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Tuesday, July 21st 2009, 11:22pm

RfP Fighters

The Persian Goverment is issuing an RfP for 40 fighters capable of at least 470 Km/h and armed with at least 2x12,7mm MG or comparable armament, Persia is primarily looking for second hand aircraft which can be delivered no later than December 31st 1937

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 12:24am

The US has plenty of P-36As that it would be happy to sell to Persia. The service P-36A carries the standard USAAC armament of 1 .50 and 1 .30 MG in the nose, but Curtiss foresees no difficulty in upgunning the aircraft to replace the .30 with a .50, and has done work on mounting up to 4 .30" MGs in the wings of the aircraft if desired.

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 12:34am

Then Persia is ordering 40 of the 2 x 0.50 armed P-36 for immediate delivery. Is performance much decayed with 2 x 0.50 and 4 x 0.30? And how soon can the second version be delivered?

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 12:37am

The SAE could offer F-3C Warhawks which have a top speed of 500km/h but "only" 6x 7,62mm guns.

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 12:43am

I would say that is comparable to 2 x .5, and these can meet the delivery date?

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 3:35am

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Then Persia is ordering 40 of the 2 x 0.50 armed P-36 for immediate delivery. Is performance much decayed with 2 x 0.50 and 4 x 0.30? And how soon can the second version be delivered?


The Finns historically used this sort of armament on their Hawks, apparently the armament upgrade had little effect on the plane's flight characteristics. If Persia wants the XP-36D configuration, Curtiss can convert 40 P-36As over in 6 months or so.

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 10:40am

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I would say that is comparable to 2 x .5, and these can meet the delivery date?


Easily. They are available immediately.

Do you also need a handful of trainers? From the F-3A Buzzard some were modified to get two seaters by removing the fuselage fuel tank and installing a second seat. This variant is called F-3B.

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 11:03am

Initially I thoght to create an Air gendarmerie to lessen the burden on the Airforce but with with this many aircraft available an Auxiliary Air Force might be plausible, so I am interested in both trainers and bombers that can be delivered at the above mentioned date

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 11:51am

If your budget covers 40 planes only I propose to take 36 F-3C Warhawks for 3 small squadrons of 12 AC each plus four double seaters F-3B.

Also available are F-6B Swallow fighters which offer even more potential but are more expensive. You´d need to double up your budget to get 40 of these. For this early F-6 version a trainer also exists, the F-6C. She is an armed trainer with two cockpits based on the B-version, originally build from a F-6B fuselage and engine, later purpose build featuring a more powerful engine LMF1200 IX of 1050hp instead of LMF1200 II of 920hp as in the F-6B.

What kind of bombers are you looking for?

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 12:24pm

The Warhawks will work nicely no need to get overcomplicated aircraft for weekend warriors, so 36 F-3C and 6 F-3B ordered. An separate RfP for bombers will be issued

And the earlier P-36 order stands

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 1:11pm

Okay.

Guess you´ll set up a story line / news bit?

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 1:12pm

Storyline... I was just thinking of a news notice...

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Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 1:15pm

Fine with me.

Those planes will be used ones, of course, that are left overs when the RSAF introduced the more modern F-6 series. Some of them might even have seen combat in South America but it is more likely they are from second line units in Cameroon or South Africa. Use what you need for your news bit.