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Kaiser Kirk

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Thursday, March 1st 2007, 2:38am

Reworked C.VIII

Edit : damn squares.

Back when I started planebuilder, one of the designs I tried to do was the Fokker-America all-metal XA-7, and what I got was something of a dog, but did the job.

I went back and poked at it to see if it had life, and discovered that the problem seemed to be I had managed to wind up with a colossal wing.

So I tinkered with it, and while it still doesn't sparkle, but it was supposed to be a very conventional design in the first place. I'd like to substitute the reworked plane for the stats previously posted under Netherlands Air Force. Since we now post all designs here, I thought I should to see if there are objections. I am still working on my 1934 aircraft, they will be along in a bit.

The Old C.VIII
Fokker-America C.VIII (XA0-7)
1933 monoplane all metal attack bomber
rough field
Crew : 2  pilot & observer-rear gunner
Powerplant : 768hp Hispano-Suiza 12Y
Armament: 4 forward firing 7.92mm MG and 1 flexible 13.2mm. HMG for the rear gunner plus provisions for 488 lbs of bombs mounted on wing racks. 10mm radio.
Armor : 10mm disk
Range : 500nm at 147 knts
Rate of climb : 623 fpm at 100kts
Stall speed : 54kts
Ceiling : 20,750
Max speed : 174kts (200 mph)
Corner Turn rate :: 32.9 degrees/sec
Manuever Turn rate : 8.3 degrees/sec
Weight (max) : 8,000 lbs
Weight (min) : 6,599 lbs
Cost : $40,000
Wing Span: 13.4m Length: 9.7 Wing Area: 57.5m2

Performance stripped : 187kts (215mph), 1,170 fpm rate of climb
(Source: Planebuilder)


Aircraft Type or Name:

C.VIII

General Type:
Airplane = 1
Airship = 2
Orbiter = 3
1

Year of First Flight: 1932

Description

Carrier or Rough Field
Monoplane
Conventional Fuselage

Update of Fokker-America XA-7 entry. Includes 50lbs for radio and 50 for dive brakes. 4x 7.92MG forward, 1 ring mount 7.92mm MG rear.



Characteristics:

Weight (maximum) 7,716 lbs
Weight (empty) 4,878 lbs

Length 31.9 ft
Wingspan 44 ft
Wing Area 297 sq ft
Sweep 5 degrees

Engines 1
Wright Cyclone 9 SR-1820-33
Piston

775 hp
at 12,000 ft


Crew 2


Typical cost $0.030 million in 1932
Total number procured 32


Performance:

Top Speed 210 kts = 242 mph
at 12,000 ft
Mach N/A

Operational Ceiling 24,500 ft

Range 540 nm = 622 miles
with 1,592 lbs payload
1,675 lbs released at halfway point

Climb 882 fpm

Cruise 150 kts = 173 mph
at 12,000 ft

Corner Speed 235 KIAS =
282 kts at 12,000 ft
Mach N/A
Turning Rate 28.9 deg/sec
Radius 1,887 ft



Internal Data:

Intake / Fan Diameter 7.6 ft

Bypass Ratio 86.15

Engine Weight 1333 lbs
Overall Efficiency 22 percent

Structural Factor 1.00

Number of Wings 1
Number of Fuselages 1

Limiting Airspeed 250 kts
Wing Ultimate g Load 12.00 g
Wing Taper 0.4
Wing Thickness at Root 2 ft

Tail / Canard Factor 0.42

Number of Nacelles 0
Length 7 ft
Diameter 4 ft
Fullness 0.4

Fuselage Diameter 4.8 ft
Fuselage Fullness 0.55

Pressurized Volume 0 percent
Cargo Decks 0

Cleanness 65 percent
Unstreamlined section 2.3 sq ft

User equipment 500 lbs

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Mar 1st 2007, 3:01am)


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Thursday, March 1st 2007, 3:32am

I think that as long as they are historical and within 2 years, dont bother posting the specs. Only do that if the design is unconventional (FW-42), own design (C-5 Halcon), or 3 or more years ahead.

Kaiser Kirk

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Thursday, March 1st 2007, 5:38am

You could be right Fox, but my interpretation is post all with the presumed exception of strictly historical.

In 1934 I'll probably have I've got the D.XIXb, G.1 a-c, C.XIW, D.23, FK55, T.VIIIW, maybe the Do.18K and maybe something else slated to fly or prototype. Most of which will be variations on historical craft, but not strictly historic.

In this case the plane has the rough dimensions of the historical, has somewhat advanced cleanness, and a bigger engine pulling a bigger overall plane. Not exactly historic.

Originally it was a good storyline element to not only provide an attack plane, but also illustrate Fokker's transition to all-metal construction by leaning on Fokker-America (and Avia).