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Anyone willing to help construct a Cavalry brigade TOE, purely horse mounted

If you look at the US 1926 Horse Cavalry TO&E here http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?threadid=5809&sid=, you'l find a start. It only goes to regiment, not to brigade, but a cavalry brigade wouldn't be much more than 2 regiments plus perhaps a few supporting units (a little bit of horse artillery, maybe some machineguns).

I think I´ll just copy it and add a 36 gun art regiement

Cavalry Platoon - (35 men, 1 officer)
3 squads - 10 men
Command - 1 CO, 1 NCO, 4 men

Cavalry Company - (112 men, 6 officers)
3 platoons (35 men, 1 officer)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 1 NCO, 6 men)

Cavalry Squadron - (348 men, 22 officers)
3 Cavalry Companies (112 men, 6 officers)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 2 Staff, 12 men)

Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
3 Sections (16 men, 2 77mm M/15*)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 20 men)

Cavalry MG Company (99 men, 5 officers)
2 MG Platoons (30 men, 1 officer, 6 ZB-30P)
HMG Platoon (27 men, 1 officer, 3 0.50" HMGs)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 12 men)

Cavalry Lt AA Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
3 Sections (16 men, 4 20mm Madsen)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 20 men)


Cavalry Regiment (1875 men, 113 officers)
4 Cavalry Squadron - (348 men, 22 officers)
1 Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
1 Cavalry MG Company (99 men, 5 officers)
1 Support Company (180 men, 6 officers)
1 Signals Company (88 men, 4 officers)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 6 staff, 48 men)

Cavalry Artillery Regiment (300 men, 18 officers)
6 Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
1 Cavalry Lt AA Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
Command ( 28 men,4 officers)

Cavalry brigade (4050 men, 244 officers)
2 Cavalry regiments
1 Artillery regiment

*Skoda 8cm(76,5mm) Vz.30

So comments?

It feels artillery-heavy. Cavalry units have to be careful about artillery, as it makes them less mobile and slower, when their role is probably to be quick, mobile, scouting units instead of main-line combat units. Some artillery is useful, 8 batteries might be too many. Given that you have a brigade, I'd think about removing the gun battery from the cavalry regiments, replacing it with the MG company that you've dropped, and then shrinking the number of gun batteries in the artillery regiment to 4 or so.

Perhaps replace the Regiment guns with AT guns or mortars? The MG coy is still there.

Does any WW country produce 120mm Mtr?

AT rifles would make some sense, MAYBE some lightweight AT guns if you're operating where there are likely to be tanks.

The MG company is still listed, but it doesn't appear in any higher unit TO&E.

120mm mortars...... the Russians, maybe. Historically, Skoda was working on a 120mm mortar, the B9, before WWII but work never completed on it. Germany is looking at perhaps replacing it's 105mm smoke mortars with something in the 120mm range, but it's just an idea at this point, no RFP has gone out to industry.

Heh, sloppy cut and paste by me also excluding support and signals coy and yet retaining the same total manpower

You'll probably want a headquarters of some sort at brigade as well, perhaps a few other units. You might want to move the support and signals units to brigade as well, or add some support and signals units to the artillery unit.

Cavalry Platoon - (35 men, 1 officer)
3 squads - 10 men
Command - 1 CO, 1 NCO, 4 men

Cavalry Company - (112 men, 6 officers)
3 platoons (35 men, 1 officer)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 1 NCO, 6 men)

Cavalry Squadron - (348 men, 22 officers)
3 Cavalry Companies (112 men, 6 officers)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 2 Staff, 12 men)

Cavalry Mortar Company (102 men, 5 officers)
3 Mortar Platoons (30 men, 1 officer, 4 81mm Mtr)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 12 men)

Cavalry MG Company (99 men, 5 officers)
2 MG Platoons (30 men, 1 officer, 6 ZB 53)
HMG Platoon (27 men, 1 officer, 3 0.50" HMGs)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 12 men)

Cavalry Lt AA Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
3 Sections (16 men, 4 20mm Madsen)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 20 men)


Cavalry Regiment (1878 men, 113 officers)
4 Cavalry Squadron - (348 men, 22 officers)
1 Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
1 Cavalry MG Company (99 men, 5 officers)
1 Support Company (180 men, 6 officers)
1 Signals Company (88 men, 4 officers)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 6 staff, 48 men)

Cavalry Artillery Regiment (300 men, 18 officers)
6 Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
1 Cavalry Lt AA Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
Command ( 28 men,4 officers)

Cavalry brigade (4056 men, 244 officers)
2 Cavalry regiments
1 Artillery regiment

Any suggestions for the ToE of a Brigade support/HQ batallion?

Should probably mention that I plan four brigades that will constitute the Persian and Bactrian Army.

Will there be any problems buying .50 M2´s and GrW 34?

You've added a mortar company, but I don't see it referenced anywhere.


.50 M2s shouldn't be a problem. On the GrW34s, you're probably better off getting Indian 81mm mortars here, given the past diplomatic flare-ups between Persia and Turkey. Besides, the Indian weapon is slightly lighter and a little longer ranged.

Cavalry Platoon - (35 men, 1 officer)
3 squads - 10 men
Command - 1 CO, 1 NCO, 4 men

Cavalry Company - (112 men, 6 officers)
3 platoons (35 men, 1 officer)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 1 NCO, 6 men)

Cavalry Squadron - (348 men, 22 officers)
3 Cavalry Companies (112 men, 6 officers)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 2 Staff, 12 men)

Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
3 Sections (16 men, 2 77mm M/15*)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 20 men)

Cavalry Mortar Company (102 men, 5 officers)
3 Mortar Platoons (30 men, 1 officer, 4 US M1 81mm Mtr)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 12 men)

Cavalry MG Company (99 men, 5 officers)
2 MG Platoons (30 men, 1 officer, 6 ZB 53)
HMG Platoon (27 men, 1 officer, 3 M2HB 0.50" HMGs)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 12 men)

Cavalry Lt AA Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
3 Sections (16 men, 4 20mm Madsen)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 20 men)


Cavalry Regiment (1909 men, 116 officers)
4 Cavalry Squadron - (348 men, 22 officers)
1 Cavalry Mortar Company (102 men, 5 officers)
1 Cavalry MG Company (99 men, 5 officers)
1 Support Company (180 men, 6 officers)
1 Signals Company (88 men, 4 officers)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 6 staff, 48 men)

Cavalry Artillery Regiment (504 men, 18 officers)
6 Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
1 Cavalry Lt AA Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
Command ( 28 men,4 officers)

Cavalry brigade (4322 men, 250 officers)
2 Cavalry regiments
1 Artillery regiment

Revised

So no German equipment?

Cavalry Platoon - (35 men, 1 officer)
3 squads - 10 men
Command - 1 CO, 1 NCO, 4 men

Cavalry Company - (112 men, 6 officers)
3 platoons (35 men, 1 officer)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 1 NCO, 6 men)

Cavalry Squadron - (348 men, 22 officers)
3 Cavalry Companies (112 men, 6 officers)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 2 Staff, 12 men)

Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
3 Sections (16 men, 2 77mm M/15*)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 20 men)

Cavalry Mortar Company (102 men, 5 officers)
3 Mortar Platoons (30 men, 1 officer, 4 US M1 81mm Mtr)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 12 men)

Cavalry MG Company (99 men, 5 officers)
2 MG Platoons (30 men, 1 officer, 6 ZB 53)
HMG Platoon (27 men, 1 officer, 3 M2HB 0.50" HMGs)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 12 men)

Cavalry Lt AA Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
3 Sections (16 men, 4 20mm Madsen)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 20 men)


Cavalry Regiment (1909 men, 116 officers)
4 Cavalry Squadron - (348 men, 22 officers)
1 Cavalry Mortar Company (102 men, 5 officers)
1 Cavalry MG Company (99 men, 5 officers)
1 Support Company (180 men, 6 officers)
Command (1 CO, 1 XO, 6 staff, 48 men)

Cavalry Artillery Regiment (504 men, 18 officers)
6 Cavalry Gun Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
1 Cavalry Lt AA Battery (68 men, 2 officers)
Command ( 28 men,4 officers)

Cavalry brigade (4590 men, 305 officers)
2 Cavalry regiments
1 Artillery regiment
1 Support Company (180 men, 6 officers)
1 Signals Company (88 men, 4 officers)
1 Fieldhospital (68 men, 24 officers)
1 Military Police platoon (40 men, 5 officers)
Command (68 men, 24 officers)

Edited

Looks pretty good, though if you've got a signals company at brigade level, you can probably reduce or eliminate the signals companies at regimental level (the US cavalry had them because there are no US cavalry units larger than a regiment). Also, I'm not sure you need both the .50s and the Madsens, it might make sense logistically to have the light AA batteries equipped with .50s (perhaps the water-cooled version) as well.

Removing the signal coy in regiments is probably a good idea