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Saturday, January 12th 2008, 1:18pm

[SIZE=3]Gothia Works Land Division [/SIZE]

Due to negotiations of the Sale of Gothia Works Aircraft Division, Land Division and China branch is ongoing with Kanzaki Heavy Industries, Nanchan Aircraft Manufacturing Company, Guizhou Aviation Group and TUNG MENG Ltd no further orders are accepted. For high quality products please contact one of the mentioned companies.

Armored Vehicles

Veles A

16 Ordered to Date
Chile: 16

Veles B

Weight 14 tonnes
Length 4,90 m
Width 2.47 m
Height 2.16 m
Crew 4
Armor 1535 mm
Primary
armament up to 2x20mm Automatic Cannons (A)
up to 45mm Cannon
Secondary
armament 1×~8mm MM
Engine GWM STD-300, 300Hp V-6 Diesel
Power/weight 21 hp/tonne
Suspension leaf-spring double-bogie mounted on two axles.
Operational
range 220 km
Speed 60 km/h

36 Ordered to Date
Japan (JP1 variant: 25mm Type 95 + 7.7mm Type 94): 20
Chile: 16

Legionaire

Weight 24tons
Length 6.21m
Width 2.34m
Height 2.58m
Crew 4
Engine 1x GWM STD-380, 380 Hp V-8 Diesel

Performance 42km/h
Armament 75mm L26 Cannon
3x~ 8mm MG
Suspension Horstmann suspension
Operational
range 200 km
Armor: 15-50mm

56 Ordered to Date
Japan (JP1 variant: 75mm L26 gun + three 7.7mm Type 94): 40
Chile: 16

Legionaire K
[SIZE=1](Specialized Command Variant)[/SIZE]

4 Ordered to Date
Chile: 4

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Hrolf Hakonson

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Saturday, January 12th 2008, 1:23pm

Twin 20mm cannon? Probably better served, for the purposes listed, with a 20mm and a standard rifle-caliber MG, for those targets that can be dealt with by the smaller weapon or for whom the cannon is not a Hague-appropriate weapon.

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Vukovlad

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Saturday, January 12th 2008, 1:59pm

Final armament will of course be left to the customer, should they wish 1x20mm and 1x12,7/~8mm or other combinations
that is their choice. We later hope to introduce a new 37mm cannon turret

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Hrolf Hakonson

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Saturday, January 12th 2008, 2:01pm

That would probably be a good choice. If the idea is that the turret can be fitted with up to 2 20mm cannon, that might be a better way to advertise it. If that is the case, then replacing 1 20mm with a 37m and the other with an MG should be easy enough.

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Vukovlad

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Saturday, January 12th 2008, 2:12pm

Perhaps something for the German armed forces?

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Hrolf Hakonson

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Saturday, January 12th 2008, 2:19pm

At this time, the Heer is already buying Panzer IIs, which fill the same role as the 20mm armed tank, along with the new Panzer III (armed with a 50m gun) and the new Panzer IV (armed with a 75mm howitzer). It seems unlikely that the Heer will change in the next few years.

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, January 12th 2008, 2:20pm

It seems a bit tall, might have stability problems. It might be an idea to lengthen the wheelbase so the driving sprocket has more room to turn. Whats the suspension system? Vertical springs?

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Vukovlad

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Saturday, January 12th 2008, 2:45pm

The height is to achieve high elevation for use in mountinous terrain.

The suspension is leaf-spring double-bogie mounted on two axles.

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Ithekro

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Monday, January 14th 2008, 12:30am

Chile is looking for armor and aircraft that can fuction in high altitude conditions (Andeas Mountains and high plains regions)...as well and is hot and humid conditions (Southern Bolivia/Gran Chaco)

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Vukovlad

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Monday, January 14th 2008, 12:35am

We have both the will and ability to provide you with what you need. Could you please inform us on what armament you would prefer for the Veles and please visit our aircraft exhibition for aircraft. GW is also prepared to offer license deals should those be preferred

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Ithekro

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Monday, January 14th 2008, 8:35am

Presently Chile is using Atlantean 37mm cannons and their 75mm short barreled cannons in a few tanks. While these are good designs, they are not up to work in hot, humid, high altitute climates. 37mm cannon would be idea for a tank and the .50 caliber machine gun for lighter armor. A 47mm or 57mm might be asked for to evaluate at a later date, if the 37mm standard version fuctions in the required conditions.

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Kaiser Kirk

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Monday, January 14th 2008, 5:42pm

Overall, I've liked your images, but the tanks just looks far to short. Or the turret is far to large. Probably the latter as a smaller turret would make the rest look larger in comparison.
Take this one-
Imagine a man sitting in the front- not much room, two standing in the turret basket. An engine in the rear- all very cramped,and thats before fuel, ammo, drive train, suspension, etc.

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Vukovlad

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Monday, January 14th 2008, 6:01pm

The turret maybe to big and that is becuase it is intended as a SPAAG from the begining. I felt that it would be to early to introduce these in this time frame.

(by Mark Sheppard)

As you can see it is based on the LT-38/Hetzer chassi

Modified 45mm tank

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Kaiser Kirk

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Monday, January 14th 2008, 7:04pm

That looks more appropriate for the 45mm tank- closer to the size of the Russian T-60.

I like the top down view. It probably is a little early for a fully enclosed twin SPAAG. However with Wesworld being 3-5 years ahead in aviation, you see creep into anti-aircraft fields, so less advanced forms may crop up "soon", or may have already and I haven't noticed.

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Originally posted by Ithekro
Chile is looking for armor and aircraft that can fuction in high altitude conditions (Andeas Mountains and high plains regions)...as well and is hot and humid conditions (Southern Bolivia/Gran Chaco)

While only a storyline matter (no material sim-changes) the Kongo's fighter evaluation was held adjacent to a tropical swamp and yielded the D.XXI, largely due to the well-developed mercury engine. She does have spare weight, which could be devoted to specialised radiators if you wish

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Ithekro

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Tuesday, January 15th 2008, 1:02am

How would it handle the required climate and altitudes?

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, January 15th 2008, 1:27am

This is still early in the design process but if it is designed for hot, sandy and high conditions from the outset we foresee no problems. it would ofcourse help significantly if we were allowed to set up facilities in Chile.

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Hrolf Hakonson

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Tuesday, January 15th 2008, 1:32am

It's really too early for a 75mm gun tank, at least one that has a long enough barrel and high enough velocity to want or require a muzzle brake.

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Ithekro

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Tuesday, January 15th 2008, 1:40am

True. the 75mm guns in use in at this time are short barrelled guns...very short.

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, January 15th 2008, 1:49am

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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
It's really too early for a 75mm gun tank, at least one that has a long enough barrel and high enough velocity to want or require a muzzle brake.

Revised design posted.

What is the policy on historical designs? Use any that aren´t taken or only those from the country you play?

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, January 15th 2008, 6:42pm

Proposed Data Veles A & B Light Tanks:

Weight 14 tonnes
Length 4,90 m
Width 2.47 m
Height 2.16 m
Crew 4
Armor 1535 mm
Primary
armament up to 2x20mm Automatic Cannons (A)
up to 45mm Cannon
Secondary
armament 1×~8mm MM
Engine GWM STD-300, 300Hp V-6 Diesel
Power/weight 21 hp/tonne
Suspension leaf-spring double-bogie mounted on two axles.
Operational
range 220 km
Speed 60 km/h

Comments Welcome

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