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Sunday, February 14th 2010, 10:51pm

New version that is much better armed but also much heavier

Basilisk, Danzig Battleship laid down 1940

Displacement:
44 181 t light; 47 013 t standard; 49 483 t normal; 51 458 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
820,21 ft / 820,21 ft x 111,55 ft x 31,50 ft (normal load)
250,00 m / 250,00 m x 34,00 m x 9,60 m

Armament:
10 - 16,00" / 406 mm guns (2x3 2x2), 2 048,00lbs / 928,96kg shells, 1940 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
20 - 5,00" / 127 mm guns (10x2 guns), 62,50lbs / 28,35kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
40 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns (10x4 guns), 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1940 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 21 808 lbs / 9 892 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 15,7" / 400 mm 433,07 ft / 132,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 11,8" / 300 mm 433,07 ft / 132,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 81 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
3,15" / 80 mm 433,07 ft / 132,00 m 18,08 ft / 5,51 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15,7" / 400 mm 11,8" / 300 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
2nd: 3,15" / 80 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 3,15" / 80 mm
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 5,91" / 150 mm, Conning tower: 7,87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 113 011 shp / 84 306 Kw = 28,00 kts
Range 8 000nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 444 tons

Complement:
1 658 - 2 156

Cost:
£25,555 million / $102,222 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 726 tons, 5,5 %
Armour: 18 580 tons, 37,5 %
- Belts: 5 870 tons, 11,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 912 tons, 1,8 %
- Armament: 3 942 tons, 8,0 %
- Armour Deck: 7 627 tons, 15,4 %
- Conning Tower: 229 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 3 022 tons, 6,1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 19 854 tons, 40,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5 301 tons, 10,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
82 224 lbs / 37 296 Kg = 40,1 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 12,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 7,2 ft / 2,2 m
Roll period: 17,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 64 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,34

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,601
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,35 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 33,13 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29,53 ft / 9,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Mid (50 %): 26,25 ft / 8,00 m (22,97 ft / 7,00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Stern: 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Average freeboard: 24,87 ft / 7,58 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 76,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 197,3 %
Waterplane Area: 69 809 Square feet or 6 485 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 212 lbs/sq ft or 1 036 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,28
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Sunday, February 14th 2010, 11:07pm

I think you'd be better off w/ 3x3 aBy set up then the "Nevada" layout for the MB. Also, she seems over armoured now. 40cm belt, w/ 30cm UB? I'd think a 38cm belt w/ 20cm UB would be fine. And I think you've got your 'other' and barbette armor backwards, as you have 30cm 'other' but only a 20cm barbette on you MB. My $0.02

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Sunday, February 14th 2010, 11:37pm

3x3 version

Basilisk, Danzig Battleship laid down 1940

Displacement:
40 860 t light; 43 448 t standard; 45 797 t normal; 47 676 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
820,21 ft / 820,21 ft x 104,99 ft x 31,50 ft (normal load)
250,00 m / 250,00 m x 32,00 m x 9,60 m

Armament:
9 - 16,00" / 406 mm guns (3x3 guns), 2 048,00lbs / 928,96kg shells, 1940 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
20 - 5,00" / 127 mm guns (10x2 guns), 62,50lbs / 28,35kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
40 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns (10x4 guns), 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1940 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 19 760 lbs / 8 963 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 15,7" / 400 mm 433,07 ft / 132,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 7,87" / 200 mm 433,07 ft / 132,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 81 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
3,15" / 80 mm 433,07 ft / 132,00 m 18,08 ft / 5,51 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15,7" / 400 mm 7,87" / 200 mm 11,8" / 300 mm
2nd: 3,15" / 80 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 3,15" / 80 mm
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 5,91" / 150 mm, Conning tower: 7,87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 107 029 shp / 79 843 Kw = 28,00 kts
Range 8 000nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 229 tons

Complement:
1 564 - 2 034

Cost:
£23,433 million / $93,733 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 470 tons, 5,4 %
Armour: 16 898 tons, 36,9 %
- Belts: 5 213 tons, 11,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 912 tons, 2,0 %
- Armament: 3 446 tons, 7,5 %
- Armour Deck: 7 110 tons, 15,5 %
- Conning Tower: 217 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 2 862 tons, 6,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 18 630 tons, 40,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 937 tons, 10,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
76 369 lbs / 34 640 Kg = 37,3 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 11,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09
Metacentric height 6,4 ft / 1,9 m
Roll period: 17,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,85
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,43

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,591
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,81 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 33,00 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29,53 ft / 9,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Mid (50 %): 26,25 ft / 8,00 m (22,97 ft / 7,00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Stern: 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Average freeboard: 24,87 ft / 7,58 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 195,0 %
Waterplane Area: 65 077 Square feet or 6 046 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 208 lbs/sq ft or 1 015 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,32
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Monday, February 15th 2010, 1:59am

As for the 8 000nm at 15,00 kt range.
Isn't it extensive for a ship that will sail the Baltic?

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Monday, February 15th 2010, 2:08am

Well as a trading port Danzig needs to protect its trade routes.









But seriously instead of starting a new thread I thought to use this one to test some designs

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Monday, February 15th 2010, 6:16am

If trade protection is you main concern..then I think you'd be better off with 5 9,000t CLs then 1 45,000t BB.

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Monday, February 15th 2010, 6:21am

I'd even say 21-knot 8"-gunned ships, not even CLs.

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Monday, February 15th 2010, 7:36am

I think a 45,000 BB is a better idea.

This ship will not have a job.
It is build just too look pretty.
It will buy a farm same day that any one within a bomber range decides they are hostile towards the free city.

This ship is a pride of the navy it is the navy. Its life boat have more displacement that all the previous ships around.
Plus if there is no war in Europe then it will be the last BB in service. It will remain a first line unit when CVN USS Nimitz will be send to the breakers.

This is a one ship fantasy fleet.

I like it.
its romantic

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Marek Gutkowski" (Feb 15th 2010, 7:37am)