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Thursday, April 2nd 2009, 12:53pm

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How many do you think would be sufficient?


You're probably using patterns of 5 or 7 charges with enough for around ten attacks so 50-70.

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Thursday, April 2nd 2009, 1:38pm

I am sure a licence agreement can be made on the 40mm Bofors between Nordmark and Ireland.

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Thursday, April 2nd 2009, 11:07pm

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Originally posted by Earl822
I am sure a licence agreement can be made on the 40mm Bofors between Nordmark and Ireland.

I'd probably prefer the Bofors to the 2-pounder; from everything I've heard the Bofors 40 is the better gun.

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Friday, April 3rd 2009, 2:11am

Oh, it absolutely is, but then, it ought to be, it's about 20 years or more later in design.

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Friday, April 3rd 2009, 2:41pm

The 2pdr though helps with commonality given the war-time role with the RN.

Vickers could offer the 0.661in HMG in a sextuple mount. Better rate of fire and only slightly inferior hitting power. It's what is replacing the RN 2pdrs.

Also the 2pdr offers a good anti-MTB capability.

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Friday, April 3rd 2009, 4:15pm

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Vickers could offer the 0.661in HMG in a sextuple mount. Better rate of fire and only slightly inferior hitting power. It's what is replacing the RN 2pdrs.


I think the chance from hitting with the 0.661" is a lot better given the much higher muzzle velocity, but an 85g bullet against a 910g explosive shell? I can't remember the rate of fire being particularly good on the 0.661" either

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Friday, April 3rd 2009, 5:27pm

Originally the BGM1 was supposed to come equipped with three 57mm AA guns. I figured that was a tad much, so I reduced them to 40mm AA guns.

I should note that the Connacht currently has 40mm guns of unknown origin - probably British 2-pounder guns or Atlantean 40mm guns, as I'm also using Atlantean 130mm DP. The .661cal is a possibility, but I prefer to stick with something in the 30mm-40mm range for my heavy AA.

Decisions, decisions...

Well, I'll build the first boat with the Bofors but keep my options open regarding arming them with 2pdrs. I'm solidly sticking to the 40mm for Shannon and the remaining destroyers, but I'll think about the .661.

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Saturday, June 27th 2009, 4:26pm

For laying antisubmarine and torpedo defense nets, but also for maintaining buoys and the like. Should I build one?

[SIZE=3]Carrauntoohil, Irish Net-laying Ship/Boom Defense Vessel laid down 1937[/SIZE]

Displacement:
400 t light; 418 t standard; 565 t normal; 682 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
157.00 ft / 151.00 ft x 30.50 ft x 10.50 ft (normal load)
47.85 m / 46.02 m x 9.30 m x 3.20 m

Armament:
1 - 3.70" / 94.0 mm guns in single mounts, 25.34lbs / 11.50kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose gun in deck mount
on centreline aft
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1937 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
Weight of broadside 26 lbs / 12 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 425

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Conning tower: 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 1,235 shp / 922 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 5,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 264 tons

Complement:
57 - 75

Cost:
£0.118 million / $0.471 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 3 tons, 0.6 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 2 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 34 tons, 6.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 250 tons, 44.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 165 tons, 29.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 110 tons, 19.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,421 lbs / 645 Kg = 56.1 x 3.7 " / 94 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 12.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.47

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.409
Length to Beam Ratio: 4.95 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.29 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 13.52 ft / 4.12 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 8.60 ft / 2.62 m
- Mid (50 %): 8.60 ft / 2.62 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 8.60 ft / 2.62 m
- Stern: 8.60 ft / 2.62 m
- Average freeboard: 8.99 ft / 2.74 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 47.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81.9 %
Waterplane Area: 2,850 Square feet or 265 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 271 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 55 lbs/sq ft or 269 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.31
- Longitudinal: 6.23
- Overall: 1.53
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Saturday, June 27th 2009, 4:38pm

Yes.

You can never have enough small auxillary ships like this to do the dirty work.

Why the CT armour? Seems a waste on a vessel like this.

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Saturday, June 27th 2009, 4:40pm

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Originally posted by Hood
Yes.

You can never have enough small auxillary ships like this to do the dirty work.

Okay then. One Net-layer coming right up!

Quoted

Originally posted by Hood
Why the CT armour? Seems a waste on a vessel like this.

Um, habit for when I enter armour values...