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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 7:58am

Bulgaria Request for Proposal

The Bulgarian Air Force has lately been determined to be completely inadequate for national defense purposes. The current aircraft serving in key roles need immediate replacement, and the Air Force is looking at immediate purchases from abroad.

Fighter Interceptor
Bulgaria is looking to purchase several squadrons worth of single-engine fighters. The entries must have:
- An armament of at least two .50 caliber
- Single engine
- Enclosed cockpit
- Retractable undercarriage
- A speed of preferably 550 kph (340 mph) or greater
- Climb rate of no less 13 m/s (2,559 feet per minute)

Dive Bomber
Bulgaria is looking for a two-seat, single-engine dive bomber. The entries must have:
- A bomb carriage weight of no less than 1,000 pounds, with 1,500 pounds being ideal.
- Airspeed of preferably 360 kph (223.7 mph) or greater
- Retractable undercarriage
- Capability for an arrestor hook
- A range of 1,600 km (994 miles)

The Air Force will announce when it has determined upon a suitable aircraft.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Brockpaine" (Feb 3rd 2008, 7:59am)


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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 12:00pm

For the fighter/Interceptor request, BFW offers the Bf-109B, which meets or exceeds all the required parameters.


Also for the fighter/interceptor request, Heinkel offers the He-112, with either the Jumo-211 or the DB-601 engine, which will also meet or exceed all required parameters.

As for the dive bomber request, that is rather more difficult (due to the requirement for a retractable undercarriage). Heinkel offers the He-118, which meets most of the parameters as is but will need some modifications if the range requirement and the desire for an arrestor hook are to be met (the He-118 has a range of 1250 km and no arrestor hook, though it does carry it's 500 kg of bombs in an internal bay).

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Hrolf Hakonson" (Feb 3rd 2008, 12:23pm)


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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 12:17pm

Italy offers the Macchi C.200 or Fiat CR.35 with stats in this thread. Their current 4x7.7mm armament should be able to be replaced by 2 x 12.7mm or 2 x 13.2mm guns

Dive bombers are problematical because of construction constraints.

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 12:30pm

Britain can offer the following.

Supermarine Spitfire; monoplane fighter with the new RR Merlin and armed with eight 7.7mm Browning MGs, first flight for October 1935 (might be a bit earlier).
Dimensions; 36.10/29.11/12.7/242 sq ft; 1x 1030hp RR Merlin I; max speed 346mph at 15,000ft; range 600 miles and service ceiling 35,000ft.

No room for bigger MGs but current RAE research suggests such a concentration of firepower should be devestating to any current fighter or bomber.

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 1:34pm

Atlantis can offer the following:

Single engine fighters
Accrisius Ac-15 Aves, under developement



Ripon-Bloch RB. 132 (F-11) "Renegade"




In addition an improved version of the Corsair with a retractable undercarriage is in the works, very similar to the following....

Spartan SP-20 "Corsair"



A rough rendition of the retractable geared version.


For dive bombers....

Accrisius DBN-1 "Banshee", Carrier based dive bomber - 1935.



Stats for these and other designs can be veiwed here: http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?threadid=1311&sid=

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 5:39pm

Australian Aviation offers the following:

While being slightly under the speed requirments, the plane is cheaper than comparable competidors and is easy to mantain.



AA-5 Centaur

Power: Rolls-Royce 870hp Peregrine

Armament: Four 7.62/0.3in machine guns

Size: Wingspan - 29ft
Length - 25ft
Wing area - 170sq ft

Weight: Empty - 3200lb
Max take-off - 3900lb

Performance: Max speed - 330mph
Ceiling - 33,000ft
Range - 500 miles
Climb - 3300ft per minute

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 6:00pm

The full range of Belgian-Dutch export aircraft is here : Dutch Export

Planes which can meet your requirements include several fighters. The only Dive Bomber offering comes up slightly short on range, but is otherwise quite capable.

Atlantic A-10A
1935 monoplane dive/torpedo bomber
Carrier
Crew : 2
Powerplant : Pratt & Whitney 1830-S1B3G
Armament : Equipped with 2 x 7.92mm MGs and a dorsal turret with 2 7.92mm MGs, radio.
Armor : 10mm armor disk
Payload : 1,815 lbs
Range : 756nm at 155kts
Rate of climb : 1,250 fpm
Loaded Stall speed : 61kts
Ceiling : 25,000 ft
Max speed : 217kts (250 mph)
Corner speed : 196kts, 29.1 deg/ sec
Weight (max) : 9,650 lbs
Cost : $29,000
Wing Span: 50 ft Length: 33 ft. Wing Area: 456 ft2
Wingloading : 21lbs/ ft2 loaded

Fokker
Fokker Avia
B.135 fighter

Specifications (B-135)
General characteristics

Crew: one pilot
Length: 8.50 m (27 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 10.85 m (35 ft 8 in)
Height: 2.60 m (8 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 17.0 m² (183 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,063 kg (4,548 lb)
Gross weight: 2,547 kg (5,615 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Avia 12Ycrs, 640 kW (860 hp)
Performance

Maximum speed: 535 km/h (332 mph)
Range: 550 km (340 miles)
Service ceiling: 8,500 m (27,890 ft)
Rate of climb: 13.5 m/s (2,660 ft/min)
Armament

1 × 20 mm MG FF cannon
2 × 7.92 mm wz.30 machine guns



Fokker D.XXb
1934-5 monoplane fighter
stats are for clean
Rough Field
Crew : 1
Powerplant : 1 x 940hp Hispano-Suiza 12Y-49
Armament : forward 4x7.92mm MG, 1x 20mm cannon, radio.
Armor : none
Payload : up to 50kg (140lbs)
Range : 300nm at 160kts
Rate of climb : 3,153 fpm clean
Loaded Stall speed : 62 kts
Ceiling : 42,000 ft
Max speed : 315kts (362 mph) @ 15,000 feet.
Corner speed : 253kts, 27.6 deg/ sec @ 15,000
Weight (max) : 4,400 lbs
Weight, normal clean : 4,258 lbs
Cost : $19,000 each
Wing Span: 35.3 ft Length: 25.9 ft. Wing Area: 193 ft2
Wingloading : 22.8lbs/ft2 loaded, 22.1 lbs/ft2 normal clean

Fokker D.XXI
1934 monoplane fighter
wesworld all-metal, retractable gear, update of classic
stats are for 6x MG, no bombload
Rough Field
Crew : 1
Powerplant : 1 x 995hp Mercury XV
Armament : forward 6x7.92mm MG, radio.
Armor : 10mm disk behind pilot
Payload : up to 250kg (580lbs)
Range : 502nm at 155kts
Rate of climb : 3,106 fpm clean
Loaded Stall speed : 69 kts
Ceiling : 41,000 ft
Max speed : 302kts (347 mph) @ 15,000 feet.
Corner speed : 280kts, 27.6 deg/ sec @ 15,000
Weight (max) : 5,070 lbs
Weight, normal clean : 4,483 lbs
Cost : $24,000 each
Wing Span: 36.1 ft Length: 26.9 ft. Wing Area: 174 ft2
Wingloading : 29.1lbs/ft2 loaded, 25.7 lbs/ft2 normal clean


Koolhoven F.K. 57
designed as a light fighter with a reliable engine
Rough Field
Crew : 1
Power: 718hp Jumo 210G
Armament: Six 7.92mm machine guns

Size: Wingspan : 29.5 ft
Length : 22ft
Wing area : 148sq ft

Weight: Empty : 3,073lb
Max take-off : 3,700lb

Performance: Max speed : 340mph
Ceiling - 40,000ft
Range : 454 nautical miles
Climb : 2,890ft per minute
Cost : $21,000
Wingloading : 25lbs/ft2

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Feb 3rd 2008, 6:02pm)


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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 6:26pm

Speaking of Fokker designs, there are follow ons to the D.XXI [url=http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3514.0.html]here[/url] with pictures but no data unfortunately. The modifications involved slapping in Hercules, Merlin and DB600 engines in place of the Mercury.

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 6:29pm

Gothia Works offers its Type 105


Basic Data:

Type: Single Seat Fighter

Engine: 1 x GWM V-1300 1300Hp
Dimensions:

Span: 9,92 m
Length: 9 m
Height: 2,59 m

Other non classified data

Max. speed: 620 km/h @ 6000 m
Max. Climb 14m/sec
Max. range 900 km
Empty: 2860 kg
Max Loaded 3750 kg

Armament: 4 x 12,7 mm MG, 1 x 20mm Cannon
up to 500lbs of bombs or drop tank on center fuselage rack and up to 125lbs under each wing

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 6:42pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Red Admiral
Speaking of Fokker designs, there are follow ons to the D.XXI [url=http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3514.0.html]here[/url] with pictures but no data unfortunately. The modifications involved slapping in Hercules, Merlin and DB600 engines in place of the Mercury.


Pictures didn't come up in either Firefox or Explorer :(
But thanks for the try RA. The D.XXI here is close to the original, with the improved streamlining and slightly later Mercury engine. I think I nudged up the wing thickness also to avoid needing gunpods for cannon.

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 8:21pm

Sorry, you have to register and log in to see the pictures as they are there as attachments. The site is definitely worth registration if only for the pictures.

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 10:41pm

After reviewing the current offerings, Bulgaria will be looking more closely at:

Fighter Interceptor
- Supermarine Spitfire
- Accrisius Ac-15 Aves
- Bf109B
- AA-5 Centaur

Dive Bomber
- Accrisius DBN-1 "Banshee"
- Atlantic A-10A

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Sunday, February 3rd 2008, 11:44pm

The SAE may offer

JFM F-6B "Swollow" as single-seat fighter

and

JFM DB-4B "Mosquito" as dual-seat dive bomber

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Monday, February 4th 2008, 9:17pm

The Bulgarian Air Force has elected to purchase 72 Bf109Bs from Germany for delivery starting October 1935, and continuing into 1936. More aircraft will most likely be purchased in 1937, and rumor among Air Force officials indicates 1937 purposes might be for Merlin-powered Spitfires.

A decision about the dive-bomber requirements will come soon.

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Monday, February 4th 2008, 9:30pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Brockpaine
The Bulgarian Air Force has elected to purchase 72 Bf109Bs from Germany for delivery starting October 1935, and continuing into 1936. More aircraft will most likely be purchased in 1937, and rumor among Air Force officials indicates 1937 purposes might be for Merlin-powered Spitfires.

A decision about the dive-bomber requirements will come soon.



Damn I was working on an Eclipse Aviation Proposal ^.^ oh well ill finish it and post it it will be somthing wierd I promise

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Monday, February 4th 2008, 11:49pm

..and just to make the Bulgarian choice harder Accrisius has another design.


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Tuesday, February 5th 2008, 8:14am

The Bulgarian Air Force has elected to purchase 18 Accrisius DBN-1 Banshees and 18 DB Seriea dive bombers.

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Tuesday, February 5th 2008, 5:27pm

Done and done.