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Saturday, November 22nd 2008, 7:55pm

RfP Scout-Bombers

The IDC is issuing a RfP for the replacement of the current
Douglas O-2M, Bristol 93B Boarhound II and Kawasaki Ki-3.

The aircraft is perform the same mission as these aircraft, that is Reconnaissance and Attack.


Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 11:56am

Fairey is offering refurbished ex-RAF Fairey Battles at cheap prices. Three crew are carried and the armament comprises one 7.7mm MG in the starboard wing and another in a dorsal position, bombload is 1,000lbs. 274 Battles have been built since 1932 and production ended in 1934.
Dimensions; 54/ 42.4/ 15.6/ 422 sq ft; 1x 870hp RR Peregrine I; max speed 244mph; range 1000 miles at 16,000ft at 200mph and service ceiling 25,000ft.

Bristol is offering the Type 142M Blenheim. The aircraft is of all-metal construction with Frise mass-balanced ailerons and split flaps and with a retractable undercarriage. Three crewmen are carried and the armament consists of a 7.7mm Vickers in the port wing and a dorsal turret with twin 7.7mm Vickers ‘K’ guns, bombload is 1,000lbs in an internal bay.
Dimensions; 56.4/ 42.7/ 9.10/ 469 sq ft; 2x 840hp Bristol Mercury VIII; max speed 222mph; range 1,400 miles and service ceiling 22,000ft.
Note that if these are ordered as new aircraft they will be the last off the production line, from then on any future light bomber for the RAF will be either a new type or modified Beauforts.


Tuesday, November 25th 2008, 10:29pm

Although the Fairey offer is very tempting the IDC is hesitant to have such a large part of its Air force based on aircraft from a SAER country which may cut of spares when they are most needed. Final decision will be made later


Thursday, November 27th 2008, 12:55pm

What is it that Persia is looking for in a scout-bomber?

The US firm of Vultee can offer the V-11/V-12 light bomber, and Douglas can offer the Douglas Model 8 (also known as the Northrop A-17A).

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Hrolf Hakonson" (Nov 27th 2008, 1:10pm)


Thursday, November 27th 2008, 1:17pm

We are looking for an aircraft that can both be used for tactical reconnaissance and have a reasonable attack capability 500kg+ bomb load.


Thursday, November 27th 2008, 1:26pm

Single or twin engined? Range requirements? Speed requirements?


Thursday, November 27th 2008, 1:45pm

Speed and number of engines arent that important, 1000 mile range at least and ability to operate of rough airfields as policing from the air will probably be a main peacetime mission.


Thursday, November 27th 2008, 3:51pm

Breda Ba.65 would nicely fit the bill for what you want.


Thursday, November 27th 2008, 4:09pm

Given that range requirement, the Vultee's are probably out. The Northrop/Douglas aircraft, on the other hand, is easily in, and has a bomb load of from 500 kg up to over 800 kg depending on version.


Tuesday, December 2nd 2008, 3:52pm

The IDC have decided to order 30 Fairey Battles and 60 Northrop A-17

BTW RA any plans for the Ba.201?

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Vukovlad" (Dec 2nd 2008, 3:59pm)


Tuesday, December 2nd 2008, 4:09pm


Originally posted by Vukovlad
BTW RA any plans for the Ba.201?

Not really. The Ba. 67 fits the dive bombing bill for the moment. I was considering the SM.93 as a possibility as its got very good performance.


Tuesday, December 2nd 2008, 4:14pm

And an odd layout


Tuesday, December 2nd 2008, 4:18pm


Originally posted by Vukovlad
And an odd layout

It would be likely that the prone pilot position would be replaced with something more conventional instead.

Still I have other ideas for attack/strike aircraft that are more attractive...


Tuesday, December 2nd 2008, 4:21pm

With the powerful engines Italy has in WW a usable Ba.88 or SM.85 arent that far out (and very time appropriate)