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[Players note: We haven´t set a date until now. All we know is that we are in the year 1920 and the treaty will start on 1-1-21. I thus choosed a date. Feb 28/03 will be Sep 28/20 if you agree.]

THE SOUTH AFRICAN TELEGRAPH
28th September 1920

Durban. Today a delegation of the Indian Navy arrived at Durban. As our reporter Nick Quick stated, the group consists of many engineers and technicians. Officials of the RSAN told him, that this is the first step to fulfill our part of the recently signed South African Indian Naval Treaty (SAINT). More men will arrive within the next two weeks. During the next few months these Indians will be trained on board the battleship RSAN QUEEN FALLATIA (for technical data see appendix below) which is sold to the Indian Navy. They will form the ships first indian crew.

"The newly signed treaty will be the first step towards building up India´s naval infrastructure." South Africa´s Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Hijmer, is quoted. He continued "When the new crew has learned everything about their new ship and thus is ready to sail their ship home, most likely in February, we will use this chance for the first combined Indian-South African fleet manouvers. The battleship will be part of a force to escort some transports to India. These transports will be under way to Indian anyway, carrying a staff of naval architects to support the Indian Navy as well as some aeronautic engineers. The latter will establish a floatplane base at Alleppey and prepare the grounds near the capital city of Hyderabad where we are allowed to build an aerodrom due to the treaty."

Cape Town. The delegations of the South African Railways and the Nederlandse Kongo Spoorwegen met in Cape Town today where the Transafrican Railway, maybe the most expensive project planned on the continent so far, will start one day. Officials of the Department of Transport and Traffic told The South African Telegraph the complexity of the whole plan. It is planned to build several parts of the network simultaniously, otherwise it would need decades to build all the lines and side-lines. Therefor it is necessary to gather enough technical personal, especially railway engineers and specialists like technical applicants, from both the Netherlands and the South African Empire to form a staff that can handle all the work. Some of these men will be shipped from the Netherlands to Kongo and enough bureaus and houses have to be prepared for several hundred persons. So far there are not enough common workers of all types, too. "So many work to do, so few people so far." an exhausted secretary was quoted, "But it is maybe the most important project ever, allowing Africa to grow together in peace. We´re all very proud to be part of it." she finally smiled.

Appendix.

[Players note: the penetration tables for the guns are calculated against WW2-type armor. The penetration power of the guns is 15-20% better against WW1-type armor (used until ~1925).]




The Ship.

Queen Fallatia, laid down 1905, sold to India 1920

Length, 152.0 m x Beam, 24.0 m x Depth, 8.5 m
18758 tonnes normal displacement (17389 tonnes standard)

Main battery: 8 x 28.0-cm (4 x 2; 2 superfiring)
Secondary battery: 16 x 15.0-cm
QF battery: 10 x 8.8-cm
AA battery: 6 x 8.8-cm

Weight of broadside: 3279 kg

Main belt, 30.0 cm; bow and stern, 15.0 cm
Upper belt, 17.0 cm
Torpedo bulkhead, 3.5 cm
Armor deck, average 4.0 cm
Conning tower, 30.0 cm

Battery armor:
Main, 27.0 cm / secondary, 15.0 cm


Maximum speed for 21018 shaft kw = 21.15 knots
Approximate cruising radius, 5900 nm / 10 knots

Typical complement: 801-1042


Estimated cost, $6.642 million (£1.661 million)

Remarks:

Relative extent of belt armor, 105 percent of 'typical' coverage.

Good seaboat; rides out heavy weather easily.

Main deck secondary guns subject to being washed down
in a seaway.


Distribution of weights:
Percent
normal
displacement:

Armament ......................... 902 tonnes = 5 pct
Armor, total ..................... 6631 tonnes = 35 pct

Belt 3067 tonnes = 16 pct
Torpedo bulkhead 461 tonnes = 2 pct
Deck 812 tonnes = 4 pct
C.T. 180 tonnes = 1 pct
Armament 2111 tonnes = 11 pct

Machinery ........................ 2347 tonnes = 13 pct
Hull and fittings; equipment ..... 6534 tonnes = 35 pct
Fuel, ammunition, stores ......... 2345 tonnes = 13 pct
Miscellaneous weights ............ 0 tonnes = 0 pct
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18758 tonnes = 100 pct

Estimated metacentric height, 1.1 m

Displacement summary:

Light ship: 16413 tonnes
Standard displacement: 17389 tonnes
Normal service: 18758 tonnes
Full load: 19777 tonnes

Loading submergence 2612 tonnes/metre

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Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Relative margin of stability: 1.02

Shellfire needed to sink: 6760 kg = 22.2 x 28.0-cm shells
(Approximates weight of penetrating
shell hits needed to sink ship,
not counting critical hits)

Torpedoes needed to sink: 2.3
(Approximates number of 'typical'
torpedo hits needed to sink ship)

Relative steadiness as gun platform, 60 percent
(50 percent is 'average')

Relative rocking effect from firing to beam, 0.64

Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.21

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Hull form characteristics:

Block coefficient: 0.60
Sharpness coefficient: 0.42
Hull speed coefficient 'M' = 5.74
'Natural speed' for length = 22.3 knots
Power going to wave formation
at top speed: 49 percent


Estimated hull characteristics and strength:

Relative underwater volume absorbed by
magazines and engineering spaces: 105 percent

Relative accommodation and working space: 114 percent


Displacement factor: 102 percent
(Displacement relative to loading factors)


Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 1.00
(Structure weight per square
metre of hull surface: 778 kg)

Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.66
(for 5.24 m average freeboard)

Relative composite hull strength: 1.05


The Main Guns.

28cm L/45 on Queen-class, constructed 1904

Max. elevation of twin mounts C/04 = 25°

Caliber = 28.0 cm (11.0 inch)
Shell weight = 300 kg (661 lbs)
Muzzle velocity = 826 m/s (2709 fps)

Relative ballistic performance: 0.80

Muzzle energy = 102.3 megajoules = 37712.8 foot-tons

Relative muzzle energy: 0.88

Typical barrel length: 45 calibers


Elevation Range Time Velocity Fall Angle

2.5 deg 5100 meters 7.1 sec 637 m/s 3.0 deg
5.0 deg 8800 meters 13.5 sec 532 m/s 6.7 deg
7.5 deg 11700 meters 19.5 sec 465 m/s 11.0 deg
10.0 deg 14200 meters 25.2 sec 421 m/s 15.6 deg
12.5 deg 16200 meters 30.5 sec 392 m/s 20.2 deg
15.0 deg 18000 meters 35.7 sec 373 m/s 24.9 deg
20.0 deg 21000 meters 45.4 sec 355 m/s 33.6 deg
25.0 deg 23400 meters 54.6 sec 352 m/s 41.3 deg
30.0 deg 25300 meters 63.2 sec 357 m/s 47.6 deg
35.0 deg 26700 meters 71.5 sec 367 m/s 53.0 deg
40.0 deg 27600 meters 79.4 sec 379 m/s 57.5 deg
45.0 deg 28000 meters 86.9 sec 392 m/s 61.3 deg
50.0 deg 27700 meters 93.8 sec 404 m/s 64.7 deg


Armor Penetration - Vertical Belt Armor

(Relative armor quality, 1.00)

Maximum penetration: 52.40 cm


Elevation Range Belt Deck

1.9 deg 4000 meters 40 cm
3.0 deg 5900 meters 35 cm
4.3 deg 7900 meters ... 2 cm
4.5 deg 8200 meters 30 cm
6.8 deg 11000 meters 25 cm
8.8 deg 13100 meters ... 4 cm
10.3 deg 14400 meters 20 cm
15.7 deg 18500 meters ... 6 cm
16.6 deg 19000 meters 15 cm
20.7 deg 21300 meters ... 8 cm
26.1 deg 23800 meters ... 10 cm
30.5 deg 25400 meters 10 cm
31.7 deg 25800 meters ... 12 cm
37.6 deg 27200 meters ... 14 cm
44.2 deg 28000 meters ... 16 cm


Maximum range = 28000 meters at 45.6 deg elevation


The Secondary Guns.

15cm L/42 on many classes, constructed 1900

Max. elevation of single casemats mounts C/02c = 20°

Caliber = 15.0 cm (5.9 inch)
Shell weight = 45 kg (99 lbs)
Muzzle velocity = 794 m/s (2604 fps)

Relative ballistic performance: 0.90

Muzzle energy = 14.183 megajoules = 5226.4 foot-tons

Relative muzzle energy: 0.79

Barrel length: 42 calibers


Elevation Range Time Velocity Fall Angle

2.5 deg 4300 meters 6.6 sec 547 m/s 3.2 deg
5.0 deg 7100 meters 12.5 sec 431 m/s 7.6 deg
7.5 deg 9200 meters 17.8 sec 368 m/s 12.5 deg
10.0 deg 10800 meters 22.7 sec 329 m/s 17.7 deg
12.5 deg 12200 meters 27.3 sec 304 m/s 23.0 deg
15.0 deg 13300 meters 31.7 sec 289 m/s 28.3 deg
20.0 deg 15200 meters 39.9 sec 275 m/s 37.9 deg
25.0 deg 16600 meters 47.6 sec 274 m/s 46.1 deg
30.0 deg 17600 meters 54.8 sec 279 m/s 52.7 deg
35.0 deg 18400 meters 61.7 sec 288 m/s 58.1 deg
40.0 deg 18800 meters 68.2 sec 297 m/s 62.5 deg
45.0 deg 18800 meters 74.3 sec 306 m/s 66.1 deg
50.0 deg 18500 meters 80.0 sec 315 m/s 69.2 deg


Armor Penetration - Vertical Belt Armor

(Relative armor quality, 1.00)

Maximum penetration: 26.19 cm


Elevation Range Belt Deck

1.2 deg 2300 meters 20 cm
2.9 deg 4800 meters 15 cm
6.4 deg 8400 meters 10 cm
11.0 deg 11400 meters ... 2 cm
18.1 deg 14500 meters 5 cm
24.4 deg 16400 meters ... 4 cm
40.0 deg 18800 meters ... 6 cm



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THE NAVALIST
- South Africans Official Navy Newspaper -
3rd October 1920

COMMISSION OF NEW RSAN CRUISER

Today our navy´s newest cruiser, RSAN Brazzaville, reached completion at the Royal Navyyards in Durban. The ship, second of a class of four, and its new crew will now prepare for their maiden voyage which is planned to start at the 10th of October, as we were told. The first cruise of the ship, starting a planned period of 6 month for shakedown and trials, will be the first step to integrate the newly build ship into our famous fleet. Nothing extraordinary is expected due to the very good experience with RSAN Brazzavilles older sister.

"We hope to finish shakedown within the first two weeks in April next year." Captain Anthony Vastfoorvard, the ships captain, said. "This is the most modern cruiser, most likely the best cruiser ever build for the RSAN, and I´m very proud - if not to say I feel very honoured - to command this masterpiece of south african craftsmanship."

Some technical details about the class have been made available when the first unit, RSAN Yaoundé, was commissioned. It is not known if there is much difference between this and the latest vessel but observers stated, that the new ship looks much like a twin to her earlier sister.
The stats made available for RSAN Yaoundé are given below.
[Players note: You will get a full set of the stats when the ship is taken into full service.]

RSAN Yaoundé, laid down 1919

Length, 145.0 m x Beam, 14.5 m x Depth, 5.8 m
5656 tonnes normal displacement (5161 tonnes standard)

Main battery: 10 x 15.0-cm
Secondary battery: 8 x 8.8-cm

Maximum speed for xxxxx shaft kw = 29+ knots
Approximate cruising radius, 11000+ nm / 10 knots

Typical complement: 326-424

Estimated cost, $4.643 million (£1.161 million)

Displacement summary:

Light ship: 4949 tonnes
Standard displacement: 5161 tonnes
Normal service: 5656 tonnes
Full load: 6028 tonnes

Loading submergence 1260 tonnes/metre

Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 1.05
(Structure weight per square
metre of hull surface: 463 kg)

Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.81
(for 5.00 m average freeboard;
freeboard adjustment +0.88 m)

Relative composite hull strength: 1.11

The guns used on this class of cruisers are the same as on most earlier designs. The technical data is well known, many of them sold to equipe freighters during the Great War, and thus can be presented.
[Players Note: The penetration tables are calculated against WW2-type armor. The power of the gun is somewhat (~15%) better against WW1-type armor.]

15cm L/45 on many classes, constructed 1910

Max. elevation of single mounts C/12 = 30°

Caliber = 15.0 cm (5.9 inch)
Shell weight = 45 kg (99 lbs)
Muzzle velocity = 835 m/s (2739 fps)

Relative ballistic performance: 0.90

Muzzle energy = 15.688 megajoules = 5780.9 foot-tons

Relative muzzle energy: 0.88

Typical barrel length: 45 calibers


Elevation Range Time Velocity Fall Angle

2.5 deg 4700 meters 6.9 sec 558 m/s 3.3 deg
5.0 deg 7600 meters 13.0 sec 435 m/s 7.8 deg
7.5 deg 9800 meters 18.4 sec 370 m/s 12.7 deg
10.0 deg 11500 meters 23.5 sec 329 m/s 18.2 deg
12.5 deg 12800 meters 28.2 sec 305 m/s 23.7 deg
15.0 deg 14000 meters 32.7 sec 290 m/s 29.0 deg
20.0 deg 15900 meters 41.1 sec 277 m/s 38.7 deg
25.0 deg 17400 meters 49.0 sec 277 m/s 46.9 deg
30.0 deg 18500 meters 56.4 sec 283 m/s 53.4 deg
35.0 deg 19300 meters 63.5 sec 292 m/s 58.7 deg
40.0 deg 19700 meters 70.2 sec 301 m/s 63.0 deg
45.0 deg 19800 meters 76.5 sec 311 m/s 66.5 deg
50.0 deg 19400 meters 82.4 sec 320 m/s 69.6 deg


Armor Penetration - Vertical Belt Armor

(Relative armor quality, 1.00)

Maximum penetration: 28.01 cm


Elevation Range Belt Deck

1.4 deg 2900 meters 20 cm
3.0 deg 5400 meters 15 cm
6.5 deg 9000 meters 10 cm
10.5 deg 11700 meters ... 2 cm
18.0 deg 15200 meters 5 cm
23.6 deg 17000 meters ... 4 cm
38.6 deg 19600 meters ... 6 cm


Maximum range = 19800 meters at 43.4 deg elevation


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START OF TRANSMISSION ***** 6TH OF OCTOBER ***** NEW BATTLECRUISER LAID DOWN IN SOUTH AFRICA ***** SECOND SHIP OF A CLASS OF TWO ***** COMPLETION EXPECTED SEPTEMBER 1924 ***** SIZE APPROX. 38,000 TONS ***** EIGHT 38CM GUNS ***** 6TH OF OCTOBER ***** NEW BATTLECRUISER LAID DOWN IN SOUTH AFRICA ***** SECOND SHIP OF A CLASS OF TWO ***** COMPLETION EXPECTED SEPTEMBER 1924 ***** SIZE APPROX. 38,000 TONS ***** EIGHT 38CM GUNS ***** 6TH OF OCTOBER ***** NEW BATTLECRUISER LAID DOWN IN SOUTH AFRICA ***** SECOND SHIP OF A CLASS OF TWO ***** COMPLETION EXPECTED SEPTEMBER 1924 ***** SIZE APPROX. 38,000 TONS ***** EIGHT 38CM GUNS ***** END OF TRANSMISSION


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THE NAVALIST
- South Africans Official Navy Newspaper -
4th November 1920

NEW RSAN TENDER BROUGHT TO ITS ELEMENT

In Montevideo the RSANs latest Bay-class tender was launched from 70m slip No.10 today. With the yards workers as well as many other people standing at the quays, a surprising large crowd was there when Mrs. Aaron-Ward, descendant of Captain Aaron who became famous for his bravery in the Battle of Corisco Bay some 50 years ago, named the ship RSAN CORISCO BAY.
The ship will now be towed to another basin where outfitting will take place. It is expected that another six month are necessary before the ship will be commissioned. So far it is not known what the ship will be used for once finished. Due to the treaty currently prepared in the City of Cleito on Atlantis, the structure of the RSAN will most likely be altered in some ways. Most likely the ship will then be used for a submarine flotilla, maybe in exchange for one of the older tenders which needs to be upgraded to the latest fleet standards.


Though I am not sure, I believe that's all of them

Walter

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Together with the one posted by aowwt, yes. That´s all - maybe with the exception of the Battle of Corisco Bay and so many other storyline stuff once posted on the Design Board.

And of course, all pics are missing. That of Queen Fallatia as well as those in Pengolodhs news.

Is it possible to post pics here? Same as on the Design Board?

aowwt
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(4/14/03 6:02:55 pm)
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I tired to post the pic of the queen fatilia, spelling is not my forta, and ezboard didnt except the code or something. I just left it alone. I didnt want to mess with it anymore. Anyhow the history of the countries might be interesting enough to make a new forum since i rather see this forum for all of the news for the current sim. if you guys want to post your history as well i wont stop you but i think a new forum might be best though.
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