Persian Rifle ideas

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, September 2nd 2008, 10:42pm

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
Some quick research:

Brno produced approximately 150,000 Vz.33 rifles from 1934 to 1942, making about 18,750 per year. Brno also produced 762,000 vz.24 rifles for the Czech army alone, adding 50,800 per year (1924-1939, I figure).

This indicates Brno's production is probably around 70,000 rifles per year at the very least. The Germans also picked up 330,050 Vz.24s from 1939 to 1942, so that's 110,000 rifles per year when under German control.

1936 to mid 1943 445,000 Zb.24 rifles were delivered to Romania (as well as 18,000 Zb.30 LMG 1936-41)

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 4:03am

I found the ZH-29 replacement!

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Brockpaine

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 4:11am

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Originally posted by Vukovlad
I found the ZH-29 replacement!

Yeah Right!

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 4:14am

Hey if RPGs are introduced I want a 1946 Assault rifle

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Brockpaine

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 4:17am

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Originally posted by Vukovlad
Hey if RPGs are introduced I want a 1946 Assault rifle

If you get a 1946 assault rifle, then Chile ought to have an H-bomb.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Brockpaine" (Sep 9th 2008, 4:18am)

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 4:20am

Chile, Chile Hmmm Chile? Is that a country or province of Argentina?

BTW why would Chile be that more advanced?

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thesmilingassassin

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 4:22am

Considering the wars they have fought, most likely.

That said I'm not fond of RPG's at this stage of the sim and apparently others are not as well.

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Brockpaine

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 4:25am

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Originally posted by Vukovlad
Chile, Chile Hmmm Chile? Is that a country or province of Argentina?

BTW why would Chile be that more advanced?

IRL Bulgaria has nuclear reactors, so Chile ought to have the Bomb, particularly with two IRL nuclear powers in close alliance, yanno?

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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Considering the wars they have fought, most likely.

That said I'm not fond of RPG's at this stage of the sim and apparently others are not as well.

Not terribly. I just don't think they'll be effective at this stage.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Brockpaine" (Sep 9th 2008, 4:27am)

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howard

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 5:32am

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Originally posted by Brockpaine

Quoted

Originally posted by Vukovlad
Chile, Chile Hmmm Chile? Is that a country or province of Argentina?

BTW why would Chile be that more advanced?

IRL Bulgaria has nuclear reactors, so Chile ought to have the Bomb, particularly with two IRL nuclear powers in close alliance, yanno?

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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Considering the wars they have fought, most likely.

That said I'm not fond of RPG's at this stage of the sim and apparently others are not as well.

Not terribly. I just don't think they'll be effective at this stage.

Shrug. Rockets worked exactly as designed from 1861 onward. It wasn't the rockets' fault. It was the men.

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 2:09pm

Just to make it clear the TKB-408 is not being seriously proposed, I just liked the modern appearance of such an old weapon

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Vukovlad

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Monday, September 15th 2008, 5:40pm

So a joint ZH-29 replacement or does Persia and Brno have to go it alone?

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howard

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Monday, September 15th 2008, 7:44pm

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Originally posted by Vukovlad
So a joint ZH-29 replacement or does Persia and Brno have to go it alone?

See PM.

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Vukovlad

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Sunday, October 4th 2009, 3:44am

As the Swiss Neuhausen factory heard about Persian plans to replace the ZH-29 with a new selfloading rifle it decided to create a new design to compete for this potential contract

Length: 1068 mm
Weight: 4.26 kg with empty magazine
Barrel length:508 mm (5 groove rifling)
Magazine capacity: 20 rounds
Variants offered: .276 Pedersen, 8mm Rapid

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Brockpaine

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Sunday, October 4th 2009, 4:00am

Looks like a cut-down M14 to me?

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Vukovlad

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Sunday, October 4th 2009, 4:02am

Not even close

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Brockpaine

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Sunday, October 4th 2009, 4:06am

The fore-end doesn't resemble it so much as the receiver. It looks like a flat-out copy of the M1 or M14 receiver. Maybe Mini-14.

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Vukovlad

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Sunday, October 4th 2009, 4:11am

Its not US, any objections to the data?

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perdedor99

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Sunday, October 4th 2009, 7:22am

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Originally posted by Vukovlad
Its not US, any objections to the data?

Looks like a BM-59. Am I correct?

If this is the case I see no issue. India next rifle is basically a copy of examined Garand rifles with a detachable mag and a handgrip.

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Brockpaine

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Sunday, October 4th 2009, 7:47am

If memory serves, the BM59 was originally from re-manufactured Garands, and then manufactured new using the same machinery. At least in my opinion, that makes it a Garand/M14 clone. I think it's too early for a 20-round magazine, though. The rear sighting arrangement is also... odd.

By the way, this would be the third "Swiss" self-loading rifle marketed abroad so far.

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Vukovlad

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Sunday, October 4th 2009, 7:53am

Third? BTW it has nothing to do with any US weapon I just used the .276 Pedersen since its a well known intermediate caliber from this era

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