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Saturday, October 31st 2009, 5:10pm

Small light cruiser of the MAKEDONIA Class

RHNS MAKEDONIA CL

This is the first ship of the Makedonia class CLs, RHNS MAKEDONIA which was laid down 1931 and followed up from 3 more ships, RHNS THRAKI, HPEIROS & KIPROS which ships named after greek territories!



Main characteristics

LOA: 134,5 m
Beam: 14 m
Depth: 5 m
Max speed: 30 kts
Armament: 2x3 x 6 in
4x2 x 4 in dual porpose guns
4x2 x 40 mm A/A guns
12x1 x 20 mm A/A guns
2 x 3 x 21 in torpado tubes

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Saturday, October 31st 2009, 5:19pm

Very handsome little cruisers!

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Saturday, October 31st 2009, 5:37pm

nice drawing

Lovely little cruisers

HoOmAn

Keeper of the Sacred Block Coefficient

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Saturday, October 31st 2009, 8:41pm

Mini-Deutschland! ^^

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Saturday, October 31st 2009, 11:03pm

Thanks guys!

Thanks a lot guys!!!
Yes indeed, it looks a lot like Deutschland class but the initial plan didn't look at all like this...it's came like that at the development of my plan, as i am lended some parts from the deutschland class as the main mast & the 2 triple turrets.

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Wednesday, November 11th 2009, 6:50pm

Great

What can I say? Great as always!!

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Saturday, November 14th 2009, 2:08pm

Another fantastic design, just _had_ to sim her. Some data had to be guessed at...

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Makedonia, Greece Light Cruiser laid down 1931

Displacement:
5,651 t light; 5,860 t standard; 6,290 t normal; 6,633 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
457.46 ft / 441.30 ft x 47.60 ft x 16.40 ft (normal load)
139.43 m / 134.51 m x 14.51 m x 5.00 m

Armament:
6 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (2x3 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1931 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (4x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1931 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1931 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
12 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1931 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 922 lbs / 418 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 320.00 ft / 97.54 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 112 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 3.00" / 76 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
4th: 0.25" / 6 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 60,229 shp / 44,931 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 774 tons

Complement:
353 - 459

Cost:
£2.386 million / $9.544 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 115 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 1,027 tons, 16.3 %
- Belts: 398 tons, 6.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 165 tons, 2.6 %
- Armour Deck: 442 tons, 7.0 %
- Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 1,801 tons, 28.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,657 tons, 42.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 639 tons, 10.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7,726 lbs / 3,504 Kg = 71.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
Roll period: 14.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.83
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.44

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.639
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.27 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.01 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.71 ft / 7.53 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 24.71 ft / 7.53 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.71 ft / 7.53 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.71 ft / 4.48 m (24.71 ft / 7.53 m before break)
- Stern: 14.71 ft / 4.48 m
- Average freeboard: 23.21 ft / 7.07 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 170.6 %
Waterplane Area: 15,930 Square feet or 1,480 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 406 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.85
- Longitudinal: 4.23
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

The 40mm cannons are in "B" and "X" positions plus 2 beam mounts. The TT's are in triple beam mounts.

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Managed to get everything in but she's a bit larger than I'd like, although she compares fairly well to the RN Arethusa's which were very similar but had their six 6-inch guns in twin turrets.

Miscellaneous weight kept to a minimum as design is just too small for much upgrade; make a few of the single 20mm's twins and maybe throw a couple of DC racks on the stern.

Any ideas on how to tweak this?

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Saturday, November 14th 2009, 2:35pm

Misc weight should also include the weight of torpedo reloads if any are carried.

Extra misc weight and a slightly higher range can sometimes bring the tonnage down.

The Block co-eff seems abit high for a CL but then again she does have triples.

Perhaps two additional designs can be spawned from this one.

The first a slower coastal defence cruiser and the other a fast CL with 3 twin turrets, one being super emposed aft.