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Italian Destroyers

1907, Soldati Artigliere Class

Ships in class; Artigliere, Bersagliere, Corazziere, Granatiere, Lanciere



Soldati Artigliere Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1907

Displacement:
717 t light; 736 t standard; 834 t normal; 910 t full load

Dimensions:
260.00 ft x 26.00 ft x 10.80 ft (normal load)

Armament:
1 - 3.00" / 45 gun in a single mount
2 – 57mm / 50 guns in 2 single mounts
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 25 lbs / 11 kg
2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes, in 2 single mounts

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 1 shaft, 19,483 shp / 14,535 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
77 - 100

Cost:
£0.096 million / $0.386 million


1909, Soldati Alpino Class

Ships in class; Alpino, Fuciliere, Pontiere, Ascaro





Soldati Alpino Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1909

Displacement:
698 t light; 718 t standard; 834 t normal; 924 t full load

Dimensions:
260.00 ft x 26.00 ft x 10.80 ft (normal load)

Armament:
2 - 3.00" / 45 guns in 2 single mounts
2 – 57mm / 50 guns in 1 duple mount
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 38 lbs / 17 kg
2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes, in 2 single mounts

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 1 shaft, 19,483 shp / 14,535 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
77 - 100

Cost:
£0.094 million / $0.376 million

1912, Indomito Class

Ships in class; Indomito, Impavido, Insidioso, Irrequieto




Indomito Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1912

Displacement:
741 t light; 762 t standard; 834 t normal; 889 t full load

Dimensions:
260.00 ft x 26.00 ft x 10.80 ft (normal load)

Armament:
4 - 3.00" / 45 guns in 4 single mounts
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 54 lbs / 25 kg
3 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm torpedoes in 2 single above water mounts, and 1 underwater tube

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25,794 shp / 19,242 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
77 - 100

Cost:
£0.098 million / $0.390 million


1912, Ardito Class

Ships in class; Ardito, Ardente





Ardito Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1912

Displacement:
876 t light; 906 t standard; 986 t normal; 1,045 t full load

Dimensions:
280.00 ft x 28.00 ft x 11.00 ft (normal load)

Armament:
4 – 100mm / 40 guns in 4 single mounts
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 122 lbs / 55 kg
5 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes, in 1 triple and 2 single mounts

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 27,370 shp / 20,418 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
87 - 114

Cost:
£0.120 million / $0.481 million


1913, Audace Class

Ships in class; Animoso





Audace Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1913

Displacement:
818 t light; 843 t standard; 916 t normal; 971 t full load

Dimensions:
270.00 ft x 27.00 ft x 11.00 ft (normal load)

Armament:
6 - 3.00" / 45 guns in 3 duple mounts
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 81 lbs / 37 kg
6 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes in 2 triple mounts

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 26,738 shp / 19,946 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
83 - 108

Cost:
£0.119 million / $0.476 million

1915, Pilo Class

Ships in class; Rosolino Pilo, Giuseppe Cesare Abba, Antonio Mosto, Ippolito Nievo, Francesco Nullo, Simone Schiaffino, Audace



Pilo Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1915

Displacement:
802 t light; 830 t standard; 896 t normal; 945 t full load

Dimensions:
280.00 ft x 28.00 ft x 10.00 ft (normal load)

Armament:
4 – 100mm / 50 guns in 4 single mounts
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 122 lbs / 55 kg
4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes in 1 quadruple mount

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25,723 shp / 19,190 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
81 - 106

Cost:
£0.158 million / $0.634 million


1917, Sirtori Class

Ships in class; Giuseppe Sirtori, Giovanni Acerbi, Vincenzo Giordano Orsini, Francesco Stucco



Sirtori Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1917

Displacement:
891 t light; 921 t standard; 986 t normal; 1,033 t full load

Dimensions:
280.00 ft x 28.00 ft x 11.00 ft (normal load)

Armament:
4 – 100mm / 50 guns in 4 single mounts
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 122 lbs / 55 kg
4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes in 1 quadruple mount

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 31,299 shp / 23,349 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
87 - 114

Cost:
£0.221 million / $0.885 million

1917, La Masa Class

Ships in class; Giuseppe La Masa, Angelo Bassini, Agostino Bertani, Giacinto Carini, Nicola Fabrizi, Giuseppe La Farina, Giacomo Medici




La Masa Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1917

Displacement:
875 t light; 905 t standard; 986 t normal; 1,046 t full load

Dimensions:
280.00 ft x 28.00 ft x 11.00 ft (normal load)

Armament:
4 – 100mm / 50 guns in 4 single mounts
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 122 lbs / 55 kg
4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes, in 2 duple mounts

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 27,370 shp / 20,418 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
87 - 114

Cost:
£0.216 million / $0.862 million



1919, Palestro Class

Ships in class; Palestro, Confienza, San Martino, Solferino



Palestro Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1919

Displacement:
1,287 t light; 1,330 t standard; 1,404 t normal; 1,458 t full load

Dimensions:
320.00 ft x 32.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)

Armament:
6 – 100mm / 50 guns in 3 duple mounts
2 - 0.54" / 14 mm machine guns
Weight of broadside 183 lbs / 83 kg
4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes, in 2 duple mounts

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 41,113 shp / 30,671 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
114 - 149

Cost:
£0.391 million / $1.565 million


1921, Varese Class

Ships in class; Varese, Vircelli





Varese , Italian Light Cruiser laid down 1921

Displacement:
1,935 t light; 2,013 t standard; 2,224 t normal; 2,385 t full load

Dimensions:
370.00 ft x 37.00 ft x 12.10 ft (normal load)

Armament:
6 – 130mm / 45 guns in 3 duple turrets. Q turret is superfiring
6 - 0.79" / 20 mm AA cannon.
Weight of broadside 404 lbs / 183 kg
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main turrets 1.00" / 25 mm
Conning tower 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 40,831 shp / 30,460 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 9,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
161 - 210

Cost:
£0.681 million / $2.725 million


1922, Generale Antonio Cantore Class

Ships in class; Generale Antonio Cantore, Generale Antonino Cascino, Generale Antonio Chinotto, Generale Marcello Prestinari, Generale Achille Papa, Generale Carlo Montanari



Generale Antonio Cantore Class, Italian Destroyer laid down 1922

Displacement:
1,526 t light; 1,581 t standard; 1,680 t normal; 1,753 t full load

Dimensions:
350.00 ft x 35.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)

Armament:
8 – 100mm / 50 guns in 2 quadruple turrets
1 - 3.00" / 45 gun in a single mount
4 - 0.79" / 20 mm AA cannon
Weight of broadside 259 lbs / 117 kg
4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes in 1 quadruple mount

Armour:
Conning tower 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 40,954 shp / 30,552 Kw = 33.50 kts
Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
131 - 170

Cost:
£0.574 million / $2.296 million

Well done!

Using superfiring guns on DDs in 1915 (PILO-class) and thereafter stretches things quite a bit, doesn´t it?

However, at least it looks cool and I really like the LA MASA-class. :o)

Maybe you can alter things a bit and introduce superfiring guns on DDs a little bit later?

Just my opinion of course, what do others think?

HoOmAn

first of all - I second the well done!

Secondly Hoo once again probaly has a point there.

IIRC, the first british DD with superfiring guns was HMS AMBUSCADE (laid down 8.12.1924), followed by HMS AMAZON which was laid down on the 29.01.1925. Both were single ships used as testbeds mainly.

The first DD-class with superfiring guns, the so-called A-class, was laid down 1928 (8 units).

The USN started with the FARRAGUT-class in 1932.

The first dutch DD with superfiring guns was EVERTSEN in 1925.

All this just is for the historians among us of course. Personally I´ve no problems with superfiring guns on DDs in 1920...

What do the others think?

HoOmAn

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All this just is for the historians among us of course. Personally I´ve no problems with superfiring guns on DDs in 1920...

The French Audaciaux class has 3x4.7", 1 superfiring, in 1921, but the tight limits on a navy with global responsibilities has led to innovative thinking.

The Russian Navy has yet to take that step.

the Iberian Navy is currently using aft superfiring guns - BTW I think these are earlier than the examples you mentioned Hoo?

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Originally posted by LordArpad
the Iberian Navy is currently using aft superfiring guns - BTW I think these are earlier than the examples you mentioned Hoo?

What exactly do you mean?

Greets,

HoOmAn

that I should not trust my memory ...

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Their design was inspired by the British "Scott" class. So similar was their aspect to the Royal Navy destroyers that some degree of confusions occasionally resulted. The first pair (the first Churruca and the first Alcalá Galiano) was sold to Argentina. The following fourteen were to be split in two groups. The later ships differed from their older sister and were fitted with a tripod mast, a more capable bridge and 120 mm armament. The guns were of a new type with larger shields. In the second batch only the Antequera was fitted with five 120 mm guns. During the war, most central guns were landed and used to complete the armament of other destroyers in the same class. Churruca Class destroyers were excellent ships, quite fast and well armed, their only weakness being a lack of up-to-date antiaircraft armament when aviation was beginning to show its potential. All ships in the Churruca Class were built at Cartagena. The keel of the first destroyer in the first batch was laid in 1926 and six sister ships would follow between September 1928 and March 1933. In the second group, five destroyers entered service between May 1935 and the first months of the war, though some ships were initially fitted with 102 mm guns. The last two entered service in 1937.

from: http://web.forodigital.es/uphm/mgl/buques/destroy.htm

Did you mean in service dates or laid down? And I'd forgot that they had forward superfiring guns as well.

cheers

Bernhard

I mentioned the dates when the british ships were laid down so browsing through that website you linked us to I get the impression that those spanish DDs were laid down 1926 and later and thus the british DDs remain the earliest of those with a 4x1 (2 superfiring) layout...

Tschö,

HoOmAn

I've changed the arrangement of the guns on D15-19. They still look fairly good though.

"IIRC, the first british DD with superfiring guns was HMS AMBUSCADE (laid down 8.12.1924), followed by HMS AMAZON which was laid down on the 29.01.1925. Both were single ships used as testbeds mainly."

Acctually the Brits did it way earlier with their 5 Admiralty Leader class ships laid down in 1917 with 5x4.7" guns with superfireing guns both fore and aft.
the Shakespear class had superfiring turrets forward in 1918 and the V and W class DD's had them both fore and aft in 1917/18. I suspect the Ambuscade and Amazon were built to suplement the admiralty Leader class as destroyer leaders in addition to the purpose of experementing with new types of propulsion. It amazes me how these ships acheived speeds of 37/38 knots in 1926! The first use of twins (at least with britain) was with the Tribal class.
I got all my information from M.J. Whitlys DD's of WW2....which finnally came in today...WOOHOO! Talk about timeing or what!