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I would like to claim the following auxillary ships, all are historical and are ships that served either during or after the Great War. Most older 1800s ships and pre-1905 ships have been removed as obsolete but the rest are mainly Great War types or converted merchants from that time. This is a list for the mods to view. If there are any objections I will remove ships but all of these old ships are due for replacement anyway.

Store Ship
Chatham Ex-Ark Royal,1915, 7,450 tons, 352.5/ 50/ 18 feet, 11kts, complement 180

Destroyer Tenders
Sandhurst ex S.S. Manipur 1915, 11,500 tons, 470/ 58/ 20 feet, 10.5kts, complement 269, 4x 4in 2x 6pdr AA
Greewich 1915, 8600 tons, 390/ 52/ 10.9 feet, 11kts, complement 261, 4x 4in 2x 6pdr AA
Woolwich 1912, 3,380 tons, 320/ 40/ 14.5 feet, 13.5 kts, complement 263, 2x 4in
Diligence 1907 purchased 1913, 7,400 tons, 390/ 46 feet, 14kts, complement 258, 4x 4in

Submarine Tenders
Ambrose 1915, 6,480 tons, 387.9/ 47.6/ 20.5 feet, 14.5 kts, complement 240, 2x 12pdr
Titania 1915, 5,200 tons, 335/ 46.3/ 18.3 feet, 14.5kts, complement 245, no guns
Maidstone 1912, 3,600 tons, 355/ 45/ 17.9 feet, 14kts, complement 159, no guns
Vulcan 1889 rebuilt 1908, 6,620 tons, 350/ 58/ 23.3 feet, 16kts, complement 255, 2x 4in, armour 5in deck amidships, 6in CT and 5in engine hatches

Repair Ships (R.F.A)
Scotstoun 1916, 300 tons, 150/ 31/ 3.3 feet, 7kts, repair ship for Insect and Fly Classes
Reliance 1910 brought 1913, 3,250 tons, 470/ 52 feet, 11 kts
Cyclops ex Indrabarah 1905, 11,300 tons, 460/ 55/ 21 feet, 11kts, 6x 4in, fitted as floating workshop and distilling ship
Thames, Forth 1885-86, 4050 tons, 300/ 46/ 19.2 feet, 12kts, complement 187, fitted as floating workshops
Assistance 1901, 9,600 tons, 436/ 53/ 20 feet, 12 kts, complement 283, 6x 6pdr, fitted as floating workshop and distilling ship
Aquarius 1902, 2,800 tons, 208/ 37.9/ 16 feet, 10.5kts

Salvage Vessels
Reindeer 1884 re-engined 1918, 970 tons, 10 kts,
Racer 1884 rebuilt 1916-17, 970 tons, 11kts, re-engined and equipped with two 17 ton derricks and eight submersible electric, steam centrifugal and compressed air pumps throwing 3000 tons per hour

Oil Tankers (R.F.A)
Petrobus, Petrella, Petronel 1918, 1,024 tons, 164/ 28/ 11.5 feet, 9 kts, all are petroleum carriers
Dredgol (191 3,000 tons, 326/ 52.5/ 18.9 feet, 11 kts
Appleleaf, Brambleleaf, Cherryleaf, Pearleaf, Orangeleaf 1917, 12,270 tons, 405/ 54.5/ 27.5 feet, 14 kts, 5000 tons capacity (Cherryleaf 5400 tons)
Francol, Serbol, Montenol, Belgol, Celerol, Fortol, Prestol, Rapidol, Slavol, Vitol 1917, 4,900 tons, 335/ 41.5/ 20.5 feet, 14 kts, 2000 tons capacity
Birchol, Boxol, Ebonol, Elderol, Elmol, Larchol, Limol, Sprucol, Teakol, Oakol, Palmol 1917, 2,365 tons, 220/ 34/ 12 feet, 9 kts, 1000 tons capacity
Cresol, Distol, Philol, Scotol, Kimmerol, Viscol 1916, 1,920 tons, 220/ 34.5/ 12.5 feet, 9 kts
Mixol, Thermol 1916, 4,145 tons, 270/ 38.5/ 20.3 feet, 11 kts, 2000 tons capacity
Trefoil 1913, 4,060 tons, 280/ 39/ 18.3 feet, 12kts, 2000 tons capacity
Ferol, Servitor 1914, 2,007 tons, 200/ 34/ 13 feet, 8kts, 1000 tons capacity
Attendant, Carol 1913, 1,935 tons, 200/ 34/ 13 feet, 8kts, 1000 tons capacity
Burma 1911, 3,945 tons, 11kts, 2500 tons capacity
Isla 1903 purchased 1907 1,010 tons, 170/ 26/ 12 feet, 10kts, petroleum tanker for submarines

Collier (R.F.A)
Mercedes 1901 purchased 1908, 9,930 tons, 350/ 50.2/ 28 feet, 9 kts, 1603 tons capacity

Royal Yachts
Alexandra 1907, 2,050 tons, 275/ 40/ 12.5 feet, 18kts, complement 173, 2x bronze 7pdr
Victoria and Albert 1899, 4,700 tons, 380/ 40/ 18 feet, 20 kts, complement 335 2x bronze 6pdr

Admiralty Yacht
Enchantress 1903, 3,470 tons, 320/ 40/ 15 feet, 18kts, 4x 3pdr

Survey Ships
Beaufort, Collinson, Fitzroy, flinders, Crozier, Kellet (all converted Hunt Class minesweepers) 800 tons, 231/ 28.5/ 7.5 feet, 1x 3 pdr

Troopships (Colonial Service)
Hardinge 1904, 6,520 tons, 407/ 51/ 19 feet, 18 kts, 6x 4.7in 6x 3pdr, 4x MG
Northbrook 1907, 5,820 tons, 360/ 51.7/ 18 feet, 16 kts, 6x 4in 6x 3pdr
Dufferin 1904, 7,457 tons, 437/ 53/ 19 feet, 19kts, 8x 4in 8x 3pdr

Hospital Ship
Oxfordshire 1912 10,500 tons, 474.6/ 55.6/ 28 feet, 15 kts

Tugs
Saint Class (7): 1918-19, 570 tons, 135.5/ 29/ 14.5 feet, 12 kts
Rollicker Class (5): 1918-19, 1,400 tons, 175/ 34/ 17 feet 14 kts

I have no objection. I've always found the auxilaries issue kinda a fuzzy category, the UK had em, so you likely do as well.

Realize that some may be due for refits...

Ok by us!!

I swear, this dual personality thing is getting worse, both of me think so!!

so it's okay

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Originally posted by Commodore Green
Ok by us!!

I swear, this dual personality thing is getting worse, both of me think so!!

Atlantis, Colombia and Turkey have no problem with it.

Mac you think you have multipul personality's, Kirk and i have you beat!

Nordmark & Coldmere have no objections

Here are some new ships to be built. Just to prove the RN doesn't just build battleships!

Reliant, Resource, Forth, Tyne, Great Britain Destroyer/ Submarine Tender laid down 1936

Displacement:
11,000 t light; 11,292 t standard; 12,560 t normal; 13,574 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
576.97 ft / 570.00 ft x 85.50 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
175.86 m / 173.74 m x 26.06 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
4 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (2x2 guns), 45.00lbs / 20.41kg shells, 1935 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
32 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x8 guns), 2.00lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1922 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 0.66" / 16.8 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.14lbs / 0.06kg shells, 1935 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 247 lbs / 112 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric motors, 4 shafts, 20,000 shp / 14,920 Kw = 21.01 kts
Range 15,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,282 tons

Complement:
593 - 771

Cost:
£2.582 million / $10.327 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 31 tons, 0.2 %
Armour: 11 tons, 0.1 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 11 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 561 tons, 4.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,397 tons, 35.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,560 tons, 12.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6,000 tons, 47.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
25,171 lbs / 11,418 Kg = 552.5 x 4.5 " / 114 mm shells or 3.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 4.9 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 16.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.98

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.451
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.67 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.87 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 36
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Mid (50 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Stern: 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Average freeboard: 23.24 ft / 7.08 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 229.8 %
Waterplane Area: 31,112 Square feet or 2,890 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 170 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 100 lbs/sq ft or 486 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.71
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Reliant and Resource are destroyer tenders equipped with stores, a bakery (25,00lbs of bread per day), two furnaces capable of melting 500lbs at tempratures up to 1,500 degrees, a foundry and machine shops with milling and grinding machines.

Forth and Tyne are submarine tenders equipped with stores, kitchens, a foundry, coppersmiths shop, plumbers shop , carpenters shop, heavy and light machine shops and electrical and torpedo repair shops and plant for charging submarine batteries.



Guardian, Great Britain Netlayer and Target Towing Ship laid down 1936

Displacement:
2,280 t light; 2,335 t standard; 2,445 t normal; 2,533 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
315.36 ft / 310.00 ft x 53.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)
96.12 m / 94.49 m x 16.15 m x 3.66 m

Armament:
2 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (1x2 guns), 31.00lbs / 14.06kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
4 - 0.66" / 16.8 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.14lbs / 0.06kg shells, 1935 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 63 lbs / 28 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 5,000 shp / 3,730 Kw = 18.17 kts
Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 198 tons

Complement:
173 - 225

Cost:
£0.560 million / $2.241 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 8 tons, 0.3 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.1 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 140 tons, 5.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 928 tons, 38.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 164 tons, 6.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,200 tons, 49.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5,276 lbs / 2,393 Kg = 164.9 x 4.0 " / 102 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 14.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.434
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.85 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17.61 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (65 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m (10.00 ft / 3.05 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Stern: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Average freeboard: 16.50 ft / 5.03 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 199.4 %
Waterplane Area: 10,348 Square feet or 961 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 158 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 61 lbs/sq ft or 298 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.89
- Longitudinal: 2.72
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Guardian is equipped for Anti-Submarine Net laying, target towing and general photographic work with extensive darkroom facilties. In wartime mine laying rails can be fitted for 200 mines.