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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
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Originally posted by Rooijen10 You know, I was looking at the data for Olympic (II)...
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Length to Beam Ratio: 11.11 : 1
... which is way too high for a vessel >8000 tons...
*Places bets on the Olympic breaking in two when she tops out at 40 knots*
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ShinRa_Inc" (Jun 10th 2008, 8:12pm)
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Do the Length to beam ratio apply to civilian ships?
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Sinking them will be harder.
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Ocean Liners: These are a special class of merchant ships
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Also, for civilian merchant ships, divide crew and damage survival values by 10 - they have small crews, and lack the extensive compartmentation of naval ships.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Rooijen10" (Jun 10th 2008, 8:37pm)
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Block coefficient: 0.478
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Rooijen10" (Jun 10th 2008, 11:18pm)
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
You know, I was looking at the data for Olympic (II)...
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Block coefficient: 0.478
Seems rather low for a vessel that big... I expect it more to be around 0.6 or more for a liner...
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Rooijen10" (Jun 11th 2008, 4:28pm)
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Now, if the French facilities are good and they offer their tickets for a much lower price, then that might be the end of Olympic. Also if people want to go really fast, they're more likely to travel with an airship across the Atlantic.
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Even worse for Olympic I would say.
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I'm still not convinced Olympic gets a fair shake on passenger complement, as Canis had similar problems trying to use springsharp to design the historical United States (I've never been able to get a decent sim of the Shimakaze, either. SS doesn't handle high speeds well);
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It won't work unless you drop her speed down to 27 knots, and she did over 40 supposedly on trials!
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The maximum speed of the United States was deliberately exaggerated, and kept obscure for many years. An impossible value of 43 knots (49 mph) was leaked to reporters by engineers after the first speed trial. The actual top speed - 38.3 knots (44.1 mph) - was not revealed until 1977.
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As I said previously, the problems you keep listing are ones that face all liners, and will face them all even harder as immigration slows down and competition from the air increases. Better to spend the money on a fast ship that'll be kept full, than a slower ship that'll be half empty. Yes, Olympic might eventually be a loss for White Star, but less of a loss than the slower giants being considered and built.
This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "Rooijen10" (Jun 12th 2008, 10:25pm)
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Conclusion 2: Running the Floating Palace on the Atlantic route will ruin the Olympic and WSL... oh wait! That is just something that happens in my visions.
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
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Conclusion 2: Running the Floating Palace on the Atlantic route will ruin the Olympic and WSL... oh wait! That is just something that happens in my visions.
If we really want to start delving this deep into the intracies of transatlantic economics, I find it hard to believe that the primarily American/European clientele will flock from the presitgious American/European lines to an Asian upstart crewed and owned liner in this time period, plus without a home country to 'base' out of for the route, I suspect the relevant taxes and duties imposed on such a foreign competitor would also do a great deal to reverse your anticipated profit margins, Roo.
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