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Thursday, May 29th 2008, 6:38am

Atlantean artillery

Part 1 AT guns

25/1931
Weight 480 kg
Barrel length 72
Shell AP
Caliber 25 x 193.5 R mm
Rate of fire 15 to 20 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity 918 m/s
Effective range 1000 m

25/1935
Specifications
Calibre 25x194R mm
Weight 300kg
Length 3.71m
Width 1.05m
Height (at shield) 1.10m
Shield thickness 7mm
Barrel length 1.80m
Rate of fire 25 rpm on fixed target
15 rpm on moving target
Traverse 60°
Elevation -5° to +15°
L.711 telescopic sight magnification 4x
Telescopic sight FOV 10.13°
Telescopic sight range 3450m
Muzzle velocity 920 m/s
Maximum effective range 1500m
Armour penetration 40mm/0° at 500m
32mm/35° at 200m
Accuracy 80x80cm at 800m

Under developement

57/36

Calibre 57mm
Barrel length 2565mm / 45 cal
Weight in action 950kg
Elevation -5deg to +25deg
Traverse 60deg
projectile weight 2.75kg
Muzzle velocity 790 m/s
Rate of fire 15 rpm
Maximum effective range 1500m
Armour penetration 71mm at 30deg at 300m

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 3:46am

Part 2 Feild guns

75/27/1914 (based on the French Canon de 75 modèle 1914 Schneider)
Calibre 75mm L36
Barrel length 2720mm
Weight in action 965kg
Traverse 6°
Elevation -11 / + 18
Muzzle velocity 577m/s
Maximum range HE 13000m
Projectile weight 7.25kg
Shells : HE, Shrapnel, solid AP shot.
Rate of fire 12-15/min
Crew 6
Carriage horse-drawn

75/36/1933 (based on the French 76-mm divisional gun M1933)
Caliber 75 mm
Barrel length bore: 3,680 mm / 48.4 calibers (without muzzle brake)
Weight in action 1,620 kg
Elevation -5deg to 37deg
Traverse 54deg
Rate of fire 15 rounds per minute
MV 690-710m/s
Shell weight 6.3-7.1kg
Maximum range 14,600m
Crew 7
Carriage split trail

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 6:46am

Part 3 Medium artillery
105/298/1913 (based on the French 105mm FG Schneider M1913)
A widely used great war field gun. The production model had a standard box tailed carriage, but in the late 1920s split tail Polish carriages became available and have been adopted with pneumatic tires.

Projectile : 15.7kg
Barrel length bore: 2.987 m
MV : 550m/s
Range : 12,000m
Weight : 2.3/2.5tonnes
Elevation : -5 to +37
Traverse: 6deg.
ROF : 2rpm

122/156/1912 (based on the French 122mm field howitzer model 1910/27)
Calibre 121.92mm
Rifling grooves 36
Barrel length 1.560m
Weight in action 1466kg
Weight in the march 2510kg
Elevation -3deg to +44.5deg'
Traverse 5deg
Shell weight 22.93kg
Muzzle velocity 335 m/s
Max range 7681m
Rate of fire 5-6rpm

122/548/1928 (based on the French 122mm M1928)
Caliber 122 mm
Weight combat: 7,250 kg
Barrel length bore: 5,485 mm / 45 calibers
Carriage split trail
Elevation -2deg to 65 deg
Traverse 58 deg
Rate of fire 3-4 rounds per minute
Maximum range 20,400m

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 6:54am

Quoted

Barrel length bore: 2.987 mm

It might be me, but 3 millimeters seems rather short... :D

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 7:06am

Har har, its obviously a typo.

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 1:59pm

RE: Atlantean artillery

Quoted

Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Part 1 AT guns

25/72/1931
Weight 480 kg
Barrel length 72
Shell AP
Caliber 25 x 193.5 R mm
Rate of fire 15 to 20 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity 918 m/s
Effective range 1000 m

25/108/1935
Specifications
Calibre 25x194R mm
Weight 300kg
Length 3.71m
Width 1.05m
Height (at shield) 1.10m
Shield thickness 7mm
Barrel length 1.80m
Rate of fire 25 rpm on fixed target
15 rpm on moving target
Traverse 60°
Elevation -5° to +15°
L.711 telescopic sight magnification 4x
Telescopic sight FOV 10.13°
Telescopic sight range 3450m
Muzzle velocity 920 m/s
Maximum effective range 1500m
Armour penetration 40mm/0° at 500m
32mm/35° at 200m
Accuracy 80x80cm at 800m


OK, the first 25mm is the French 25mm AT gun from history, but what's the second one? It's gained a 50% longer barrel, but lost almost 40% of it's weight, seems an unlikely combination.... And even with the gain in barrel length and a new cartridge case, it doesn't seem to have gained much velocity. (Assuming that the number after the first / is the barrel length.)

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 5:45pm

The second one is the 25mm Puteaux anti-tank gun model 1937.

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 5:54pm

Ah, the 25mm SA 37. Where's the "108" in the Atlantean designation come from, then, it's got a 72 caliber barrel, just like the 25mm SA 34?

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 6:45pm

Its a typo, and wrong too I suppose. Its supposed to be 180, but thats based on barrel length (1.80m). The caliber is listed as 25x194R mm under the French specs.

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Friday, May 30th 2008, 7:27pm

If you were using actual length, vs length in terms of bore, both 25mm AT guns would have the same "180" designation, since they were both 72 caliber weapons. Both weapons also fired the same cartridge, the 25 x 194R mm.

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Saturday, May 31st 2008, 12:55am

I've edited my wordpad file to list both guns as "180's".

Any other nitpicks worth noting?