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Designed to take either the fitted armament, or a triple 320mm.

X-1, Filipino Monitor laid down 1917 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
3,653 t light; 4,067 t standard; 4,919 t normal; 5,600 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
219.82 ft / 213.25 ft x 49.21 ft (Bulges 82.02 ft) x 13.12 ft (normal load)
67.00 m / 65.00 m x 15.00 m (Bulges 25.00 m) x 4.00 m

Armament:
2 - 14.96" / 380 mm guns (1x2 guns), 1,653.47lbs / 750.00kg shells, 1917 Model
Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline forward
2 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (1x2 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1917 Model
Quick firing guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline aft
4 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns in single mounts, 48.50lbs / 22.00kg shells, 1917 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
2 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 1.32lbs / 0.60kg shells, 1917 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
4 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1917 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 3,710 lbs / 1,683 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 170.60 ft / 52.00 m 8.43 ft / 2.57 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 123 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 2.56" / 65 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 2.95" / 75 mm 1.18" / 30 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines plus diesel motors,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 2,500 ihp / 1,865 Kw = 12.31 kts
Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 1,533 tons)

Complement:
293 - 381

Cost:
£0.979 million / $3.916 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 468 tons, 9.5 %
Armour: 775 tons, 15.8 %
- Belts: 296 tons, 6.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 130 tons, 2.6 %
- Armour Deck: 320 tons, 6.5 %
- Conning Tower: 29 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 126 tons, 2.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,034 tons, 41.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,266 tons, 25.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 5.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5,036 lbs / 2,285 Kg = 3.0 x 15.0 " / 380 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 19.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.11

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.750
Length to Beam Ratio: 2.60 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Forecastle (5 %): 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Stern: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Average freeboard: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 56.2 %
Waterplane Area: 8,790 Square feet or 817 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 148 lbs/sq ft or 721 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.91
- Longitudinal: 3.49
- Overall: 1.05
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Looks okay, but what's with the 1917 date?

...whoops.
I knew I was forgetting to change something from the basic date I was using...

Also, as a note, the propulsion plan is two 1,000hp diesels on the outer shafts, with a 500hp coal-driven center shaft for auxiliary/emergency propulsion.

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Originally posted by Swamphen
...whoops.
I knew I was forgetting to change something from the basic date I was using...

Also, as a note, the propulsion plan is two 1,000hp diesels on the outer shafts, with a 500hp coal-driven center shaft for auxiliary/emergency propulsion.

If it were me, I'd switch off to all diesel and use a geared drive. I'm extremely unfond of three-shaft designs - the only time I've ever put together a three-shaft design was on an icebreaker, with 1 shaft for reversing power. The beam's still narrow enough that I'd prefer two shafts. You're not putting out enough speed or SHP to even remotely bother a ship with twin shafts.

Hm, true.
However the Admiralty insists on a "station-keeping emergency powerplant" capable of propelling the ship at 5 knots. The Design Office figures that it might as well define "Emergency" as "in the event of kerosene being unavailable being able to burn abundantly available coal..."
...or wood...
...or the crew's dirty laundry...

...and, thus, a 150-hp steam engine was installed on a centre shaft.

It might be noted that I've upsized the design slightly; in order to fit with the roles intended, the extra size was necessary.

X-1, Filipino Monitor laid down 1938

Displacement:
6,448 t light; 6,796 t standard; 7,747 t normal; 8,508 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
219.82 ft / 213.25 ft x 82.02 ft (Bulges 114.83 ft) x 14.76 ft (normal load)
67.00 m / 65.00 m x 25.00 m (Bulges 35.00 m) x 4.50 m

Armament:
3 - 12.60" / 320 mm guns (1x3 guns), 992.08lbs / 450.00kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline forward
2 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (1x2 guns), 110.23lbs / 50.00kg shells, 1938 Model
Quick firing guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline aft
4 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns in single mounts, 48.50lbs / 22.00kg shells, 1938 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
2 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 1938 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
4 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1938 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 3,393 lbs / 1,539 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 170.60 ft / 52.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 123 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
0.79" / 20 mm 170.60 ft / 52.00 m 14.76 ft / 4.50 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 2.56" / 65 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 2.95" / 75 mm 1.18" / 30 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines plus diesel motors,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 5,150 ihp / 3,842 Kw = 13.46 kts
13.37 kts on 2x2500shp diesels
Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 1,713 tons)

Complement:
412 - 536

Cost:
£3.444 million / $13.777 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 424 tons, 5.5 %
Armour: 1,347 tons, 17.4 %
- Belts: 518 tons, 6.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 73 tons, 0.9 %
- Armament: 172 tons, 2.2 %
- Armour Deck: 533 tons, 6.9 %
- Conning Tower: 50 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 208 tons, 2.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,269 tons, 55.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,300 tons, 16.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,685 lbs / 4,847 Kg = 10.7 x 12.6 " / 320 mm shells or 3.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 21.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.13
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
Block coefficient: 0.750
Length to Beam Ratio: 1.86 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 95
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Forecastle (5 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m (14.76 ft / 4.50 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 14.88 ft / 4.54 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 70.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100.0 %
Waterplane Area: 14,649 Square feet or 1,361 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 145 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 214 lbs/sq ft or 1,044 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.27
- Longitudinal: 8.33
- Overall: 1.54
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Originally posted by Swamphen
Hm, true.
However the Admiralty insists on a "station-keeping emergency powerplant" capable of propelling the ship at 5 knots. The Design Office figures that it might as well define "Emergency" as "in the event of kerosene being unavailable being able to burn abundantly available coal..."
...or wood...
...or the crew's dirty laundry...

...and, thus, a 150-hp steam engine was installed on a centre shaft.

Maybe the Admiralty should consider adding a windmill to turn an electrical generator to run the shaft?

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Originally posted by Swamphen
It might be noted that I've upsized the design slightly; in order to fit with the roles intended, the extra size was necessary.

...considering that high hull strength, I'd suggest either adding more weapons or adding more armour. I'd add more armour, myself: even the British Generals can shoot her up at any range.

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Maybe the Admiralty should consider adding a windmill to turn an electrical generator to run the shaft?

Design Office: "Noooooo! Don't go giving them any ideas!"

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...considering that high hull strength, I'd suggest either adding more weapons or adding more armour. I'd add more armour, myself: even the British Generals can shoot her up at any range.

...let's just say there is A Reason the hull strength was left at 1.54 instead of more armour or smaller size being taken up to use that space.

Obiously all that extra hull stregth is there for an exremely high explosive/flamable substance.

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Originally posted by Swamphen

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Maybe the Admiralty should consider adding a windmill to turn an electrical generator to run the shaft?

Design Office: "Noooooo! Don't go giving them any ideas!"

Or you could rig it like a galleon, and put giant red crosses on it, and slap a big tall stern on it with a window gallery...

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Originally posted by Swamphen

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...considering that high hull strength, I'd suggest either adding more weapons or adding more armour. I'd add more armour, myself: even the British Generals can shoot her up at any range.

...let's just say there is A Reason the hull strength was left at 1.54 instead of more armour or smaller size being taken up to use that space.

Heh, well, since your seaboat rating is only marginal, it can't be speed...

You've got 86' beam and *ten meter wide* bulges...

Trim is not 50 so you must have played with it in design, but that Steadiness of 100 is rather much. I'm guessing that it's set to 70 (or under) on whatever the "real" version of the ship is.

Therefore...

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Originally posted by Desertfox
Obiously all that extra hull stregth is there for an exremely high explosive/flamable substance.

Like the ammo for a twin 18.1" or single 21" gun? I'll have to Springsharp it to tell for certain, but given the above clues, it's the obvious answer.

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I don't like the L:B ratio, honestly.

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Or you could rig it like a galleon, and put giant red crosses on it, and slap a big tall stern on it with a window gallery...

No, but Walter could.

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Heh, well, since your seaboat rating is only marginal, it can't be speed...

You've got 86' beam and *ten meter wide* bulges...

Trim is not 50 so you must have played with it in design, but that Steadiness of 100 is rather much. I'm guessing that it's set to 70 (or under) on whatever the "real" version of the ship is.

Actually, it's set to 98. Gun platform steadiness is the #1 consideration of the Stab/Steady/Seaboat triangle on this ship.

Therefore...

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Like the ammo for a twin 18.1" or single 21" gun? I'll have to Springsharp it to tell for certain, but given the above clues, it's the obvious answer.

"Oh, dear, the secret is out. Now I'll have to kill you all."

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I don't like the L:B ratio, honestly.

...me either. But it needs to fit in one of those pesky little 70m docks.

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Originally posted by Swamphen

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I don't like the L:B ratio, honestly.

...me either. But it needs to fit in one of those pesky little 70m docks.

So then build a 95m dock and construct it in that. We added those since you were last here, though I think Brazil and Chile are the only countries who have yet taken advantage of building them. Even with a 70m dock you didn't even use most of it.

Let's see how close I came, shall we?

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Displacement:
6,461 t light; 6,972 t standard; 7,747 t normal; 8,367 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
213.25 ft / 213.25 ft x 82.02 ft (Bulges 114.83 ft) x 14.76 ft (normal load)
65.00 m / 65.00 m x 25.00 m (Bulges 35.00 m) x 4.50 m

Armament:
2 - 18.11" / 460 mm guns (1x2 guns), 2,969.90lbs / 1,347.13kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline forward
2 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (1x2 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline aft
4 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns in single mounts, 46.40lbs / 21.05kg shells, 1938 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
2 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.31lbs / 0.59kg shells, 1938 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1938 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 6,334 lbs / 2,873 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 170.60 ft / 52.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 123 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
0.79" / 20 mm 137.80 ft / 42.00 m 14.76 ft / 4.50 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 2.56" / 65 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 2.95" / 75 mm 1.18" / 30 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines plus diesel motors,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 5,146 ihp / 3,839 Kw = 13.46 kts
Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,395 tons (40% coal)

Complement:
412 - 536

Cost:
£5.178 million / $20.711 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 792 tons, 10.2 %
Armour: 1,366 tons, 17.6 %
- Belts: 518 tons, 6.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 59 tons, 0.8 %
- Armament: 206 tons, 2.7 %
- Armour Deck: 533 tons, 6.9 %
- Conning Tower: 50 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 196 tons, 2.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,907 tons, 50.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,286 tons, 16.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
8,401 lbs / 3,811 Kg = 2.8 x 18.1 " / 460 mm shells or 2.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 22.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 98 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.26
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
Block coefficient: 0.750
Length to Beam Ratio: 1.86 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 95
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m (14.76 ft / 4.50 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 15.22 ft / 4.64 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 115.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100.0 %
Waterplane Area: 14,649 Square feet or 1,361 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 195 lbs/sq ft or 953 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.86
- Longitudinal: 6.85
- Overall: 1.06
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Kaboomicus Maximus, Philippino Accident Waiting to Happen laid down 1938

Displacement:
6,334 t light; 6,972 t standard; 7,747 t normal; 8,367 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
213.25 ft / 213.25 ft x 82.02 ft (Bulges 114.83 ft) x 14.76 ft (normal load)
65.00 m / 65.00 m x 25.00 m (Bulges 35.00 m) x 4.50 m

Armament:
1 - 22.00" / 559 mm guns in single mounts, 5,324.00lbs / 2,414.93kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading gun in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline forward
2 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (1x2 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline aft
4 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns in single mounts, 46.40lbs / 21.05kg shells, 1938 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
2 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.31lbs / 0.59kg shells, 1938 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1938 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 5,718 lbs / 2,594 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 170.60 ft / 52.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 123 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
0.79" / 20 mm 137.80 ft / 42.00 m 14.76 ft / 4.50 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 2.56" / 65 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 2.95" / 75 mm 1.18" / 30 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines plus diesel motors,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 5,146 ihp / 3,839 Kw = 13.46 kts
Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,395 tons (40% coal)

Complement:
412 - 536

Cost:
£4.788 million / $19.153 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 715 tons, 9.2 %
Armour: 1,321 tons, 17.0 %
- Belts: 518 tons, 6.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 59 tons, 0.8 %
- Armament: 160 tons, 2.1 %
- Armour Deck: 533 tons, 6.9 %
- Conning Tower: 50 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 196 tons, 2.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,903 tons, 50.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,413 tons, 18.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
9,009 lbs / 4,086 Kg = 1.7 x 22.0 " / 559 mm shells or 3.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 22.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.05

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
Block coefficient: 0.750
Length to Beam Ratio: 1.86 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 95
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m (14.76 ft / 4.50 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 15.22 ft / 4.64 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100.0 %
Waterplane Area: 14,649 Square feet or 1,361 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 195 lbs/sq ft or 952 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.91
- Longitudinal: 7.08
- Overall: 1.12
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Kaboomicus Maximus, Philippino Accident Waiting to Happen laid down 1938

That first one is pretty darn close, actually...



..95m docks, you say? *goes off to revise*

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Originally posted by Swamphen
..95m docks, you say? *goes off to revise*

Yup. This is our latest list of facility sizes:

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Size Type Length (m) Length (ft) Cost Turnaround time
0 Slip 70m 230ft 0.5IP 1 week
0 Dry-dock 70m 230ft 1IP 1 week
.5 Slip 95m 312ft .75IP 1 week
.5 Dry-dock 95mft 312 1.5IP 2 weeks
1 Slip 120m 393ft 1IP 2 weeks
1 Dry-dock 120m 393ft 2IP 2 weeks
1.5 Slip 145m 476ft 1.5IP 2 weeks
1.5 Dry-dock 145m 476ft 2.5IP 3 weeks
2 Slip 170m 557ft 2IP 3 weeks
2 Dry-dock 170m 557ft 3IP 3 weeks
2.5 Slip 195m 640ft 2.5IP 3 weeks
2.5 Dry-dock 195m 640ft 3.5IP 4 weeks
3 Slip 220m 721ft 3IP 4 weeks
3 Dry-dock 220m 721ft 4IP 4 weeks
3.5 Slip 245m 804ft 3.5IP 4 weeks
3.5 Dry-dock 245m 804ft 4.5IP 5 weeks
4 Slip 270m 885ft 4IP 5 weeks
4 Dry-dock 270m 885ft 5IP 5 weeks
4.5 Slip 295m 968ft 4.5IP 5 weeks
4.5 Dry-dock 295m 968ft 5.5IP 6 weeks
5 Slip 320m 1049ft 5 6 weeks
5 Dry-dock 320m 1049ft 6 6 weeks

Part of the rationale was to help small powers who couldn't afford to spend 1 IP to lengthen a slip, but might be able to manage .5 IP to lengthen it a little bit less. A country like, say, the Philippines could piece together a type 2.5 slip to design cruisers of longer than 557 feet while still leaving the Type 3s open for other construction.

Regarding the ship design itself, I'm not sure I see the benefit of building such an unbalanced ship. True, the 18.1" guns can punch through loads of stuff, but at almost any range those guns can *hit*, any 8-inch gunned cruiser can shoot back and penetrate your armour. The rate of fire for an 8" gun is three to four times as quick, too, meaning more chances of hitting, more shells to permit fall-spotting, and so on. Against a battleship, there's no range she can't be impaled by a 14" shell, and you don't have the speed to hang off at range and let those eighteen-inchers do their best work, nor the armour to resist getting shot at.

I won't say 'it won't work' though - because it will, particularly in the Philippine labyrinth. I just think another more balanced design will work a lot better. If it were me, I'd stick with the 320mm guns, make 2x2 turrets, and see about an 18-knot hull with a heavier deck armour - say 4-5", to try to shrug off some of the hits you're going to take. That might result in an even larger ship, though.

If I were planning how to defeat this ship, I would build more aircraft carriers and just send planes to hunt it down. She's too slow to avoid trouble, too thin-skinned to stop a dibo, and lacks a good AA suite to start with. At best, you're looking to take out more planes when her magazines go up!

This remains one of my favorite CDS vessels. It's a brutishly big CDS, almost more of a second-class battleship, and I like it. The South African coast defense ships, particularly the Gungnir, are also very solid CDS vessels, too.

I'm a bit puzzled by the ship as well: monitors strike me as vessels to use in support of ground troops, when you control the sea around them so the monitors aren't quickly run down by hostile cruisers/destroyers and sunk. But does the Phillipines need such a specialized vessel, especially as it keeps growing?

If gunfire support is the assigned goal, there are already numerous small, well-armed, better-protected, and generally all around superior vessels in the Philippine Navy which can take on that role. Marinduque, the Dagupans, even Jomalig.

But I think the goal of this ship isn't to actually do anything - it's a Prestige Ship:

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"Haha! MY coast defense ships have 18" guns while YOUR sucky coast defense ships have only 12" guns! [SIZE=1]Never mind that your ships are better,[/SIZE] BECAUSE I HAVE THE BIGGEST, MWAHAHAHA!"

Well, I need to build something with Big Honkin' Guns.

The secondary idea here is fire support of amphibious landings, actually. If these ships get into a tangle with enemy ships, something has gone dreadfully wrong.

Of course, considering who the new El Presidente is, 'bigger is better' will be the order of the day...

*Hides plans for the Mexican 21" gunned Aki...*

Eighteen inchers? Baaah...

I think there maybe a confusion between Monitor and Coastal Defence Ship here.

As a CDS it is flawed but those guns need to be taken into account. Chances of scoring a hit are slim but even a CA captain will wince before closing in. Should Japan supply radar RF equipment those guns could be used from much further out and with better accuracy.

As a monitor to support the Army or to bombard enemy positions or territory (I'm thinking QE at Galipoli) those guns would put Kaboomicus Maximus out of range to any counter-fire from land. Put a CAP of fighters over her and its not so easy to disable her without tying up resources and effort.