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Sunday, February 25th 2007, 4:35pm

Argentine Carrier Design Contest

The Naval Staff has issued an Operational -Tactical Requirement (OTR) for a light aircraft carrier. The OTR has been sent to the Naval Constructors Board and the Scientific-Technical Research Committee. A pre-design sketch by a Project Design Team has been evaluated by the Naval Constructors Board and Scientific-Technical Research Committee. A Technical-Tactical Requirement (TTR) has now been released to external companies. The home-grown design is the Project 702 (marked Top Secret and not available to view). An export design is to be designated Project 703.

Desired Specifications

Size: preferably no longer than 170m but up to 200m considered. 170m perferred for home construction.
Displacement: No greater than 16,000 tons normal
Speed: 30kts minimum and 32kts preferred
Range: 8000-1000 miles @ 15kts
Armament: Must be armed with the 115mm DP gun (25.00kg shell) with turret (50/25/30mm armour). 130 and 100mm guns might be considered. Must have at least four quad 37mm and four sextuple 20mm mounts and others as singles
Air Group: Must carry 36 aircraft, space for 40 preferred for growth
Hangar Height: Must be 18 ft (5.5m) high, single or doubel-decker hangars considered
Armour: Light but able to resist destroyer fire, belt and deck (hangar floor) armour required and torpedo protection if possible.

If all designs prove unaccpetable a new Technical - Tactical Requirement will be issued.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Hood" (Feb 25th 2007, 4:35pm)


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Sunday, February 25th 2007, 5:51pm

Australia offers the following design based on HMAS Enterprise.




Export 1, Australia Light Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
10,448 t light; 10,769 t standard; 12,804 t normal; 14,432 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
661.66 ft / 650.00 ft x 67.00 ft x 21.00 ft (normal load)
201.67 m / 198.12 m x 20.42 m x 6.40 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (2x3 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.41kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (4x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 679 lbs / 308 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 370.00 ft / 112.78 m 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.50" / 64 mm 1.50" / 38 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 1.50" / 38 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 82,665 shp / 61,668 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,663 tons

Complement:
601 - 782

Cost:
£3.780 million / $15.119 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 85 tons, 0.7 %
Armour: 1,363 tons, 10.6 %
- Belts: 426 tons, 3.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 107 tons, 0.8 %
- Armour Deck: 830 tons, 6.5 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,378 tons, 18.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,823 tons, 37.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,355 tons, 18.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,800 tons, 14.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
20,203 lbs / 9,164 Kg = 301.4 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 15.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.12
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.30

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.20 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Stern: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Average freeboard: 21.48 ft / 6.55 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180.1 %
Waterplane Area: 29,896 Square feet or 2,777 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 515 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.05
- Longitudinal: 1.34
- Overall: 1.08
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


Misc: 1800 tons= 40 AC

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Sunday, February 25th 2007, 7:53pm

Two designs, losely based on Japan's Chitose design. One faster and one slightly slower design.

Variant A, Japan Light Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
13,937 t light; 14,430 t standard; 15,999 t normal; 17,254 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
655.73 ft / 640.00 ft x 66.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
199.87 m / 195.07 m x 20.12 m x 7.32 m

Armament:
8 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns (4x2 guns), 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns in single mounts, 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 912 lbs / 414 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.54" / 90 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 9.68 ft / 2.95 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 2.36" / 60 mm 524.93 ft / 160.00 m 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm - -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.77" / 45 mm, Conning tower: 2.76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 139,728 shp / 104,237 Kw = 35.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,824 tons

Complement:
710 - 924

Cost:
£5.556 million / $22.223 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 97 tons, 0.6 %
Armour: 2,734 tons, 17.1 %
- Belts: 1,513 tons, 9.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 175 tons, 1.1 %
- Armour Deck: 1,008 tons, 6.3 %
- Conning Tower: 38 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 4,020 tons, 25.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,087 tons, 31.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,061 tons, 12.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,000 tons, 12.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18,397 lbs / 8,345 Kg = 396.4 x 4.5 " / 115 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.17
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.552
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 30.00 ft / 9.14 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 28.00 ft / 8.53 m
- Mid (40 %): 28.00 ft / 8.53 m (20.00 ft / 6.10 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 23.36 ft / 7.12 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 185.4 %
Waterplane Area: 30,760 Square feet or 2,858 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 497 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.53
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent


Variant B, Japan Light Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
13,943 t light; 14,430 t standard; 15,999 t normal; 17,254 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
655.73 ft / 640.00 ft x 66.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
199.87 m / 195.07 m x 20.12 m x 7.32 m

Armament:
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (8x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,055 lbs / 479 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.13" / 105 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 9.68 ft / 2.95 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 2.36" / 60 mm 524.93 ft / 160.00 m 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm - -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.17" / 55 mm, Conning tower: 2.76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 124,408 shp / 92,808 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,824 tons

Complement:
710 - 924

Cost:
£5.399 million / $21.597 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 132 tons, 0.8 %
Armour: 3,111 tons, 19.4 %
- Belts: 1,614 tons, 10.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 227 tons, 1.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1,232 tons, 7.7 %
- Conning Tower: 38 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 3,579 tons, 22.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,120 tons, 32.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,056 tons, 12.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,000 tons, 12.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
20,047 lbs / 9,093 Kg = 299.1 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.552
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 30.00 ft / 9.14 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 28.00 ft / 8.53 m
- Mid (40 %): 28.00 ft / 8.53 m (20.00 ft / 6.10 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 23.36 ft / 7.12 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 185.4 %
Waterplane Area: 30,760 Square feet or 2,858 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 500 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.53
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

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Sunday, February 25th 2007, 9:34pm

Netherlands Offering

Unnamed, Argentina Light Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
13,754 t light; 14,216 t standard; 15,743 t normal; 16,965 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
582.20 ft / 557.74 ft x 80.38 ft x 22.15 ft (normal load)
177.45 m / 170.00 m x 24.50 m x 6.75 m

Armament:
8 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns (4x2 guns), 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns in single mounts, 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 928 lbs / 421 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 10.66 ft / 3.25 m
Ends: 1.18" / 30 mm 129.56 ft / 39.49 m 10.66 ft / 3.25 m
1.67 ft / 0.51 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 118 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.57" / 40 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 19.23 ft / 5.86 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric motors, 4 shafts, 101,157 shp / 75,463 Kw = 31.75 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,749 tons

Complement:
702 - 913

Cost:
£4.770 million / $19.079 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 99 tons, 0.6 %
Armour: 2,660 tons, 16.9 %
- Belts: 809 tons, 5.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 478 tons, 3.0 %
- Armament: 102 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1,192 tons, 7.6 %
- Conning Tower: 80 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 2,910 tons, 18.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,581 tons, 35.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,990 tons, 12.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,504 tons, 15.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
27,191 lbs / 12,334 Kg = 585.9 x 4.5 " / 115 mm shells or 3.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 4.3 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 16.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.13
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.27

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.555
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.94 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 12.01 ft / 3.66 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.33 ft / 8.94 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 29.33 ft / 8.94 m
- Mid (50 %): 29.33 ft / 8.94 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 29.33 ft / 8.94 m
- Stern: 29.33 ft / 8.94 m
- Average freeboard: 29.33 ft / 8.94 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 260.5 %
Waterplane Area: 32,730 Square feet or 3,041 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 134 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 533 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.90
- Longitudinal: 2.76
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


Edit: fixed turret armor, reduced range to 10knm, reduced to under 16000n,

The design meets or exceeds all specifications.

In order to meet the preferences of the client, a relatively low L:B ratio and high BC was chosen, allowing for a somewhat roomier hanger.

Gun battery includes 4 turrets fore/aft of the island. An additional 8 deck mounts are mounted at the corners of the flight deck, like the OTL Yorktowns.
The 20mm and 37mm mount alternate along the edge of the flight deck.

Aircraft capacity is 48 planes, which allows the 40 plus spares
2304 misc weight allocated
SQRT (2304) = 48
LxB = 170mx24.5m = 4165 /70 = 59.5

High freeboard is to represent an enclosed Hanger. This choice was made due to potential operations in the extreme south, including the straits of Magellen. It is anticipated the main armor belt extends 1m above the waterline to the armor deck, above which is a full 2.44m deck, and then the 5.5m hanger.

The 3.66m aft overhang represents the aft round-down, giving a 175m / 574 ft. flight deck. Two large centerline lifts are provided.

An extra 100 misc weight represents additional ventilation and fire fighting equipment.
100 tons misc is "spare" for domestic equipment. .

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Feb 25th 2007, 9:57pm)


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Sunday, February 25th 2007, 9:44pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Desertfox

Misc: 1800 tons= 40 AC


Observation : SQRT(1600) = 40. The design has plenty of excess comp hull and misc weight.
But..
Question- I count 32 (?) below decks, and no room to maneuver them, service them, etc. Basically the 6 near the one elevator*must* be the first moved on deck, and you have to have a deck park just to carry your max capacity.

Carry 40, sure. But with that 2/3s length hanger, operate 40? Perhaps in wartime, but in peace, in the early 30s, do you want your 20%+ of your aircraft exposed to the elements 24/7 ?

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Feb 25th 2007, 9:46pm)


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Sunday, February 25th 2007, 10:17pm




Italy offers the following design. The single hangar is 140m x 18m and protected by 40mm splinter paltes on the sides. A large accelerator is mounted forwards neccestating the shift of the elevator to the starboard side. Maximum airgroup with a deck park is 60 aircraft but there is hangar space for about 40 (which is all that could be reasonably operated.)

Pr 703 laid down 1934

Displacement:
12,945 t light; 13,304 t standard; 14,875 t normal; 16,131 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
671.99 ft / 656.17 ft x 69.09 ft x 22.97 ft (normal load)
204.82 m / 200.00 m x 21.06 m x 7.00 m

Armament:
4 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns (2x2 guns), 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 251 lbs / 114 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 400

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 459.32 ft / 140.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 1.57" / 40 mm 459.32 ft / 140.00 m 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0.79" / 20 mm, Conning tower: 2.76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 86,000 shp / 64,156 Kw = 30.49 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,827 tons

Complement:
673 - 875

Cost:
£4.036 million / $16.144 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 27 tons, 0.2 %
Armour: 1,279 tons, 8.6 %
- Belts: 784 tons, 5.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 18 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 440 tons, 3.0 %
- Conning Tower: 36 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 2,474 tons, 16.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,965 tons, 33.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,930 tons, 13.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 4,200 tons, 28.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21,666 lbs / 9,827 Kg = 466.9 x 4.5 " / 115 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.63

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 31
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 34.45 ft / 10.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 27.89 ft / 8.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 27.89 ft / 8.50 m (19.69 ft / 6.00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (23 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Stern: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Average freeboard: 24.31 ft / 7.41 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 205.2 %
Waterplane Area: 30,207 Square feet or 2,806 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 140 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 99 lbs/sq ft or 484 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.55
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Monday, February 26th 2007, 3:21pm

Improved Australian designs, one with 150mm guns the other one a full length flight deck one based on same hull.



Export 1, Australia Light Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
10,159 t light; 10,491 t standard; 12,499 t normal; 14,105 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
661.66 ft / 650.00 ft x 67.00 ft x 20.50 ft (normal load)
201.67 m / 198.12 m x 20.42 m x 6.25 m

Armament:
6 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (2x3 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (4x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 895 lbs / 406 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 370.00 ft / 112.78 m 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.50" / 64 mm 1.50" / 38 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 1.50" / 38 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 81,503 shp / 60,801 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,615 tons

Complement:
590 - 768

Cost:
£3.818 million / $15.273 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 112 tons, 0.9 %
Armour: 1,379 tons, 11.0 %
- Belts: 426 tons, 3.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 123 tons, 1.0 %
- Armour Deck: 830 tons, 6.6 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,345 tons, 18.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,524 tons, 36.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,340 tons, 18.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,800 tons, 14.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,337 lbs / 8,771 Kg = 187.8 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 14.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.17
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.31

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.20 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Stern: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Average freeboard: 21.48 ft / 6.55 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 183.4 %
Waterplane Area: 29,896 Square feet or 2,777 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 143 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 100 lbs/sq ft or 486 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.25
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily



****


Export 2, Australia Light Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
9,385 t light; 9,657 t standard; 11,584 t normal; 13,126 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
661.66 ft / 650.00 ft x 67.00 ft x 19.00 ft (normal load)
201.67 m / 198.12 m x 20.42 m x 5.79 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (2x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (4x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 399 lbs / 181 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 370.00 ft / 112.78 m 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.50" / 38 mm - -
2nd: 1.50" / 38 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 77,986 shp / 58,177 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,469 tons

Complement:
557 - 725

Cost:
£3.360 million / $13.441 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 50 tons, 0.4 %
Armour: 1,288 tons, 11.1 %
- Belts: 426 tons, 3.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 33 tons, 0.3 %
- Armour Deck: 830 tons, 7.2 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,244 tons, 19.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,154 tons, 35.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,199 tons, 19.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,650 tons, 14.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,694 lbs / 8,933 Kg = 645.5 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 14.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.33

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.20 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Stern: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Average freeboard: 21.48 ft / 6.55 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 194.3 %
Waterplane Area: 29,896 Square feet or 2,777 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 148 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 93 lbs/sq ft or 454 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.18
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Monday, February 26th 2007, 10:14pm

Atlantean preposal #1

Similar in appearance to the CVT Nautica. (Main armament layout similar to IJN Taiho)



Project 208/34, Argentinian Aircraft Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
14,775 t light; 15,289 t standard; 17,227 t normal; 18,778 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
677.21 ft / 652.00 ft x 78.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
206.41 m / 198.73 m x 23.77 m x 7.32 m

Armament:
12 - 5.10" / 130 mm guns (6x2 guns), 66.33lbs / 30.09kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
24 - 0.79" / 20.1 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1934 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 839 lbs / 381 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.95" / 100 mm 358.00 ft / 109.12 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 84 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.58" / 40 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.58" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 3.95" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 100,000 shp / 74,600 Kw = 32.04 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,489 tons

Complement:
751 - 977

Cost:
£4.948 million / $19.794 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 105 tons, 0.6 %
Armour: 1,774 tons, 10.3 %
- Belts: 617 tons, 3.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 79 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 1,021 tons, 5.9 %
- Conning Tower: 57 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2,877 tons, 16.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,679 tons, 33.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,452 tons, 14.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 4,340 tons, 25.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21,332 lbs / 9,676 Kg = 321.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.00
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 17.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.13
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.494
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.36 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.59 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 35.00 ft / 10.67 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 21.20 ft / 6.46 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 177.7 %
Waterplane Area: 35,041 Square feet or 3,255 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 111 lbs/sq ft or 543 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.01
- Longitudinal: 1.31
- Overall: 1.04
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 12:14pm

Wes, top and side view not fit on your drawing (see deck edge platforms for example)....?!

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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 12:18pm

Its a rough representation, based on the CVT Nautica.

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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 2:35pm

Deadline for submisisons is 12:00pm GMT Friday 2nd March.

Not bad so far but could a couple more 170m designs be submitted as these would meet the specification more closely. Any ships over that will have to be built abroad, and none could be built in a home yard for some time. Politics is not a factor in selection.

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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 3:20pm

557ft version, has extra strength for further improvements.


Export 1, Australia Light Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
9,059 t light; 9,325 t standard; 11,151 t normal; 12,612 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
569.59 ft / 557.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 22.00 ft (normal load)
173.61 m / 169.77 m x 19.81 m x 6.71 m

Armament:
12 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (6x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 399 lbs / 181 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 370.00 ft / 112.78 m 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 1.50" / 38 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80,133 shp / 59,779 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,287 tons

Complement:
542 - 705

Cost:
£3.347 million / $13.387 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 50 tons, 0.4 %
Armour: 1,142 tons, 10.2 %
- Belts: 420 tons, 3.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 33 tons, 0.3 %
- Armour Deck: 690 tons, 6.2 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,305 tons, 20.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,762 tons, 33.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,092 tons, 18.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,800 tons, 16.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15,844 lbs / 7,187 Kg = 236.4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.30 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Stern: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Average freeboard: 22.60 ft / 6.89 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 170.2 %
Waterplane Area: 24,854 Square feet or 2,309 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 140 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 94 lbs/sq ft or 459 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.91
- Overall: 1.03
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 4:14pm

If you want something shorter...


Variant C, Japan Light Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
14,157 t light; 14,616 t standard; 15,997 t normal; 17,101 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
550.00 ft / 550.00 ft x 80.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
167.64 m / 167.64 m x 24.38 m x 7.32 m

Armament:
12 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns in single mounts, 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 692 lbs / 314 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 2.95" / 75 mm 492.13 ft / 150.00 m 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
0.98" / 25 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 21.98 ft / 6.70 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 118,055 shp / 88,069 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 9,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,485 tons

Complement:
710 - 924

Cost:
£5.069 million / $20.278 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 73 tons, 0.5 %
Armour: 3,521 tons, 22.0 %
- Belts: 1,972 tons, 12.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 341 tons, 2.1 %
- Armament: 65 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1,142 tons, 7.1 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 3,396 tons, 21.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,167 tons, 32.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,840 tons, 11.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,000 tons, 12.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
25,040 lbs / 11,358 Kg = 539.6 x 4.5 " / 115 mm shells or 3.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
Metacentric height 4.9 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 15.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.530
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.88 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.52 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.00 ft / 9.75 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Mid (50 %): 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Stern: 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Average freeboard: 27.40 ft / 8.35 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 116.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 227.2 %
Waterplane Area: 31,369 Square feet or 2,914 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 124 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 523 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.90
- Longitudinal: 2.42
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Rooijen10" (Feb 27th 2007, 4:15pm)


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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 5:24pm

Ansaldo - Italia feels that 170m is too short a hull length to be of sufficient use as an aircraft carrier and will not be resubmitting a tender.

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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 11:14pm

The Atlantean BuShips also feels that 170m is too short for sufficient CV design, however it can submit the following design.

Project 209/34, Argentinian Aircraft Carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
9,701 t light; 10,042 t standard; 11,155 t normal; 12,045 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
561.74 ft / 545.00 ft x 68.00 ft x 21.50 ft (normal load)
171.22 m / 166.12 m x 20.73 m x 6.55 m

Armament:
8 - 5.10" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 66.33lbs / 30.08kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
24 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.1 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1934 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 574 lbs / 260 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.95" / 100 mm 322.00 ft / 98.15 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 91 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.35" / 60 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.46" / 37 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.58" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 1.58" / 40 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 74,000 shp / 55,204 Kw = 31.28 kts
Range 9,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,003 tons

Complement:
542 - 705

Cost:
£3.426 million / $13.703 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 72 tons, 0.6 %
Armour: 1,355 tons, 12.1 %
- Belts: 550 tons, 4.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 47 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 741 tons, 6.6 %
- Conning Tower: 17 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 2,129 tons, 19.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,145 tons, 37.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,454 tons, 13.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,000 tons, 17.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,736 lbs / 6,684 Kg = 222.2 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.01
Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 16.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.01 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.16 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 35.00 ft / 10.67 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 21.20 ft / 6.46 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178.8 %
Waterplane Area: 25,441 Square feet or 2,364 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 523 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.06
- Longitudinal: 1.89
- Overall: 1.12
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 11:16pm

Walter, I'd sure love to see that carriers drawing, seems rather cramped.

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Tuesday, February 27th 2007, 11:19pm

No Oyama Works designs at this time.

Chile will not enter this contest due to the only designs on Chilean drawing boards are much longer than 170 meters, and our existing carrier is of Atlantean design.

Also we wouldn't want to loose an edge however small it actually is now would we. :)

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Wednesday, February 28th 2007, 1:03am

What the heck; call this a private sector entry from Naval Defence Solutions Inc.

All weapons are mounted on the sides, while exhaust is trunked aft and discharged downward, similar to the historical Kaga. Together, this allows for a small island and an otherwise unobstructed flight deck, an important consideration given the relative restricted size of the deck.

Lighter weapons are simmed as enclosed mountings, to protect crews from exhaust gases and weather.

Miscellaneous tonnage: 1782 t
-1600 t: 40 A/C
-25 t: Flag facilities
-50 t: Hydraulic catapult
-107 t: Weight reserve

Argie CV laid down 1934

Displacement:
12,637 t light; 12,979 t standard; 14,151 t normal; 15,088 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
599.14 ft / 557.74 ft x 82.02 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load)
182.62 m / 170.00 m x 25.00 m x 6.00 m

Armament:
8 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns (4x2 guns), 46.40lbs / 21.05kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
6 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 403 lbs / 183 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 362.53 ft / 110.50 m 10.86 ft / 3.31 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 1.97" / 50 mm 362.53 ft / 110.50 m 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 362.53 ft / 110.50 m 18.08 ft / 5.51 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
4th: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 87,132 shp / 65,000 Kw = 31.06 kts
Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts (Bunkerage = 2,109 tons)

Complement:
648 - 843

Cost:
£4.102 million / $16.407 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 50 tons, 0.4 %
Armour: 3,319 tons, 23.5 %
- Belts: 894 tons, 6.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 477 tons, 3.4 %
- Armament: 107 tons, 0.8 %
- Armour Deck: 1,816 tons, 12.8 %
- Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 2,507 tons, 17.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,979 tons, 35.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,514 tons, 10.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,782 tons, 12.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
20,687 lbs / 9,383 Kg = 445.8 x 4.5 " / 115 mm shells or 3.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 16.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.06
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.80 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.67 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Stern: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Average freeboard: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 256.4 %
Waterplane Area: 33,238 Square feet or 3,088 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 512 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.92
- Longitudinal: 1.97
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Wednesday, February 28th 2007, 1:34am

HDW of Germany submits the following entry, based on the new Otto Lillienthal class training carrier that is under construction.

CV-1933, German Aircraft Carrier laid down 1933

Displacement:
8,061 t light; 8,283 t standard; 9,190 t normal; 9,915 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
570.12 ft / 541.34 ft x 65.62 ft (Bulges 75.46 ft) x 16.40 ft (normal load)
173.77 m / 165.00 m x 20.00 m (Bulges 23.00 m) x 5.00 m

Armament:
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 269 lbs / 122 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 240

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 330.22 ft / 100.65 m 9.71 ft / 2.96 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 94 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 72,862 shp / 54,355 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,632 tons

Complement:
469 - 610

Cost:
£2.872 million / $11.489 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 34 tons, 0.4 %
Armour: 1,030 tons, 11.2 %
- Belts: 270 tons, 2.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 19 tons, 0.2 %
- Armour Deck: 704 tons, 7.7 %
- Conning Tower: 37 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,123 tons, 23.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,631 tons, 39.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,129 tons, 12.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,244 tons, 13.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,884 lbs / 6,751 Kg = 487.8 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 16.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.17 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.38 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.81 ft / 10.00 m
- Forecastle (22 %): 29.53 ft / 9.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m (19.69 ft / 6.00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (17 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Stern: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Average freeboard: 24.44 ft / 7.45 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 230.1 %
Waterplane Area: 24,163 Square feet or 2,245 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 92 lbs/sq ft or 449 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.91
- Longitudinal: 2.18
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Space for 32 aircraft, along with 4 spares at 25 tons each.

120 tons reserved for command spaces and growth.

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Wednesday, February 28th 2007, 5:49am

Eclipse International Offers the following Design






Type 01, N/A Carier laid down 1934

Displacement:
13,766 t light; 14,116 t standard; 16,000 t normal; 17,507 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 104.99 ft x 22.97 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 32.00 m x 7.00 m

Armament:
6 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns in single mounts, 46.40lbs / 21.05kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side ends, evenly spread
24 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side ends, evenly spread
36 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (6x6 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 324 lbs / 147 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 362.53 ft / 110.50 m 9.71 ft / 2.96 m
Ends: 0.01" / 0 mm 195.18 ft / 59.49 m 9.71 ft / 2.96 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 362.53 ft / 110.50 m 22.15 ft / 6.75 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.51" / 13 mm 0.59" / 15 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.51" / 13 mm 0.59" / 15 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 93,953 shp / 70,089 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 16.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,391 tons

Complement:
710 - 924

Cost:
£4.390 million / $17.560 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 0.3 %
Armour: 969 tons, 6.1 %
- Belts: 303 tons, 1.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 585 tons, 3.7 %
- Armament: 81 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,703 tons, 16.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,054 tons, 62.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,234 tons, 14.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
30,806 lbs / 13,974 Kg = 663.9 x 4.5 " / 115 mm shells or 7.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
Metacentric height 7.1 ft / 2.2 m
Roll period: 16.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.81

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.416
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.31 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 100
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.98 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 16.54 ft / 5.04 m
- Mid (50 %): 16.54 ft / 5.04 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.54 ft / 5.04 m
- Stern: 16.54 ft / 5.04 m
- Average freeboard: 17.29 ft / 5.27 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 161.5 %
Waterplane Area: 36,416 Square feet or 3,383 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 239 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 221 lbs/sq ft or 1,079 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.90
- Longitudinal: 2.75
- Overall: 1.97
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

3 Elevators, 100,000 sq ft of aircraft storage space split evenly on 2 Hanger decks 50,000 sqft per deck. Design calls for a complement of 60 (180,000 lbs) aircraft 30 stored on each hanger deck

Unless i totaly blew it on the math belive it or not it works lol actualy room for more / larger planes than the ones i used. Aircraft info is based off the p26 peashooter which was in production in 1932