailed to India for a long spell of service. In 1896 they came for the first time in action against Muslim rebel. Suggest "One of them came under fire from a heavy captured British cannon and was sunk. The second and the third vessels were attacked by small wooden fishing boats from a local village. After a fast conversion one was rebuilt that same year into a mine-laying support vessel.") and blockaded the local harbour. After the war both vessels were used for training and harbour defence ", but there wasn’t any war action any more. In 1906 they become training vessel for Cadets, and both were sold to be broken up at India in 1909-10.

Siam build a few torpedo boats (from the British model) too, they were leased to the British if needed. But they never getting in action because a heavy battleship named Ava attack the fortress from the enemy

After the completion of the three new torpedo boats of the Baluchi-class for India, the department of foreign affairs was still interesting in some more boast of smaller dimensions, the result was the Gurkha-class; they were smaller and had 2 torpedo tubes of 12inch. Because there wasn’t a lot of money for foreign affairs, they get old locomotive boilers from old trains, whish served for transport of the Royal British railways in Asia. They were built at a new dry-dock built by the British in Burma on 1865 In 1896 they too took part in the rebel wars, None were sunk but there were many problems with the old boilers, which needed to be replaced. They didn’t have an active duty in that period, all the time they were Lay at the dry-dock at Burma for repair. After 1896 they received new boilers, and in 1903 sold to Anjouan, where they served until 1917. They were sold to be broken up in 1926 because of their advanced service age.

The Rebels where were not the only problem. France a mighty colonial power, incorporated the Asian states into their power and region of influence, though Ava and Amarapura to the British. France take for years the power on the states, until 1948, because the peoples attack the French and started a Civil war. Though India became independent in 1880, the French seized control of the Southeast Asian states, holding them until a popular uprising in 1948.

The Annán attack on the French.

In the early morning a few warships under the Annanese flag attacked the French cruiser Cléber. The gunfire of the shocked cruiser destroyed. Two converted yachts were build The larger of the two converted yachts rammed the French ship, creating a giant explosion.The Annanese ship survived, but required extensive repairs. "No crew of the cruiser survived. This was the last time any French warships entered the harbour of Saigon A few still incomplete ships were blown up. Only four vessels served in the Annanese Navy until 1912.and in the 30ties a few MTB would be build at Siam for there Navy

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ALVAMA" (Dec 3rd 2009, 7:25pm)


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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 11:21pm

I'd advise removing any references to 'future' events (compared to the 'current' time of c1938), as such events are undoubtedly subject to change in sim conditions, player actions, and other unpredictabilities.

Especially, in this case, since you refer to events in French territory, which is currently run by another player (and likely has his own plans for said territory, both current and future)

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 11:25pm

Um, is this story Wesworld-related? I didn't think it was, but now it's posted here in the News folder... ??? ?(

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 11:52pm

Also the 19th Century historical facts are wrong compared with WW canon.

Kaiser Kirk

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 7:12am

As always, lovely ships.

Also, nice little write up, but I'm afraid Siam's history has to some degree been laid out.

Commodore Green's Denmark controlled Siam until recently, and has a large hand in events, as well as a treaty to protect Siam.

Bahrat was never a colony of anyone, having fought off the Europeans. The muslim Mughals from the Pakistan area viscously attacked and conquered the hindustanis of India as historical, but the Mughal dynasty did not collapse. Instead they have been invading neighbors ever since. Notably traveling overseas to Sri Lanka to attack the Kingdom of Kandy and their Dutch allies, pushing the Dutch out and brutally subduing the natives of Sri Lanka. (Note : There might be some Dutch bias in their view of Bahrat's history).

Due to this association, Denmark's and it's AANM ally, the Netherlands, maintain ships in Phuket harbor, though the Dutch have repeatedly talked about moving part of their fleet to a more central base. This relationship became more formal when Siam joined AEGIS. As part of that the Dutch gifted Siam with several light units, as well as completing a coast defense battleship to Siam's order.

Siam was also wheeling and dealing with Bahrat and the UK while making noises about where the border with Indochina belonged.

More recently, Siam had a period of protracted corruption due to an international company called HEBCO, with devastating effects on Siam's formerly impressive secret police, the White Mice. HEBCO has collapsed, and seemed to have taken parts of Siam's government with it. Much of HEBCO's senior personnel have been dealt with in various ways, for example I posted a tale of a Dutch kommando force raided one of HEBCOs last bases.

I would suggest talking to Commodore Green regarding the backstory and history. For example there was a clash with Bahrat around 1920.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Dec 4th 2009, 7:15am)


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Friday, December 4th 2009, 7:40am

Siam is almost certainly on the list of states India or China would like to add to their collection of minion states. So far, the Siamese have very neatly maintained their independence against SATSUMA's "liberation". Siam's alliance with AEGIS has been pretty profitable for the Siamese, too.

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 5:21pm

Not for Wesworld. I'll do other stories of the 30ties if peru

could this moved to Shipdesign?

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "ALVAMA" (Dec 4th 2009, 5:21pm)


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Friday, December 4th 2009, 5:27pm

Quoted

Originally posted by ALVAMA
could this moved to Shipdesign?

Can do.

Should we perhaps make a non-Wesworld section in the Ship Design folder to cover other projects which are not Wesworld-related?

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 5:30pm

alternate history stuff Like you navy :D :]

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 5:40pm

Quoted

Originally posted by ALVAMA
alternate history stuff Like you navy :D :]

Indeed. (Actually, if I'd been around at the start of Wesworld, I would have given some serious thought to trying to build Motunui as a player-state.)

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 5:58pm

Who Awesome I could make from my Alternate nation on as well... :P :D Middle-small nation whit an Navy of the 1900 to 1945 :]