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Thor, Denmark BB laid down 1936

Displacement:
36,871 t light; 38,824 t standard; 41,550 t normal; 43,731 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
821.17 ft / 800.00 ft x 96.00 ft (Bulges 106.00 ft) x 30.00 ft (normal load)
250.29 m / 243.84 m x 29.26 m (Bulges 32.31 m) x 9.14 m

Armament:
9 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1,687.50lbs / 765.44kg shells, 1936 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
24 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (8 mounts), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships, 8 raised guns - superfiring
36 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (18x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 14 raised mounts
48 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (24x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1929 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 16,520 lbs / 7,493 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 472.44 ft / 144.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 91 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
3.94" / 100 mm 472.44 ft / 144.00 m 29.53 ft / 9.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

- Armour deck: 5.51" / 140 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric motors, 4 shafts, 150,284 shp / 112,112 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,906 tons

Complement:
1,454 - 1,891

Cost:
£19.063 million / $76.253 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,065 tons, 5.0 %
Armour: 14,788 tons, 35.6 %
- Belts: 4,221 tons, 10.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 2,032 tons, 4.9 %
- Armament: 2,855 tons, 6.9 %
- Armour Deck: 5,577 tons, 13.4 %
- Conning Tower: 102 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 4,217 tons, 10.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,551 tons, 37.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,679 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 0.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
51,319 lbs / 23,278 Kg = 30.4 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 9.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
Metacentric height 5.2 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 19.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.58
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.572
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.55 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.28 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.00 ft / 8.53 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.00 ft / 5.79 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 20.21 ft / 6.16 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 139.2 %
Waterplane Area: 54,697 Square feet or 5,082 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 198 lbs/sq ft or 965 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.00
- Longitudinal: 1.00
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

A follow on from the Tyr class, 2 ships planned, Thor and Aegir

Secondaries are twins, simmed as triples to allow for greater weight of HA/LA mount

4 Aircraft to be carried, type yet to be decided upon, with catapult on rear deck.

Torpedo bulkhead is a twin layer arrangement, the outer layer being 60mm thick, the inner 40mm, used in conjunction with bulges to enhance survivability.

Electric drive has been chosen again, to give better internal subdivision, having been used successfully in the Tyr class.

My only thought...

JEALOUSY

Though 15" guns will soon be hard pressed to penetrate the 6.5"-8" decks expected soon.

I'd say the guns are even closer to that obsolecence with 1,687 lb shells. Heavier 2,200 lb's shells could be more usefull, though they'll come with a price for the current design.

Otherwise she's a decent design.

Well, Germany's not convinced on the use of 12cm guns as secondaries on capital ships, but that aside, as already noted the 38cm guns are firing pretty light shells for the period, and while the amount of torpedo armor is more than solid, it doesn't seem to be getting you as much protection for the tonnage as I might expect. Depending on where it's intended to operate, the seaboat rating might be a bit lower than desireable, as well.

I wouldn't go for the bulged hull form. More deck space is useful and it'll beef up the torpedo defence as well.

The anti-torpedo bulkhead is rather too thick. You'd probably use 3 compartments given the beam, with 15mm in between and a slightly thicker inboard plate to stop splinters. Maybe 50mm in total. I'd use the weight saved to go with a deeper belt.

The shells fired by the main armament are really quite light, but 381mm is more than sufficient. I'd suggest using Dutch or Italian shells as they are available. The Italian ones are 885kg, and the Dutch 898kg. Any shell is pushed to penetrate deck armour over 5" thick at reasonable ranges.

I wouldn't go with turboelectric drive because theres a large penalty in weight (but not in SS) and marginal improvement, if any in torpedo defence. The ship is more subdivided, but there are far more penetrations between compartments which means flooding spreads a lot easier.

Nordmark's admiral's rub their eyes and instantly authorise some new plans!

The shell size is the default from SS, I didn't realise it was that far off from other shells.

How's this for a second draft.....

The PRO's.....
Belt armour 25% taller
Torpedo bulkhead 11% taller
Deck armour 3.5% thicker
No bulges, Panamax hull
Shells of 898kg x 120 per gun
Seakeeping 9% higher
Survivability (v shells) 16.5% higher
Electric drive replaced with Geared drive

The CON's.....
6.5% heaver (light displacement)
2ft extra draft
Torpedo Bulkhead 50% thinner
Recoil effect up by 22%
Electric drive replaced with Geared drive

Your further thoughts are keenly awaited!!

Thor (c), Denmark BB laid down 1936

Displacement:
39,296 t light; 41,480 t standard; 44,300 t normal; 46,556 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
822.32 ft / 800.00 ft x 106.00 ft x 32.00 ft (normal load)
250.64 m / 243.84 m x 32.31 m x 9.75 m

Armament:
9 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1,979.75lbs / 898.00kg shells, 1936 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
24 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (8x3 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
36 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (18x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 14 raised mounts
40 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (20x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1929 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (2x4 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1936 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 19,150 lbs / 8,686 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 442.91 ft / 135.00 m 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 442.91 ft / 135.00 m 32.81 ft / 10.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
5th: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

- Armour deck: 5.71" / 145 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 155,840 shp / 116,256 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,075 tons

Complement:
1,526 - 1,984

Cost:
£19.626 million / $78.504 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,065 tons, 4.7 %
Armour: 15,584 tons, 35.2 %
- Belts: 5,074 tons, 11.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,058 tons, 2.4 %
- Armament: 2,969 tons, 6.7 %
- Armour Deck: 6,377 tons, 14.4 %
- Conning Tower: 106 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 4,373 tons, 9.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 17,024 tons, 38.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,004 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 0.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
59,362 lbs / 26,926 Kg = 35.2 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 9.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
Metacentric height 6.1 ft / 1.8 m
Roll period: 18.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.71
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.571
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.55 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.28 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 30.00 ft / 9.14 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 21.61 ft / 6.59 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.0 %
Waterplane Area: 60,380 Square feet or 5,610 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 204 lbs/sq ft or 996 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.19
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

A follow on from the Tyr class, 2 ships planned, Thor and Aegir

Secondaries are twins, simmed as triples to allow for greater weight of HA/LA mount

4 Aircraft to be carried, type yet to be decided upon, with catapult on rear deck.

Torpedo bulkhead is a twin layer arrangement, the outer layer being 20mm thick, the inner 30mm.

Love to have it in service right now

A couple of points.

A. Using the default bow of 31.11 feet vs. 30 feet removes the 'wet forward' warning.

B. Unless I'm missing it, you are choosing to skip a transom for a higher speed warship.

C. I am a little concerned about where it will be built and repaired. Looking at the Danish Infrastructure and Q4 SIM report, I don't see any slips or docks over type 3. That would make 220m the longest possible right now.

A 721 ft. x 108 ft x 32 ft ship might work, but you would need to increase the BC to closer to SoDak and increase freeboard to maintain seakeeping- the transom might help keep the weight closer though.

Though I am sure that if you wanted to commence, Iberia/Italy/Netherlands could lay it down while Denmark expanded a drydock.

D) Over all I think the PROs beat the CONs

E) Stability, which apparently has become the 'absorb damage' stat (??) is ok, but not wonderful at 1.06.

F) I'd like to the barbette armor increased slightly.

G) As currently set up, your 37mm and 20mm mounts have 20mm armor shields and sides- enclosed deck mounts, DP mounts for the 37mm. While that makes them immune to light splinters and blast, it also would slow their training rate. If weather proofing is the goal, 5-6mm sides might be adequate.

I drew this some time ago in response to a thread over at 'The Warships Projects Board'. The ship was designed to take out a Richelieu class BB on a maximum standard displacement of 38,000 tons. Given the protection, firepower and speed requirements, it was about the best I could do on 38,000 tons. I think you would agree this ship is close to what Commodore Green is seeking.



Please excuse my lack of a sim here but I still have too little faith in the accuracy of Springsharp.

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Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
Love to have it in service right now

A couple of points.

A. Using the default bow of 31.11 feet vs. 30 feet removes the 'wet forward' warning.

Missed that!

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B. Unless I'm missing it, you are choosing to skip a transom for a higher speed warship.

No, quite deliberate. The transom would save weight and, iirc, save some armour belt lenght, but at the cost of .01 stability, so I didn't think it was worth it.

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C. I am a little concerned about where it will be built and repaired. Looking at the Danish Infrastructure and Q4 SIM report, I don't see any slips or docks over type 3. That would make 220m the longest possible right now.

A 721 ft. x 108 ft x 32 ft ship might work, but you would need to increase the BC to closer to SoDak and increase freeboard to maintain seakeeping- the transom might help keep the weight closer though.

Though I am sure that if you wanted to commence, Iberia/Italy/Netherlands could lay it down while Denmark expanded a drydock.

2 ways I can approach this....
1 - Extend a type 3 to type 4 in 2 quarters and start building in Q3 of 1936
2 - As suggested, get Iberia to start building on Denmarks behalf in Q1 1936, and take a year to get a Danish type 4 into use.
The drydock would be built during the time after the slip completes and the ship enters service. Iberia owes Denmark a favour for starting up their Sub programme.

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D) Over all I think the PROs beat the CONs

I'm inclined to agree

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E) Stability, which apparently has become the 'absorb damage' stat (??) is ok, but not wonderful at 1.06.

It's as high as I could get it, this ship is meant to be a logical follow on from Tyr.

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F) I'd like to the barbette armor increased slightly.

Will try....

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G) As currently set up, your 37mm and 20mm mounts have 20mm armor shields and sides- enclosed deck mounts, DP mounts for the 37mm. While that makes them immune to light splinters and blast, it also would slow their training rate. If weather proofing is the goal, 5-6mm sides might be adequate.

The idea is that it is an armoured tub, with a shield to cover the front of the actual gun mounting. Sufficient protection from splinters etc., and at the sime time, capable of containing to some degree, any ammunition cooking off in the event of a fire.

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Originally posted by BCRenown
I drew this some time ago in response to a thread over at 'The Warships Projects Board'. The ship was designed to take out a Richelieu class BB on a maximum standard displacement of 38,000 tons. Given the protection, firepower and speed requirements, it was about the best I could do on 38,000 tons. I think you would agree this ship is close to what Commodore Green is seeking.



Please excuse my lack of a sim here but I still have too little faith in the accuracy of Springsharp.

I swear that I NEVER saw this ship before.....
The likeness to what I wanted is spooky!!!!

I can't wait until SpringSharp3 is cleared for use......

because Thor just got nastier!!!!

Thor, Denmark BB laid down 1936

Displacement:
40,084 t light; 42,172 t standard; 45,200 t normal; 47,623 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(824.63 ft / 800.00 ft) x 106.00 ft x (32.00 / 33.33 ft)
(251.35 m / 243.84 m) x 32.31 m x (9.75 / 10.16 m)

Armament:
9 - 15.00" / 381 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1,701.89lbs / 771.96kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1936 Model
3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 53.17lbs / 24.12kg shells, 250 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 raised mounts - superfiring
36 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.56lbs / 0.71kg shells, 1,000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
14 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
14 raised mounts
4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
48 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 2,000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
20 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
20 raised mounts
2 x Quad mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 double raised mounts
Weight of broadside 16,236 lbs / 7,364 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 393.70 ft / 120.00 m 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
Ends: 7.87" / 200 mm 131.23 ft / 40.00 m 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
275.07 ft / 83.84 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 76 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 656.17 ft / 200.00 m 32.81 ft / 10.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks: 5.91" / 150 mm For and Aft decks
Forecastle: 3.94" / 100 mm Quarter deck: 3.94" / 100 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 137,824 shp / 102,817 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,451 tons

Complement:
1,549 - 2,014

Cost:
£18.237 million / $72.949 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,768 tons, 6.1 %
Armour: 16,870 tons, 37.3 %
- Belts: 5,246 tons, 11.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,568 tons, 3.5 %
- Armament: 3,381 tons, 7.5 %
- Armour Deck: 6,568 tons, 14.5 %
- Conning Tower: 108 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 3,867 tons, 8.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 16,229 tons, 35.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,116 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 0.8 %
- Hull below water: 50 tons
- Hull above water: 50 tons
- On freeboard deck: 150 tons
- Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
77,318 lbs / 35,071 Kg = 45.8 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 13.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 6.6 ft / 2.0 m
Roll period: 17.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and large transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.583 / 0.590
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.55 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 32.71 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 34.00 ft / 10.36 m, 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 27.00 ft / 8.23 m, 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Aft deck: 35.00 %, 23.00 ft / 7.01 m, 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 22.00 ft / 6.71 m, 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Average freeboard: 24.71 ft / 7.53 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 185.0 %
Waterplane Area: 63,596 Square feet or 5,908 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 196 lbs/sq ft or 959 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.30
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

SS3 is supposed to be fully-functional within a month or so, I heard.

Well, it grew a bit, and the weight of the shells went down again. I'd be wary of the short (length-wise) main belt, even with the fairly heavy end belt there's a lot of hull exposed and not well-protected that could drag her under if it's hit (see SMS Luetzow at Jutland).

I'm looking forward to SS3 as well, it gives some interesting options (for instance, transoms are not necessarily the best choice for even fairly quick ships, and the ability to choose barrel lengths and adjust deck armor over different parts of the ship).

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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
Well, it grew a bit, and the weight of the shells went down again. I'd be wary of the short (length-wise) main belt, even with the fairly heavy end belt there's a lot of hull exposed and not well-protected that could drag her under if it's hit (see SMS Luetzow at Jutland).

I'm looking forward to SS3 as well, it gives some interesting options (for instance, transoms are not necessarily the best choice for even fairly quick ships, and the ability to choose barrel lengths and adjust deck armor over different parts of the ship).

I keep missing the shell weight!!!! DOH!!

I was just curous, so I just plugged the same numbers into SS3......

I think........

Thor (d), Denmark BB laid down 1936

Displacement:
39,048 t light; 41,192 t standard; 44,000 t normal; 46,246 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
823.48 ft / 800.00 ft x 106.00 ft x 32.00 ft (normal load)
251.00 m / 243.84 m x 32.31 m x 9.75 m

Armament:
9 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1,979.75lbs / 898.00kg shells, 1936 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (8x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
36 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (18x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 14 raised mounts
40 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (20x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1929 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (2x4 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1929 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 18,729 lbs / 8,495 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 442.91 ft / 135.00 m 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 442.91 ft / 135.00 m 32.81 ft / 10.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
5th: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

- Armour deck: 5.51" / 140 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 154,937 shp / 115,583 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,054 tons

Complement:
1,518 - 1,974

Cost:
£19.328 million / $77.312 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,012 tons, 4.6 %
Armour: 15,435 tons, 35.1 %
- Belts: 5,073 tons, 11.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,058 tons, 2.4 %
- Armament: 3,064 tons, 7.0 %
- Armour Deck: 6,135 tons, 13.9 %
- Conning Tower: 106 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 4,347 tons, 9.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 16,951 tons, 38.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,952 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 303 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
59,442 lbs / 26,962 Kg = 35.2 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 9.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
Metacentric height 6.1 ft / 1.9 m
Roll period: 18.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.11

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.568
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.55 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.28 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.00 ft / 9.75 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Average freeboard: 21.92 ft / 6.68 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.2 %
Waterplane Area: 60,161 Square feet or 5,589 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 203 lbs/sq ft or 992 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.21
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

A follow on from the Tyr class, 2 ships planned, Thor and Aegir

Secondaries are twins, simmed as triples to assertain extra weight of HA/LA mount, weight then added as misc weight, in this case 53 tons.

4 Aircraft to be carried, type yet to be decided upon, with catapult on rear deck.

Torpedo bulkhead is a twin layer arrangement, the outer layer being 20mm thick, the inner 30mm.

Barbettes are perhaps a bit lightly armored. Also, do you mean for the two quad-20mm mounts to be amidships?

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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
Barbettes are perhaps a bit lightly armored. Also, do you mean for the two quad-20mm mounts to be amidships?

Which barbettes? main or secondary?

Top of B and X turrets.....

Main barbettes, if anything the secondary barbettes are surprisingly heavy compared to the mountings themselves.

If they're supposed to be on the turret tops, I'd code them as centerline ends, not centerline amidships.