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Kaiser Kirk

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Sunday, March 11th 2007, 1:50am

Like, Bomber dude!

Recently Nordmark put out a request for bombers. The medium bomber request I found I could meet by expanding my T.VIIIW design, a descendant of the T.V.

The heavy bomber was far more ploblematic. In 1934 Fokker had the Design 115, based on the F.36 airliner. Trimming the giant wing and the plane met the range & speed, and almost the height, but failed the bomb load. These two designs are powered by Avia's versions of the Bristol Pegasus radial, and so should need little alteration to fit the Spartan.

So it got reworked to a much larger plane, Design 119, that meets the bomb load & range has room for expansion, but doesn't meet the speed or height requirements. However performance figures are based on the Jumo 211A, which is an immature engine and so performance specs can be expected improve with the mature engine.

T.VII Medium Bomber



General Type:
Airplane = 1
Airship = 2
Orbiter = 3
1

Year of First Flight: 1934

Description

Carrier or Rough Field
Monoplane
Conventional Fuselage

Fokker T.VII landbomber. . Equipped with 2 twin 7.92mm MGs in power turrets dorsal/ventral, and singles in nose/tail.



Characteristics:

Weight (maximum) 19,500 lbs
Weight (empty) 10,401 lbs

Length 44 ft
Wingspan 69 ft
Wing Area 490 sq ft
Sweep 2 degrees

Engines 2
Avia Pegasus
Piston

965 hp
at 13,000 ft


Crew 6


Typical cost $0.046 million in 1934
Total number procured 160


Performance:

Top Speed 240 kts = 276 mph
at 13,000 ft
Mach N/A

Operational Ceiling 27,000 ft

Range 1,200 nm = 1,382 miles
with 4,372 lbs payload
4,786 lbs released at halfway point

Climb 946 fpm

Cruise 170 kts = 196 mph
at 13,000 ft

Corner Speed 240 KIAS =
292 kts at 13,000 ft
Mach N/A
Turning Rate 20.8 deg/sec
Radius 2,722 ft



Internal Data:

Intake / Fan Diameter 8 ft

Bypass Ratio 82.1

Engine Weight 1180 lbs
Overall Efficiency 23 percent

Structural Factor 1.00

Number of Wings 1
Number of Fuselages 1

Limiting Airspeed 261 kts
Wing Ultimate g Load 9.00 g
Wing Taper 0.3
Wing Thickness at Root 2.6 ft

Tail / Canard Factor 0.4

Number of Nacelles 2
Length 11 ft
Diameter 4.6 ft
Fullness 0.3

Fuselage Diameter 4.8 ft
Fuselage Fullness 0.45

Pressurized Volume 0 percent
Cargo Decks 0

Cleanness 79 percent
Unstreamlined section 5.1 sq ft

User equipment 1,505 lbs

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Design 115 Heavy Bomber



General Type:
Airplane = 1
Airship = 2
Orbiter = 3
1

Year of First Flight: 1934

Description

Carrier or Rough Field
Monoplane
Conventional Fuselage

Fokker bomber adaptation of F.XXXVI civil airliner, updated. Single Nose/tail turrets, twin dorsal and ventral turrets, all 7.92mm MG.



Characteristics:

Weight (maximum) 36,377 lbs
Weight (empty) 20,755 lbs

Length 77.42 ft
Wingspan 104 ft
Wing Area 1,212 sq ft
Sweep 4 degrees

Engines 4
Avia Pegasus
Piston

965 hp
at 12,000 ft


Crew 5


Typical cost $0.101 million in 1934
Total number procured 160


Performance:

Top Speed 230 kts = 265 mph
at 12,000 ft
Mach N/A

Operational Ceiling 29,000 ft

Range 1,620 nm = 1,865 miles
with 6,178 lbs payload
7,019 lbs released at halfway point

Climb 1,077 fpm

Cruise 151 kts = 174 mph
at 12,000 ft

Corner Speed 198 KIAS =
237 kts at 12,000 ft
Mach N/A
Turning Rate 22.7 deg/sec
Radius 2,024 ft



Internal Data:

Intake / Fan Diameter 8 ft

Bypass Ratio 82.1

Engine Weight 1180 lbs
Overall Efficiency 23 percent

Structural Factor 1.00

Number of Wings 1
Number of Fuselages 1

Limiting Airspeed 268 kts
Wing Ultimate g Load 8.00 g
Wing Taper 0.3
Wing Thickness at Root 4.2 ft

Tail / Canard Factor 0.4

Number of Nacelles 4
Length 8 ft
Diameter 4.8 ft
Fullness 0.4

Fuselage Diameter 6.48 ft
Fuselage Fullness 0.4

Pressurized Volume 0 percent
Cargo Decks 0

Cleanness 79 percent
Unstreamlined section 10.1 sq ft

User equipment 1,505 lbs

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Design 119 Heavy Bomber

General Type:
Airplane = 1
Airship = 2
Orbiter = 3
1

Year of First Flight: 1934

Description

Carrier or Rough Field
Monoplane
Conventional Fuselage

Fokker bomber adaptation of F.XXXVI civil airliner, updated. Single Nose / tail turrets, twin dorsal and ventral turrets, all 7.92mm. 10,000lb bombload. Structure is built to take +4,100lbs in future expansion, which is expected to be heavier arms and armor . Current max weight 62,486



Characteristics:

Weight (maximum) 66,700 lbs
Weight (empty) 36,949 lbs

Length 78 ft
Wingspan 124 ft
Wing Area 2,160 sq ft
Sweep 3 degrees

Engines 4
Jumo 211A
Piston

1,085 hp
at 13,000 ft


Crew 6


Typical cost $0.186 million in 1936
Total number procured 160


Performance:

Top Speed 209 kts = 240 mph
at 13,000 ft
Mach N/A

Operational Ceiling 21,000 ft

Range 1,620 nm = 1,865 miles
with 14,153 lbs payload
15,937 lbs released at halfway point

Climb 474 fpm

Cruise 150 kts = 173 mph
at 13,000 ft

Corner Speed 219 KIAS =
266 kts at 13,000 ft
Mach N/A
Turning Rate 24.3 deg/sec
Radius 2,118 ft



Internal Data:

Intake / Fan Diameter 9 ft

Bypass Ratio 88.8

Engine Weight 1687 lbs
Overall Efficiency 23 percent

Structural Factor 1.00

Number of Wings 1
Number of Fuselages 1

Limiting Airspeed 261 kts
Wing Ultimate g Load 9.00 g
Wing Taper 0.3
Wing Thickness at Root 3.7 ft

Tail / Canard Factor 0.4

Number of Nacelles 4
Length 8 ft
Diameter 3.4 ft
Fullness 0.4

Fuselage Diameter 4.9 ft
Fuselage Fullness 0.45

Pressurized Volume 0 percent
Cargo Decks 0

Cleanness 79 percent
Unstreamlined section 7.2 sq ft

User equipment 1,500 lbs

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Mar 11th 2007, 8:53am)


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Sunday, March 11th 2007, 12:04pm

What´s the photo from?

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Sunday, March 11th 2007, 12:09pm

The photo looks like the T-5.

Kaiser Kirk

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Sunday, March 11th 2007, 6:22pm

Close, the T.V's successor, the T.IX.
There's just not a lot of OTL dutch medium bombers to choose from.
http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Mili…0Aircrafts.html