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Saturday, February 21st 2009, 6:09pm

Various line ups.

Atlantis will send Colonel Fabris "Jester" Lavidicus flying the Spartan/FMA I-01-II Falcon and Lt. Colonel Tyrus "Bulldog" Hadrian in his Spartan SP-35 "Viper". Hadrian is well aquanted with his aircraft being one of the test pilots, hence his absence from last years talons.

From Byzantium, Captain Kenan Sunay flying a Spartan SP-20 "Corsair II" and Flight Lieutenant Nurettin Tural in his Spartan SP-34 "Cutlass".

From Turkey, the same line-up as last year, Yarbay (Lieutenant Colonel, squadron commander) Sabiha Gökçen flying a standard Heinkel He 112 and Yuzbasi (lieutenant) Vecihi Hürku, also from Turkey, is flying an identical Heinkel He 112 fighter.

Finally from Colombia, Major Henry Pillichody flying a Spartan SP-20A2 "Corsair II" and Teniente Delfín Torres Duran flying a Ripon-Bloch RB. 132 "Renegade" fighter.

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Saturday, February 21st 2009, 8:00pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Hood
Fuel additives are banned and for the record Hrolf asked if he could use MW-30 or MW-50 and I said no this year.


Question, I use the historic Hispano-suiza engines for many planes, historically they used 100octane, I seem to recall the first time I entered you wrote a piece about a fuel additive as a result. I just consider it my standard AvGas, does it count as a banned additive here?

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Sunday, February 22nd 2009, 2:12am

Dutch entries

Ok, still need pilots (edit nope got em)... but finished updating the planebuilders at least. Unfortunately the more powerful Jumo 211Fs aren't out...

Anyhow :

The Dutch entries are both twin engined machines. The G.1A is a jachtkruiser, what could later be called a fighter-bomber, while the D.XXIII is meant to be an interceptor.

The venerable D.XVIIbis biplane and the latest D version of the D.XIX fighter, both prior contestants, were deemed to be of less interest to the crowds.


G.1A.2


Flown by Capt. Jacob van Helsdingen and Flight Sergeant Soumokil. Despite entering service several years ago, the G.1 series has not yet been represented at Talons.

The G.1A.2 differs slightly from the base model. The primary difference is the engine cooling system, the original Jumo 211Bs did not have a pressurized cooling system and suffered at high altitude, but the new Jumo 211Es corrects this issue. Standard upgrades to the bombsights, radios, and an armored panel etc have of course been done and the frame reinforced to compensate. The plane performs well even when fully loaded.

Quoted


Crew: 2
Length: ~42 ft. Span: 54ft Wing Area: 384 ft2
Empty Weight: 11,275lbs Maximum Weight: 14,200lbs
Engine: 2x 1,1183hp Jumo 211E
Stresses : 388 IAS, 9G at max wt.

Clean performance :
Clean Weight : 12,291lbs
Maximum Speed: 332kts (382mph) @ 15,000ft. Service ceiling: 39,000feet
Rate of climb:
Clean : 2,572 fpm
Light : 3,033 fpm

Wingloading : 37 lbs/ft2 max wt, 33.3 lbs ft2 clean
Range: 756nm
Armament: 2 x 23mm cannon, 4 x 7.92mm MGs forward, 1 twin GAST 7.92mm MG in powered rear conical turret. Internal 440kg bomb load.
Armor : 10mm bulkhead




D.XXIII

Flown by Fokker test pilot Captain C.F.J Boers, the second entry is the Fokker D.XXIII and has a long history in and out of game.

OTL, the prototype was flying in 1940 when the invasion of Holland ended development. That put late 1940, early 1941 as reasonable.

I originally posted the planebuilder ages ago, because it has a weird structure. Then I storylined the first flighting in WW in 1934, expecting to use the +5 rule to bring it to life in late 1935 or early 36.
In the meantime, I decided to adopt a limit of +4 for enhanced storyline reliability, pushing adoption to late 1936/early 37. Then before I got there, discussion resulted in it dropping to +3…or 1937/38.

I normally roll out my planes in Q4, but darn it, it’s time. Especially since the Danes and Aussies are now fielding things that look similar and an engine with the 1940 HS12Z-17 specs has been flying in Gothia works planes for a year.

So, a version of the D.XXIII finally comes to life. The originally posted bird had specs scaled off the OTL design, this is a little larger and quite a bit heavier than the OTL bird, mounting a pair of 1940 HS 12Z-17 engines by Minerva of Belgium, featuring a Madsen 23mm motorcannon, self sealing tanks, ejection seat, and armor. Engines are modeled as 2x 1,170 to account for rear mount inefficiancies

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Crew: 1
Length: ~33 ft. Span: 39ft Wing Area: 303 ft2
Empty Weight: 8825lbs Clean Weight : 10,246lbs Maximum Weight: 12,125lbs
Engine: 2x 1,300hp “Minerva” HS 12z-17
Stresses : 400 IAS, 10G

Clean performance :
Maximum Speed: 371kts (427mph) @ 15,000ft. Service ceiling: 39,000feet
Wingloading : 33.8 lbs/ft2 Range: 756nm

Rate of climb:
Clean: 3,301 fpm
Light :
Armament: 1 x 23mm cannon, 4 x 7.92mm MGs
Armor : 8mm disk , self sealing tanks.

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Feb 22nd 2009, 3:40am)


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Sunday, February 22nd 2009, 4:34am

The entries from Mexico:

With Capitan Valenzuela and Teniente Cielocaminante busy elsewhere, someone else will take their place. Flying the new Aguila III prototype and returning once again will be TNCA's Chief Engineer and test pilot, Angel Lascurain.



TNCA C-11 Aguila III

Power: Supercharged Curtiss-Mexico Emperor V-1720-2 1,400hp

Armament: One 25.4mm cannon (nose), Four 0.3in machine guns (wing)

Size: Wingspan - 29ft
Length - 25ft
Wing area - 200sq ft

Weight: Empty - 4200lb
Max take-off - 5900lb

Performance: Max speed - 410mph
Ceiling - 34,000ft
Range - 500 miles
Climb - 3,200ft per minute


***

Flying a modified and improved Type 105, will be a combat veteran known already to the Argentinians, former Mexican Volunteer Squadron Captain Juan Solitario.



C-15+ (GW type 105Mx) Fighter


Type: Single Seat Fighter

Engine: Supercharged Curtiss-Mexico Emperor V-1720-2 1,400hp

Dimensions:
Span: 31ft
Length: 29ft

Max. speed: 390mph @ 20,000 ft
Max. Climb: 2,700 ft/sec
Max. range: 700 miles
Empty: 6,300 lbs
Max Loaded 8250 lbs

Armament: 4 x 12,7 mm MG, 1 x 25.4mm Cannon

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Desertfox" (Feb 22nd 2009, 5:42pm)


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Sunday, February 22nd 2009, 12:19pm

100-octane fuel is not banned if that is what you normally use. Bring your own as Argentina has no stocks of this fuel at the present time. (Also stops other countries nicking the stuff!)

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Sunday, February 22nd 2009, 12:31pm

At least 2 other countries (the US and Germany) will be using 100-octane, the US used it last year as well in the winning P-42.

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Sunday, February 22nd 2009, 6:27pm

Quoted

The values always quoted is "initial climb rate at zero elevation"

At zero elevation? Would that not be the crash rate then. :D

Quoted

Those average climb rates aren't used and aren't accurate as its an exponential decay with altitude.

Yes, but that also means that if you hold a race to 4000 meters, the "maximum climb rate" would be useless as well since its no longer a valid figure over 1000 meters then. Most likely that the decay is different for each plane as well. Might not be a straight curve either...

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Thursday, February 26th 2009, 11:57pm

Canada will send essentially the same team as last year;

Lt. Col. Tyrus Cassius McQueen of the Royal Canadian Marines flying an Avro Canada CF-5 "Archeopteryx", and RCNAS Commander Reginald Antilles flying a (presumably) improved production model of the Avro Canada CF-175 “Skimmer”

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Saturday, February 28th 2009, 11:20am

I've now got 39 entries out of a total possible 48 and one two-engined slot left in that group.

So if your in two minds about sending a team then make up yer mind! Its first come first served and if there are more empty slots I can't fill then I'll sqeeuze in more NPC fliers. Obviosuly wars and political situations are keeping many nations occupied but I'm other nations can fill the breech.

So far the two NPC fliers are;

No 47 Kapitán Josef František flying a white Fokker-Avia B-135 production fighter

No 48 Capitan Maurice Huber returns flying the prototype EKW D-3801 (an improved Morane-Saulnier 406H built to a Swiss requirement) with an 1,050hp Hispano-Suiza 12Y51 engine and painted in a fetching red and white scheme

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Saturday, February 28th 2009, 7:26pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Hood
I've now got 39 entries out of a total possible 48 and one two-engined slot left in that group.


Well I had not sent a Kongo team as it seemed unfair to claim 6 slots with 3 countries. However I can send one which can be bumped should more PC nations step up.

Kongo fields 2 squadrons of D.XVIIbis v2 biplanes, 3 squadrons of D.XXI fighters, 1 squadron of F.K.58 heavy single engine fighters, and one squadron of either the G.1C or G.1B twin.

Any preference to fill out your rounds?

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Saturday, February 28th 2009, 8:06pm

ooooo, Coldmere's RAC will send a straight Orkan Mk1 flown by none other than Wing Commander Berg

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Saturday, February 28th 2009, 8:30pm

The Irish could send a second Hurri and pilot, if necessary.

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Saturday, February 28th 2009, 8:49pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
Well I had not sent a Kongo team as it seemed unfair to claim 6 slots with 3 countries.


Why not, most of the smaller nations can only hope to put on a good show anyway.

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Saturday, February 28th 2009, 9:38pm

Quoted

Originally posted by thesmilingassassin

Why not, most of the smaller nations can only hope to put on a good show anyway.


It was more that there were a limited number of slots, so why should 1 real life player take 1/8th of them? However, if Hood has slack, I'd rather send Kongo flyers than leave the spots to NPCs.

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Sunday, March 1st 2009, 11:47am

Well I'm waiting for CG to enter any Danish or Iberian entries he has in mind, I've got four slots reserved for him.

China normally sends something too.

Kirk, feel free to enter a Kongo team if you wish, the F.K.58 might be the best choice. Afterall Wes entered six for three countries so why can't you! :D

There are not many NPC with decent aircraft, only the Swiss and the Czechs build their own (now with the 3 year rule I've run out of Czech fighters due to OTL history). Most smaller NPC like Arabia can't afford to ship a team to Argentina so really I'm looking to players to fill the slots.

Don't forget we need low-end fighters too otherwise the bottom end will become too boring with just the top pilots competing for slots and points.

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Sunday, March 1st 2009, 1:02pm

Usually Siam sends a team, and Poland certainly could.

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Sunday, March 1st 2009, 1:33pm

I can always cut the Byzantean entry if needed.

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Sunday, March 1st 2009, 2:56pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Hood
Well I'm waiting for CG to enter any Danish or Iberian entries he has in mind, I've got four slots reserved for him.



Keep them open, entrants real soon!
The last 2 weeks in work have been a disaster!!!

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Sunday, March 1st 2009, 9:54pm

Wes : sorry, hadn't noticed you entered 6, wasn't trying to be snarky, just polite, and whiffed.

Hood :
Here are 2 Kongo entries if you need them. Both planes debuted WW 1935. Kongo does still field the biplane and twin if you need either instead of the FK-58... which should fly like a P-47 :)

Since you mentioned a lack of new Czech planes, I took the liberty of a hypothetical Fokker-Avia update, the B-137, which would be available to all if they wanted.

Heh hadn’t noticed Wes had entered Three. However his three are better developed than the Kongo :)

Kongo Kontestants

The Kongo sends two monoplanes.

The FK 58 is Koolhoven’s attempt to mate one large radial engine with a heavy weapons loadout and create a bomber killer on the cheap. The Kongo outfitted a squadron with them to defend Boma and Matadi in case the South Americans took steps to close these “Neutral” ports.

The D.XXI is Fokker’s most recent radial entry for the export markets, and comes with different packages for different climes, from skis to dust filters, or in this case an additional prop spinner to force more cooling air onto the engine.

In both cases the historical airframes were used as a starting place and adjusted.

The Kongo pilots are :
Majoor Theodore Kimbangu flying the Fokker D.XXIa.
Kapitein Wilhelm von der Goltz flying the F.K. 58.

Both gentlemen served in the Kongo-Dutch airforce prior to the formal division, and have chosen to remain with the Kongo airforce since. They are regarded as excellent pilots and the Kongo hopes to make a respectable showing, despite the older aircraft. An oversized ground crew has been dispatched to accompany them.

1935 F.K. 58

Crew: 1
Length: 29 ft. Span: 36ft Wing Area: 181 ft2
Empty Weight: 5531lbs Maximum Weight: 7,716lbs
Engine: 1x 1,065hp Pegasus XVIII
Stresses : 350 IAS, 12G

Clean performance :
Clean Weight : 6,101lbs
Maximum Speed: 296kts (340mph) @ 15,000ft. Service ceiling: 37,000feet
Wingloading : 33.7 lbs/ft2 Range: 454nm

Rate of climb:
Clean: 2,279 fpm
Light : 2,478 fpm
Armament: 2 x 23mm cannon, 4 x 7.92mm MGs, 750kg bombload.
Armor : 10mm disk

1935 D.XXIa

Crew: 1
Length: 26.9 ft. Span: 36.1ft Wing Area: 174 ft2
Empty Weight: 4,048lbs Maximum Weight: 5,070lbs
Engine: 1x 995hp Mercury XV
Stresses : 325 IAS, 10G

Clean performance :
Clean Weight : 4,387lbs
Maximum Speed: 304kts (350mph) @ 15,000ft. Service ceiling: 41,000feet
Wingloading : 25.2 lbs/ft2 Range: 502nm

Rate of climb:
Clean: 3,191 fpm
Light : 3,622 fpm
Armament: 6 x 7.92mm MGs, 300kg
Armor : 10mm disk


The Czech B-137 is the upgraded B-135 featuring the new Avia-Minerva 105 adaptation of the HS-12Y (aka the historical Mk-105). The airframe has been reworked slightly and is all metal monocoque design, though the control surfaces are still fabric covered to keep them light. A 4,000m supercharger is fitted, but Avia is negotiating through their partner, Fokker to license a better version, which would be the B-137A. The plane is entering service with the Czech airforce and is available for export.

Pilots are Lieutenant Jan Šnejdárek and Capitan Karel Moravec

Sim is B-135 airframe (got to within 1mph and 11fps of ‘real’ for light weight, very good) expanded by an arbitrary 5%, made slightly heavier and fitted with 1940 Mk-105 engine. Note- for the motor cannon, I reduced mounting weight by 1/2 to account for engines role, which of course is a bennie of that type of mounting.

1937 Fokker-Avia B-137

Crew: 1
Length: 29.78 ft. Span: 37.47ft Wing Area: 202 ft2
Empty Weight: 4,754 lbs Maximum Weight: 5,732lbs
Engine: 1x 1,100hp Minerva-Avia 105
Stresses : 362 IAS, 10G

Clean performance :
Clean Weight : 5,315lbs
Maximum Speed: 325kts (374mph) @ 13,123ft. Service ceiling: 39,500feet
Wingloading : 26.2 lbs/ft2 Range: 508nm

Rate of climb:
Clean: 2,927 fpm
Light : 3,364 fpm
Armament: 1x 20mm motorcannon, 4 x 7.92mm MGs, 250kg
Armor : 8mm disk

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Mar 1st 2009, 11:11pm)


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Monday, March 2nd 2009, 7:38am

China is checking, which team will be send.