Great MacRobertson Air Race

Ambitious Packrat

Saturday, February 17th 2007, 1:31am

Time for the Great Race.

Rules are simple:
No limit to the size of aircraft or power, no limit to crew size, no pilot to join aircraft after it left England. Aircraft must carry three days' rations per crew member, floats, smoke signals and efficient instruments.

Race route and mandatory stops:

Race will start on October 20th, 1934

OOC Link:[URL]http://www.dc3airways.com/1934-1.html[/URL]

My own entries coming soon.

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Swamphen

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 1:55am

The Royal Siamese Air Force will enter a modified Fw 42B-1.

[SIZE=1](Note: aircraft prior to modification; race # to go in tail disc.)[/SIZE]

This is the same aircraft planned for entry at the 1934 Talons over Cordoba competition; following ToC it will be shipped to England, its armament will be removed and replaced with a fuel tank, fresh engines installed, the tail gunner's position will be faired over, and fuel tanks will be installed in the bomb bay.

F/O Suan Sukhserm will be the pilot, while Flt Lt. Chan Nuat-Kheo will be aircraft commander.

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Brazil doesn't sponsor a governmental entry, however EMBRAER will enter the third prototype EMB-35.

Powered by a 900hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-64 Twin Wasp, the pilot and navigator will be announced at a later date.

[SIZE=1](OOC: If anybody has detailed specs for the Bellanca 28-90 "Flash", I'd be much apprecitive...)[/SIZE]

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The Rock Doctor

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 2:03am

Just thinking that if Canada were to order that horrific Focke-Wulf aircraft, they'd probably end up calling it the "hockey stick".

I guess if the race is making a stop in India, I ought to think up an entry.

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Kaiser Kirk

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 2:33am

When the time comes, KLM Airlines will submit one of the Fokker XXXVI airliners.

While the first plane had problems with mud jamming the spats, and with the townsend cowlings, these have been corrected in production planes. With the large dunlop tires providing excellent flotation, they have proven satisfactory.

Fokker F.36
1932 monoplane airliner
Rough field capable
Crew : 3+ 32 passengers
Powerplant : 4x Wright Cyclone F2 750hp
Armament : None
Armor : None
Range : 837nm (1550km) at 151kts
Weight (max) : 16,500 kg / 36,376lbs
Wing Span: 33.0m Length: 23.6m Wing Area: 171.9m2

The Netherlands Air Force will enter the T.V.

Fokker T.V
1933 monoplane bomber
Rough field capable
Crew : 5
Powerplant : 2xBristol "Pegasus" 965 hp each
Armament : 6x 13.2mm MG, Radio, 1050kg disposable stores: One 13.2mm machine gun in dorsal position, one 13.2mm machine gun trainable rearward firing in ventral step or retractable position, two 13.2mm machine guns in beam positions and one 13.2mm machine gun in nose
Armor : 10mm disk behind cockpit
Range : 810nm (1500km) at 160kts
Rate of climb : 1,182 fps at 118kts
Stall speed : 65kts
Ceiling : 29,000
Max speed : 235kts (270mph)
Corner Turn rate : 27.4 degrees/sec
Manuever Turn rate : 11.2 degrees/sec
Weight (max) : 16,500 lbs
Cost : $58,000
Wing Span: 19.5m Length: 15.9m Wing Area: 62.1m2

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ShinRa_Inc

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 3:52am

Just to be a screwball...

The Dominion of Canada is considering submitting the Airship Pegasus, pending evaluation of her acceptance trials.

Another consideration will be a prototype Avro Canada CB-100 "Buzzard" (A development of the CT-100 "Gelnika" with a streamlined and reduced fuseluage, intended as a Multirole (Recon/Bomber), long-range aircraft).

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CanisD

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 5:04am

Douglas Aircraft of Santa Monica will enter one of its new DC-3 airliners, while Boeing will enter one of its new Model 247's. Detroit-Lockheed will enter its new L-10 Electra, to be flown by Ms. Amelia Earhart while Miss Jacqueline Cochran will be piloting a Northrop Gamma-2G. These are the major entries, I'm not listing all of them since historically there were a couple dozen US entries! I'm not sure if that includes US aircraft flown by other countries' pilots, like the KLM DC-2.

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Kaiser Kirk

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 5:34am

Quoted

Originally posted by CanisD
Douglas Aircraft of Santa Monica will enter one of its new I'm not sure if that includes US aircraft flown by other countries' pilots, like the KLM DC-2.

I decided to sidestep that one with the intent of letting the Wesworld home country field the aircraft. The F.36 was ordered by KLM for the Amsterdam-Batavia route (never used for it OTL) so I'll use that instead of their DC-2s.

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Hood

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 11:20am

[edit see post on page two for full entry stats and pictures]

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AdmKuznetsov

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 1:26pm

The Russian entry is, of course...

Academecian Tupelov's ANT-31, a development of the ANT-28:

ANT-31
Wingspan - 39.6m; Length - 24.4; Height - 4.5m; Wing Area - 223m2
Crew - 7; Engines - 4x 950HP Klimov in-line engines; Empty weight - 11,800kg; Maximum weight - 20,500kg
Defensive armament - 6x 7.62mm ShTAS machineguns in 3 turrets (Dorsal, Tail, Belly), 2x 7.62mm ShTAS machineguns in nose
Top speed - 191kts; Maximum altitude - 10,500; Maximum range with no bombload - 3,000nm at 170 kts
Combat radius with 2,000kg bombload - 1,150nm
Combat radius with 4,000kg bombload - 800nm

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 1:31pm

Italy enters the Savoia-Marchetti 79quater. It was originally a prototype in late 1932/early 33 with Isotta-Fraschini Asso engines. However the situation changed and its been lying around for a bit. It'll be brought up to race standard with some more fairing and removal of armament. THe engines are extremely reliable if not a little thirsty. Extra tanks in the bombbay will take care of that but will raise the take-off weight considerably.

Max speed is about 610km/h, unrefuelled range of about 3500km @ 480km/h

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, February 17th 2007, 5:32pm

Swampy, see here for your stats and more pictures. I can't say that its a particularly attractive aeroplane.

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Desertfox

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 3:48am

What no Wiley Post and his high altitude Vega? I assume the Boeing 247 will be flown by Roscoe Turner?

Looks like this Race will be eventful...I will be pulling names from a hat for engine failures, wreaks, sabotage, and the like.

Mexico will be entering a modified B-1 Condor (DC-3 Bomber)

Australia will have several first:

Charles Kingsford Smith and his Lockheed Altair Lady Southern Cross

CAC will enter a pair of specialy modified Lockheed Sirus.

I might be adding a few random planes just to make things more interesting.

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The Rock Doctor

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 3:58am

Gavin, are those historical stats for the SM.79? They're greatly different from the single source I have on hand (435 kph and 1,900 range respectively). I'm just not sure how reliable this book is.

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Kaiser Kirk

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 4:02am

Quoted

Originally posted by Desertfox

Mexico will be entering a modified B-1 Condor (DC-3 Bomber)

May I point out that Canis referred to the DC-2 as "new', so the DC-3 may well not be out yet to become a bomber

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The Rock Doctor

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 4:13am

An Alleppey Aeronautics AA-9:

Type: Pre-production model Medium Bomber
Crew: 6 (Pilot-Captain Mulayam Shukla, commanding)
Engines: 3
Max Speed: 415 kph
Max Range: 2,100 km
Wingspan: 20 m
Length: 12.8 m
Armament: 2 x 7.5mm fixed forward; 2 x 7.5 mm in dorsal turret behind cockpit; 2 x 7.5 mm in tail turret; 1 x 7.5 mm in ventral position; 1000 kg of ordnance

Note also that Awali Brothers are entering a souped up Toofani C bomber, notable for its increased range and, more visibly, the garish orange and black checker pattern adorning the entire aircraft. Pilot-Lieutenant Arun Bedi commands this aircraft.

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Desertfox

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 4:24am

Looks like the US is behind in aircraft technology. That will make the B-1 Condor a DC-2 variant. (but not a B-18 Bolo!). Have to change the specs for it then.

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Swamphen

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 4:24am

Quoted

May I point out that Canis referred to the DC-2 as "new', so the DC-3 may well not be out yet to become a bomber

I noticed that; Siam ordered DC-2s about a year ago (or at least it seems that way

) so I think they (and the B247) aren't quite that new.

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Red Admiral

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 11:22am

Quoted

Gavin, are those historical stats for the SM.79? They're greatly different from the single source I have on hand (435 kph and 1,900 range respectively). I'm just not sure how reliable this book is.

Its not the historical design. Its a heavily modified version with Isotta-Fraschini Asso engines (1800hp, bear in mind they are 57L behemoths and weigh loads. Thats 31hp/L which is common -> low for the period). Then the airframe is considerably overloaded with MTOW up to 14000kg from 10500kg so it limits airfields its possible to take off from and makes handling worse. I'd expect a prang on landing or take-off.

From what I know of the engines at 480km/h cruise (66% power) I'll need 774kg of fuel per hour. So about 5500kg of fuel needs to be carried for the 3500km range. It corresponds reasonably well with the weights for the aircraft. Empty 7500kg MTOW 14000kg

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thesmilingassassin

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 11:22am

Atlantis will enter a modified Spartan B-1 Vanquish as well as an Accrisius design.

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HoOmAn

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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 11:55am

From South Africa two planes will attend:

1.) The Brenner Comet (alias Arado Ar 77)

Pilot will be millionaire Gustaf Brenner - a self-made man who got rich over diamonds. The plane is "a man´s toy" to him. With him will be two mechanics, Alfred Humpel and Paul Costey, and a navigator, Raymont Brugger.

The plane is powered by two 620hp 10-cycl-engines and can reach a cruise speed of 440km/h.

2.) The DeBroek FD-2 (alias Focke-Wulf Fw 57)

The DeBroek Aircraft Company will send one of its testplanes, the FD-2. It´s a prototype heavy fighter/light bomber. Powered by two 12-cycl-engines of 1250hp each the plane is expected to have a cruising speed of 500km/h and a max. speed of 580km/h. For the race her turret will be removed.

Her crew will be test pilot Cpt. Henry Johan, navigator Thomas Kogg and mechanic Benjamin Kleber.

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