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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 8:03pm

Nordmark Q3/1937

A) Industry

21 factories (non fixed) producing 21000tons of ship materials. Plus stockpile of 12115tons. 4464tons received from Germany. 500tons from Chile for 1922 Class Destroyers.
2 factories (fixed) producing 0.2IP for Q2/1937


B) Infrastructure Development
Trondheim Type 1 Dock #1 extending to type 1 Dock #2, 0.1IP needed, 0.1IP added. Completed
Lievsborg Type 3 Dock #1 started, 3IP needed, 0.1IP added.

C) Ship Construction

Karlskrona
Type 4 Slip #1: X37 Class CV, X37-1 building, 16000t needed, 2000t added.
Type 3 Dock #1: Gåssen Class CV, Gåssen continuing reconstruction, 4000t needed, 2000t added.
Type 3 Dock #2: idle
Type 3 Slip #1: Falun Class CA, Falun building, 11000t needed, 2000t added. Launched
Type 3 Slip #2: Victoriahamn Class CL, Victoriahamn building, 6000t needed, 1000t added. Launched
Type 1 Dock #1: idle
Type 1 Dock #2: idle
Type 1 Slip #1: DD37, 37-1 laid down, 1619t needed, 619t added. Launched.
Type 1 Slip #2: DD37, 37-2 laid down, 1619t needed, 619t added. Launched.
Type 0 Slip #1: idle
Type 0 Slip #2: idle


Free Floating:
German CV Peter Strasser building, 4467t needed, 2232t added.
MS35, MS35-9 building, 230t needed, 230t added. Completed.
MS35, MS35-10 building, 230t needed, 230t added. Completed.
MS35, MS35-11 building, 230t needed, 230t added. Completed.
MS35, MS35-12 building, 230t needed, 230t added. Completed.


Helsingfors Örlovsvarv
Type 3 Slip #1: idle
Type 1 Dock #1: idle
Type 1 Slip #1: DD37, 37-3 laid down, 1619t needed, 619t added. Launched.
Type 1 Slip #2: DD37, 37-4 laid down, 1619t needed, 619t added. Launched.
Type 0 Slip #1: idle

Free Floating:


Gustavsvern Naval Base, Trondheim
Type 4 Dock #1: Oden Class BB, Gustav V starting 25% refit, 10188t needed, 2188t added.
Type 4 Slip #1: idle
Type 3 Dock #1: idle
Type 3 Slip #1: Victoriahamn Class CL, Göta building, building, 6000t needed, 1000t added. Launched
Type 1 Dock #1: idle
Type 1 Slip #1: DD37, 37-5 laid down, 1619t needed, 619t added. Launched.
Type 1 Slip #2: DD37, 37-6 laid down, 1619t needed, 619t added. Launched.
Type 0 Dock #1: extending
Type 0 Dock #2: idle
Type 0 Slip #1: idle
Type 0 Slip #2: idle



Free Floating:
BB33-B, Suomen Leijona building, 2000tons needed, 2000tons added. Completed
German CV Graf Zeppelin building, 8931t needed, 2232t added.


Karljohansvern Naval Base, Horten outside Oslo
Type 3 Slip #1: idle
Type 1 Slip #1: idle

46 Land Craft Personel building @ 8t each, total 368t

Freefloating:

Oscarsvern Naval Base, Leivsborg
Type 4 Dock #1: Dristigheten Class BC, Manligheten continuing reconstruction, 13000t needed, 2000t added.
Type 4 Slip #1: Victoriahamn Class CL, Arjeplog building, 8000t needed, 2000t added.
Type 3 Slip #1: Victoriahamn Class CL, Borlänge building, 8000t needed, 2000t added.
Type 1 Dock #1: idle
Type 1 Slip #1: DD37, 37-7 laid down, 1619t needed, 619t added. Launched.
Type 1 Slip #2: DD37, 37-8 laid down, 1619t needed, 619t added. Launched.
Type 0 Slip #1: idle
Type 0 Slip #2: idle

Free Floating:
BB33-C, Eric den Helige building, 4000tons needed, 2000tons added.


Iceland Naval Station
Type 1 Dock #1: idle
Type 1 Slip #1: idle
Type 0 Slip #1: idle

Free Floating:

Faeroes Naval Station
Type 0 Dock #1: idle

Åland Naval Base
Type 3 Dock #1: idle
Type 1 Dock #1: idle
Type 0 Dock #1: idle

South Georgia Naval Base
Type 0 Dock #1: idle

D) Transactions

E) Other Notes

BB Oden on trials
BB Oscar II on trials
T31-25 to 32 on trials
BB Suomen Leijona starting trials
MS35-9 to 12 starting trials

F) Updated Order of Battle, 1/7/37

Note: X(Y) +Z = completed/in service (under repair/refit/rebuild) + under construction.

BB: 3(1)2
BC: 3(1)0
CV: 3(1)1
CA: 4(0)1
CL: 35(0)4
DD: 90(0)8
Motor Torpedo Boats: 120(0)0
Torpedo boats: 32(0)0
Subs type (a): 18(0)0
Subs type (b): 16(0)0
Sloops/Frigates: 140(0)4
CDBB: 4(0)0
Auxiliaries 16(0)0
Landing Craft 96(0)46
Target ships 1(0)0

New stockpile of 7187tons

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Thursday, July 23rd 2009, 9:25am

I may have missed it but where do yi find the stats for that Victoriahamn Class CL?

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Thursday, July 23rd 2009, 11:34pm

They were posted once before, long ago, but in case I am talking nonsence, here they are again:-

Victoriahamn Class, Nordmark Light Cruiser laid down 1937

Displacement:
9,150 t light; 9,603 t standard; 11,557 t normal; 13,120 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
622.65 ft / 608.00 ft x 64.00 ft x 19.80 ft (normal load)
189.78 m / 185.32 m x 19.51 m x 6.04 m

Armament:
12 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns (4x3 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1937 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (2x2 guns), 42.00lbs / 19.05kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
8 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (4x2 guns), 42.00lbs / 19.05kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, evenly spread
24 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.65lbs / 0.75kg shells, 1937 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (12x2 guns), 0.27lbs / 0.12kg shells, 1937 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,846 lbs / 837 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 430.00 ft / 131.06 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.50" / 114 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 3.00" / 76 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.50" / 38 mm
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.50" / 38 mm
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 80,835 shp / 60,303 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 5,209nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,518 tons

Complement:
556 - 724

Cost:
£4.467 million / $17.868 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 220 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 2,191 tons, 19.0 %
- Belts: 710 tons, 6.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 415 tons, 3.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1,021 tons, 8.8 %
- Conning Tower: 44 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,240 tons, 19.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,378 tons, 37.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,407 tons, 20.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
17,097 lbs / 7,755 Kg = 166.5 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.525
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.17 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.00 ft / 9.75 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 25.50 ft / 7.77 m (25.00 ft / 7.62 m aft of break)
- Mid (43 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m (15.00 ft / 4.57 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (10 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 19.79 ft / 6.03 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 137.4 %
Waterplane Area: 27,604 Square feet or 2,565 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 517 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.23
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Friday, July 24th 2009, 3:22am

I like it, a sort of Nordish "Cleavland" class.