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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:05pm

Danzig Schiffbau

A couple of designs considered for an undisclosed customer

Project 37/5, Danzig/Coldemere DDL laid down 1937

Displacement:
3 788 t light; 3 953 t standard; 4 407 t normal; 4 771 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
426,51 ft / 426,51 ft x 45,93 ft x 19,69 ft (normal load)
130,00 m / 130,00 m x 14,00 m x 6,00 m

Armament:
8 - 4,53" / 115 mm guns (4x2 guns), 48,50lbs / 22,00kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4,53" / 115 mm guns (4x2 guns), 48,50lbs / 22,00kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
24 - 1,38" / 35,0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1,31lbs / 0,59kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 807 lbs / 366 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 24,0" / 609,6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 2,36" / 60 mm -
2nd: 2,36" / 60 mm 2,36" / 60 mm -
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 53 786 shp / 40 125 Kw = 33,00 kts
Range 6 500nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 818 tons

Complement:
269 - 351

Cost:
£2,305 million / $9,219 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 97 tons, 2,2 %
Armour: 119 tons, 2,7 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 119 tons, 2,7 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 1 491 tons, 33,8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 002 tons, 45,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 619 tons, 14,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1,8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3 499 lbs / 1 587 Kg = 75,4 x 4,5 " / 115 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 13,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,55
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,11

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,400
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,29 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Mid (50 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m (13,88 ft / 4,23 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Stern: 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Average freeboard: 18,68 ft / 5,70 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 128,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116,0 %
Waterplane Area: 12 515 Square feet or 1 163 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 405 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,87
- Longitudinal: 3,36
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate




Project 37/6, Danzig/coldemere CL laid down 1937

Displacement:
5 702 t light; 5 994 t standard; 6 569 t normal; 7 028 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
492,13 ft / 492,13 ft x 50,85 ft x 22,97 ft (normal load)
150,00 m / 150,00 m x 15,50 m x 7,00 m

Armament:
4 - 8,27" / 210 mm guns (2x2 guns), 300,00lbs / 136,08kg shells, 1937 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 4,53" / 115 mm guns (6x2 guns), 46,40lbs / 21,05kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
24 - 1,38" / 35,0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1,31lbs / 0,59kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 788 lbs / 811 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 24,0" / 609,6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 3,15" / 80 mm
2nd: 2,36" / 60 mm 2,36" / 60 mm -
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 76 777 shp / 57 276 Kw = 33,00 kts
Range 6 000nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 034 tons

Complement:
364 - 474

Cost:
£3,698 million / $14,791 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 215 tons, 3,3 %
Armour: 272 tons, 4,1 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 272 tons, 4,1 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 2 128 tons, 32,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 006 tons, 45,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 867 tons, 13,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1,2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4 453 lbs / 2 020 Kg = 15,8 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 14,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0,400
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,68 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Mid (50 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m (13,88 ft / 4,23 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Stern: 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Average freeboard: 18,68 ft / 5,70 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 131,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114,3 %
Waterplane Area: 15 405 Square feet or 1 431 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 104 lbs/sq ft or 507 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,91
- Longitudinal: 2,55
- Overall: 1,01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Vukovlad" (Dec 3rd 2008, 6:08pm)


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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:10pm

On the DDL, I'd suggest that if you have enough tonnage for 16 (!) 115mm guns, you should look at heavier weapons instead.

On the CL, I would suggest that 4 21cm guns is NOT a good choice in a design of this type.

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:12pm

IMO the first one with DP weapons makes for a cheap AA protection platform.

In the second one I have to agree they are too weakly armed to last too long vs the majority of the ships around.

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:13pm

Whats wrong with the 21 cm guns?

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:16pm

IMO not enough of them plus no protection for vitals.

And looking at the first design I would put a little bit of protection to the hull of the first design.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "perdedor99" (Dec 3rd 2008, 6:17pm)


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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:18pm

Slower rate of fire with 8" guns over 6" guns means that they could be killed by most 6x6" CLs (IMHO).

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:36pm

New versions

Project 37/7, Danzig/Coldemere CL laid down 1937

Displacement:
6 148 t light; 6 427 t standard; 6 992 t normal; 7 445 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
492,13 ft / 492,13 ft x 49,21 ft x 22,97 ft (normal load)
150,00 m / 150,00 m x 15,00 m x 7,00 m

Armament:
9 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (3x3 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1937 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 4,53" / 115 mm guns (6x2 guns), 46,40lbs / 21,05kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
24 - 1,38" / 35,0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1,31lbs / 0,59kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 515 lbs / 687 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 24,0" / 609,6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 410,11 ft / 125,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 128 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 3,15" / 80 mm
2nd: 2,36" / 60 mm 2,36" / 60 mm -
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 69 226 shp / 51 643 Kw = 33,00 kts
Range 6 000nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 018 tons

Complement:
382 - 497

Cost:
£3,507 million / $14,027 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 189 tons, 2,7 %
Armour: 1 102 tons, 15,8 %
- Belts: 762 tons, 10,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 340 tons, 4,9 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 1 919 tons, 27,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 858 tons, 40,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 844 tons, 12,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1,1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6 257 lbs / 2 838 Kg = 60,8 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 1,0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
Metacentric height 1,9 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 15,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,77
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,440
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25,51 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Mid (50 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m (13,88 ft / 4,23 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Stern: 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Average freeboard: 18,68 ft / 5,70 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111,4 %
Waterplane Area: 15 916 Square feet or 1 479 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 468 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,91
- Longitudinal: 2,36
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate



Project 37/8, Danzig/Coöldemere DDL laid down 1937

Displacement:
4 070 t light; 4 214 t standard; 4 689 t normal; 5 069 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
442,91 ft / 442,91 ft x 44,29 ft x 19,69 ft (normal load)
135,00 m / 135,00 m x 13,50 m x 6,00 m

Armament:
12 - 4,53" / 115 mm guns (6x2 guns), 46,40lbs / 21,05kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 1,38" / 35,0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1,31lbs / 0,59kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 588 lbs / 267 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 24,0" / 609,6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,76" / 70 mm 351,05 ft / 107,00 m 8,14 ft / 2,48 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 122 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 2,36" / 60 mm -
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0,79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 55 814 shp / 41 637 Kw = 33,00 kts
Range 6 500nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 855 tons

Complement:
283 - 368

Cost:
£2,295 million / $9,181 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 74 tons, 1,6 %
Armour: 592 tons, 12,6 %
- Belts: 317 tons, 6,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 90 tons, 1,9 %
- Armour Deck: 186 tons, 4,0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 1 547 tons, 33,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 777 tons, 37,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 620 tons, 13,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1,7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3 566 lbs / 1 617 Kg = 76,8 x 4,5 " / 115 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,07
Metacentric height 1,7 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 14,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,59
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,23

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,425
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,25 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29,53 ft / 9,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Mid (50 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m (13,88 ft / 4,23 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Stern: 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Average freeboard: 18,95 ft / 5,78 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 121,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112,3 %
Waterplane Area: 12 743 Square feet or 1 184 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 338 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,79
- Longitudinal: 2,85
- Overall: 0,90
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:39pm

Much better. I'd be a bit concerned about the top weight on the DDL, it might work better to go to a Wyoming-style arrangement of the main battery, but all in all much better.

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:42pm

What is a Wyoming arrangement?

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:50pm

USS Wyoming had 6 main battery turrets, 2 forward and 4 aft, with 3 deck level and 3 raised turrets. See here for some pictures: http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_dir…yoming_bb32.htm

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:55pm

Makes sense. reduces the weight and helps the ship strength.

12

Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 6:55pm

Makes sense for broadsides but wouldnt it lead to alot of dead angles for DP guns?

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 7:00pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Vukovlad
Makes sense for broadsides but wouldnt it lead to alot of dead angles for DP guns?


true but IMO makes for a better ship by reducing the top weight problem.

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 7:04pm

For low-altitude attackers approaching from directly ahead or astern, yes. On any other angle, not really. And, if there ARE low-altitude attackers (ie, torpedo bombers at this time period) executing a star-pattern attack on a ship of this size, the guns that are masked directly ahead or astern can engage targets on the beam.

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Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 7:15pm

Last version

Project 37/9, Danzig/Coöldemere DDL laid down 1937

Displacement:
4 070 t light; 4 214 t standard; 4 689 t normal; 5 069 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
442,91 ft / 442,91 ft x 44,29 ft x 19,69 ft (normal load)
135,00 m / 135,00 m x 13,50 m x 6,00 m

Armament:
12 - 4,53" / 115 mm guns (6x2 guns), 46,40lbs / 21,05kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 3 raised mounts
24 - 1,38" / 35,0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1,31lbs / 0,59kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 588 lbs / 267 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 24,0" / 609,6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,76" / 70 mm 351,05 ft / 107,00 m 8,14 ft / 2,48 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 122 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 2,36" / 60 mm -
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0,79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 55 814 shp / 41 637 Kw = 33,00 kts
Range 6 500nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 855 tons

Complement:
283 - 368

Cost:
£2,295 million / $9,181 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 74 tons, 1,6 %
Armour: 592 tons, 12,6 %
- Belts: 317 tons, 6,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 90 tons, 1,9 %
- Armour Deck: 186 tons, 4,0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 1 547 tons, 33,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 777 tons, 37,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 620 tons, 13,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1,7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3 599 lbs / 1 633 Kg = 77,6 x 4,5 " / 115 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
Metacentric height 1,7 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 14,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,56
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,24

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,425
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,25 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29,53 ft / 9,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Mid (50 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m (13,88 ft / 4,23 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Stern: 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Average freeboard: 18,95 ft / 5,78 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 121,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112,3 %
Waterplane Area: 12 743 Square feet or 1 184 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 338 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,79
- Longitudinal: 2,87
- Overall: 0,90
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Thursday, December 4th 2008, 1:57pm

Version without strained hull which of course requires a heavier ship

Project 37/10, Coldemere/Danzig DDL/CLAA laid down 1937

Displacement:
4 502 t light; 4 659 t standard; 5 162 t normal; 5 564 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
459,32 ft / 459,32 ft x 45,93 ft x 19,69 ft (normal load)
140,00 m / 140,00 m x 14,00 m x 6,00 m

Armament:
12 - 4,53" / 115 mm guns (6x2 guns), 48,50lbs / 22,00kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 3 raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 1,38" / 35,0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1,31lbs / 0,59kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 613 lbs / 278 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 24,0" / 609,6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,76" / 70 mm 344,49 ft / 105,00 m 7,97 ft / 2,43 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 2,36" / 60 mm -
2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0,79" / 20 mm, Conning tower: 3,15" / 80 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 58 638 shp / 43 744 Kw = 33,00 kts
Range 6 500nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 905 tons

Complement:
303 - 395

Cost:
£2,438 million / $9,750 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 74 tons, 1,4 %
Armour: 618 tons, 12,0 %
- Belts: 307 tons, 6,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 90 tons, 1,7 %
- Armour Deck: 201 tons, 3,9 %
- Conning Tower: 20 tons, 0,4 %
Machinery: 1 625 tons, 31,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 105 tons, 40,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 659 tons, 12,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1,5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4 786 lbs / 2 171 Kg = 103,1 x 4,5 " / 115 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
Metacentric height 1,8 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 14,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,51
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,19

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,435
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,66 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29,53 ft / 9,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Mid (50 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m (13,88 ft / 4,23 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Stern: 13,88 ft / 4,23 m
- Average freeboard: 18,95 ft / 5,78 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 115,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116,7 %
Waterplane Area: 13 809 Square feet or 1 283 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 79 lbs/sq ft or 384 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,89
- Longitudinal: 2,80
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Vukovlad" (Dec 4th 2008, 2:00pm)


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Thursday, December 4th 2008, 2:18pm

Actually, for ships of this size, under the Design Rules for Gentlemen, you can go down to 0.75 composite strength without ACTUALLY having a weak hull. So you can save some tonnage there.

Also, 150 shells per gun is probably not enough for a relatively rapid-firing gun like a 4.5". I'd suggest at least 270 rpg, probably more than that.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Hrolf Hakonson" (Dec 4th 2008, 2:19pm)


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Thursday, December 4th 2008, 2:27pm

So you can ignore the caution strained hull warning?

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Thursday, December 4th 2008, 3:17pm

As long as the composite strength is 0.75 or greater, yes, just like you can on destroyers and other smaller vessels.

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Thursday, December 4th 2008, 3:20pm

OK, good to know