Le Havre Herald, 24 March 1936

AdmKuznetsov

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Sunday, June 8th 2008, 11:52pm

SS Normandie departs tomorrow for New York, intent on wresting the Blue Riband from RMS Oceanic.

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ShinRa_Inc

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Monday, June 9th 2008, 12:23am

rut roh.

Looks like Oceanic might need to prepare for another speed run...or wait for Olympic II to enter service. (Maiden Voyage currently planned for June 11th).

Decisions, Decisions...

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ShinRa_Inc

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Monday, June 9th 2008, 1:44am

Speaking of;

The Belfast Telegraph
March 28, 1936
TORONTO, ONTARIO

White Star's newest Liner, the replacement Olympic is currently undergoing trials off Belfast in anticipation for acceptance in time for her scheduled June 11th Maiden Voyage from Southampton to New York. Trials are reportedly going well, but with 'some accepted vibration at high speeds'. Curiously, no mention has been made of what exact 'high speeds' Olympic has reached during her trials.

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Monday, June 9th 2008, 3:11am

Bring it...

Marianne is getting close to completion as well, and the White Star Line will go broke fueling Olympic II for only 10,000 tons of paying passengers/cargo.

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ShinRa_Inc

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Monday, June 9th 2008, 3:53am

RE: Bring it...

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Originally posted by AdmKuznetsov
White Star Line will go broke fueling Olympic II for only 10,000 tons of paying passengers/cargo.

Olympic's unlikely to run every voyage at high speed, thus not expected to be as uneconomical as you think. Likewise, with the immigrant trade starting to decline, Olympic is hoped to cash in on enticing more high-paying customers in better accomodations and a reputation for speed, with Oceanic, Brittanic, and Georgic still being available for regular immigrant trade. Similarly, there are plans for sending the ship on an annual World Cruise, among other itineraries.

With the Cunard Queens and the US Line's America soon to enter service (if not already in service), White Star is admittedly taking a gamble in not attempting to directly compete with larger ships with larger overall capacity with the newest ship, but one they feel is well calculated.

Out of curiousity, where did Marianne's name come from?

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Monday, June 9th 2008, 4:05am

Marianne is the personification of France. A fine-looking lady, they say.

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Rooijen10

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Monday, June 9th 2008, 3:47pm

Japan wishes the captain and crew of the SS Normandie the best of luck with their attempt to capture the Blue Riband.

... maybe it is time for me to look at a few more modern liners as well... maybe adding a few features (read: "Special Villain Facilities") from the Flightdeck Casino to them.

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 9:04am

Le Havre Herald, 30 March 1936

SS Normandie arrived today in New York, having recaptured the Blue Riband from Oceanic. She sustained an average speed of 32.32 knots on the passage. Vital to her success in transitting the North Atlantic at such speeds so early in the season was her radio location device, which gave her captain Commodore Eduard Benet confidence that all possible collision hazards would be detected in good time. Normandie will begin her voyage to Le Havre in six days.

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ShinRa_Inc

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 9:38am

Captain Edgar Trant of the Oceanic and Commodore Charles Lightholler of the Olympic send theirs congratulations to Commodore Benet and the Normandie. It may also be of interest to Commodore Benet that Oceanic is scheduled to depart New York on 5 April as well.

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Rooijen10

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 6:40pm

May the best vessel win. I am sure that many people at the Ice Pit will be placing bets as to which vessel will be the fastest across the Atlantic.

*puts money on I-85 submarine lying outside new York, ready to sink both liners*

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thesmilingassassin

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 6:41pm

Good luck hitting them at the speeds they will be running at.

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Rooijen10

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 6:50pm

I seriously doubt that they will be going at full speed right away when they depart from New York. Also you never know what kind of luck the submarine commander will have when it comes to positioning his submarine.

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 6:52pm

In my experience on cruise ships, once they clear the channel, they throttle up. Or in the channel, depending on the local port regulations.

Just remember, White Star Liners have the only merchant kill of a submarine on record. (:

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 6:55pm

Why Japan would be sitting outside New York harbour waiting to torpedo two liners, in peacetime, in American waters, is anyones guess. The Japanese would have to be truely insane to perpetrate such an act against unarmed civilians.

Personally I'd rather put money on one of the liners.

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 6:58pm

Just so long as they don't sink off Ireland. I don't have any ships to come help.

If you want to wait until 1937 for that torpedoing bit, I'll have an Irish destroyer on hand to depth-charge the malefactors.

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 7:10pm

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In my experience on cruise ships, once they clear the channel, they throttle up. Or in the channel, depending on the local port regulations.

I don't doubt that, but it still takes time to get up to speed which I was talking about.

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Just remember, White Star Liners have the only merchant kill of a submarine on record. (:

You'd need a captain like Manzo on the Sub in order to make that two.

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Why Japan would be sitting outside New York harbour waiting to torpedo two liners, in peacetime, in American waters, is anyones guess. The Japanese would have to be truely insane to perpetrate such an act against unarmed civilians.

There is one big problem: who's going to point the finger at Japan when it happens? It is impossible to say which nation in the world will have done it when the submarine cannot be identified (and I doubt that a submarine can be identified when it is submerged).

You know, I was looking at the data for Olympic (II)...

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Length to Beam Ratio: 11.11 : 1

... which is way too high for a vessel >8000 tons...

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 7:16pm

Its not particularly difficult to torpedo a ship travelling on a straight course at a constant speed. As it gets faster you'd need to fan the torpedoes out a bit more, but its still not difficult. In wartime as troopships, the liners adopted a zig-zag and the limited speed of the submarines meant that they couldn't get into position fast enough.

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 7:30pm

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Originally posted by Rooijen10

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Why Japan would be sitting outside New York harbour waiting to torpedo two liners, in peacetime, in American waters, is anyones guess. The Japanese would have to be truely insane to perpetrate such an act against unarmed civilians.

There is one big problem: who's going to point the finger at Japan when it happens? It is impossible to say which nation in the world will have done it when the submarine cannot be identified (and I doubt that a submarine can be identified when it is submerged).

Kinda obvious when the Japanese put odds on a sub torpedoing both liners and rather conveiniently cash in on those bets when it acctually happens.

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Originally posted by Rooijen10 You know, I was looking at the data for Olympic (II)...

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Length to Beam Ratio: 11.11 : 1

... which is way too high for a vessel >8000 tons...

*Places bets on the Olympic breaking in two when she tops out at 40 knots*

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 7:49pm

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Kinda obvious when the Japanese put odds on a sub torpedoing both liners and rather conveiniently cash in on those bets when it acctually happens.

I'm not Japanese. I am Dutch. So if it were to happen, the finger would then be pointing in the direction of the Dutch.