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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 3:44am

HMS Monster



And yes I have stolen parts from ALVAMA....

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 8:32am

The backbone of the Mexican Fleet some 30 years in the future...



And after a mid life refit...


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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 10:49am

Quoted

Originally posted by Marek Gutkowski
PZL Mi-2? Interesting choice.


Yeap!!!

Funny boat Vuk!! :D :D Lookin really good!

Can't wait to see the Knox in WW soon!

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 5:18pm

1973-77

After received a batch of ''Riga-class'' frigates transferred by the Soviet Union. The Zhonghua navy started to develop there own build version of it. Various tests were done. an in the last 70ties, they strated to build ships on own design the result was the ''Luda-class''.
Build betwin 1974 and late 1977. in total there were 19 ships. 9 of them were rebuild with hangar in 1983, 7 keep orign. After got blueprints on the SAM Kotlin from the USSR and Poland, the other three were finist as SAM missile- carring ships, and called under sub-class ''SAM LUDA'' or batch 2. after 1989 they were fitted with helipad and got AK-630 added. They were sold in 1994 to North Korea, and served until 2007.



General states

Type: Frigate
Country: Zhonghua union
Build 1974-1977
Dimensions: 123.6 x 115.7 x 12.7 x 4.42 metre/
Armement:

(b1) 1x100mm gun, 6x37mm, 2x12barreled ASW RBU launchers.
1x8cell ASROC launcher. 1x2arm SAM launcher. mid-range. 2x3TT 533mm, helipad for 1 helicopter



(b1 Mod) 1x100mm gun, 6x37mm, 2x12barreled ASW RBU launchers. 2x ASW helicopter
1x8cell ASROC launcher.



(b2) 1x 4x45mm gun, 2x12barreled ASW RBU launchers. 4-sell SSM launcher. 1x2arm SAM launcher. DC-rails



(b2 Mod) 1x 4x45mm gun, 3x 30mm AK-630 gatlin 4-sell SSM launcher. 1x2arm Goa SAM launcher.Helipad: small radio- torpedocopter

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ALVAMA" (Mar 28th 2010, 5:57pm)


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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 7:53pm

Good looking ships, so when do they get some Kirovs?

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 8:08pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Vukovlad
Good looking ships, so when do they get some Kirovs?


Thank-you!

In fact never.... They will get a few large cruisers with missiles, but nothing much larger. 250 meters is the max.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ALVAMA" (Jun 30th 2010, 11:17am)


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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 8:17pm

Bah... Have they no pride? :D

I struck me that since Russia paid off some its foreign debt with arms wouldnt a Japanese or RoK Kirov be cool?

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 8:19pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Desertfox
The backbone of the Mexican Fleet some 30 years in the future...


Nice and what will be the flagship? A nice Tico or Alaska?

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Vukovlad" (Mar 28th 2010, 8:19pm)


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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 8:27pm

pfff Kirow in no flagship Ulianowsk now thats a flagship.
Or a Nimitz with ever one may prefer...:D

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 8:49pm

whaff US ships...!?!?! Go away! Ugly stuff! :P :P

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 8:56pm

Quoted

Nice and what will be the flagship? A nice Tico or Alaska?

A 70 year old updated Villa ... :P

No Ticos or Alaskas, but definately some Kidds, Spruances, and TDCs...

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 9:00pm

Quoted

Originally posted by ALVAMA
whaff US ships...!?!?! Go away! Ugly stuff! :P :P

I agree, unfortunately most navies of today also go for the"boat with boxes for superstructure"
Japanese ships had a nice look to them now they started looking like US Navy but uglier.

Future Polish ships will be most likely indigenous hulls with Russian German mix of systems and weapons.

A Kashin Mod with Kormoran instead of Styx.
Now that the Idea of that entered my mind I have to draw it.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Marek Gutkowski" (Mar 28th 2010, 9:03pm)


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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 9:06pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Marek Gutkowski

Quoted

Originally posted by ALVAMA
whaff US ships...!?!?! Go away! Ugly stuff! :P :P

I agree, unfortunately most navies of today also go for the"boat with boxes for superstructure"
Japanese ships had a nice look to them now they started looking like US Navy but uglier.

Dittoed.

1950s/1960s Chile will probably build something similar in appearance to the French Suffren or the Dutch Tromp. The big light-bulb like radome just looks cool, in a hilarious way. :P

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 9:09pm

[SIZE=3]Brock you're my Hero[/SIZE]

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 9:13pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Marek Gutkowski

Quoted

Originally posted by ALVAMA
whaff US ships...!?!?! Go away! Ugly stuff! :P :P

I agree, unfortunately most navies of today also go for the"boat with boxes for superstructure"
Japanese ships had a nice look to them now they started looking like US Navy but uglier.

Future Polish ships will be most likely indigenous hulls with Russian German mix of systems and weapons.

A Kashin Mod with Kormoran instead of Styx.
Now that the Idea of that entered my mind I have to draw it.



agreed!! Did the Polish not build at the moment German corvettes with Dutch sensors at Gdansk?

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Sunday, March 28th 2010, 11:10pm

Quoted

Originally posted by ALVAMA
agreed!! Did the Polish not build at the moment German corvettes with Dutch sensors at Gdansk?

Apparently they do.

Actually I don't know and do not care.
I stopped carrying a long time a go, about the time when Perry class became the flag ships. I don't care how capable they are. Perry is too ugly and common, to be a flagship.
Its like driving a pope in a VW Golf.

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Monday, March 29th 2010, 12:18am

Slightly more serious than the HMS Monster, The DFB FK-103 of Fernkampfgruppe "Peter von Danzig"


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Monday, March 29th 2010, 1:13am

Looks kinda stubby for 4 engines. A twin engined version would look better mefinks.

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Monday, March 29th 2010, 1:54am

And a twin


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Monday, March 29th 2010, 8:13pm

Can't help, but looks a little bit like a He-111 or am i wrong ??