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Nordmark offers the old Battlecruiser Oscar II for sale on the open market once more prior to her scrapping.
Note she is now in a very run-down state, but is still capable of proceeding on the open sea under her own power.

Oscar II Class, Nordmark Battlecruiser laid down 1908

Displacement:
15,402 t light; 16,275 t standard; 18,002 t normal; 19,384 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.00 ft / 557.00 ft x 78.50 ft x 26.20 ft (normal load)
169.77 m / 169.77 m x 23.93 m x 7.99 m

Armament:
4 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1908 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns in single mounts, 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1908 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships
16 - 4.30" / 109 mm guns in single mounts, 39.75lbs / 18.03kg shells, 1908 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 - 1.90" / 48.3 mm guns in single mounts, 3.43lbs / 1.56kg shells, 1908 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 5,847 lbs / 2,652 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 500.00 ft / 152.40 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 4.00" / 102 mm 57.00 ft / 17.37 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Upper: 4.00" / 102 mm 500.00 ft / 152.40 m 6.00 ft / 1.83 m
Main Belt covers 138 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
0.80" / 20 mm 500.00 ft / 152.40 m 26.00 ft / 7.92 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
2nd: 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 57,746 shp / 43,079 Kw = 26.00 kts
Range 6,100nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,109 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
776 - 1,010

Cost:
£1.602 million / $6.409 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 731 tons, 4.1 %
Armour: 5,036 tons, 28.0 %
- Belts: 2,516 tons, 14.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 385 tons, 2.1 %
- Armament: 1,141 tons, 6.3 %
- Armour Deck: 847 tons, 4.7 %
- Conning Tower: 148 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 3,208 tons, 17.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,427 tons, 35.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,600 tons, 14.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,696 lbs / 8,934 Kg = 22.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 14.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.10 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m (18.00 ft / 5.49 m before break)
- Stern: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Average freeboard: 18.49 ft / 5.64 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 134.8 %
Waterplane Area: 30,515 Square feet or 2,835 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 703 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.55
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Oscar II


Also for Sale in the next year are at the most, 6 of the 1915 type Tampere Class Light Cruisers, all with distinguished war records. These hulls are still capable, the other 12 intended to remain in Nordmark, having been rebuilt in 1930.

Tampere Class, Nordmark Light Cruisers laid down 1915

Displacement:
4,383 t light; 4,566 t standard; 5,553 t normal; 6,343 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
446.00 ft / 446.00 ft x 49.50 ft x 15.50 ft (normal load)
135.94 m / 135.94 m x 15.09 m x 4.72 m

Armament:
6 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns (3x2 guns), 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1915 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
4 - 1.90" / 48.3 mm guns in single mounts, 3.43lbs / 1.56kg shells, 1915 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1915 Model
Anti-aircraft gun in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1915 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 643 lbs / 292 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 300.00 ft / 91.44 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 40,420 shp / 30,153 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 7,000nm at 16.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,776 tons

Complement:
321 - 418

Cost:
£0.633 million / $2.533 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 80 tons, 1.4 %
Armour: 815 tons, 14.7 %
- Belts: 453 tons, 8.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 46 tons, 0.8 %
- Armour Deck: 290 tons, 5.2 %
- Conning Tower: 27 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 1,531 tons, 27.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,896 tons, 34.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,171 tons, 21.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7,022 lbs / 3,185 Kg = 68.4 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 11.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.05

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.568
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.01 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 16.53 ft / 5.04 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.9 %
Waterplane Area: 15,670 Square feet or 1,456 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 379 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.43
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Luleå, Larvik, Norrköping, Pori, Reykjavik, Sundsvall


And also offered by the Admiralty is the chance to order a light cruiser to the same design as Nordmark's own new Sleipner Class Cruisers

Sleipner Class, Nordmark Light Cruisers laid down 1933

Displacement:
6,974 t light; 7,308 t standard; 9,055 t normal; 10,453 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
570.06 ft / 557.00 ft x 57.00 ft x 18.15 ft (normal load)
173.75 m / 169.77 m x 17.37 m x 5.53 m

Armament:
9 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns (3x3 guns), 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1933 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns in single mounts, 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft, 8 raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 1,278 lbs / 580 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.50" / 89 mm 380.00 ft / 115.82 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 70,410 shp / 52,526 Kw = 31.75 kts
Range 5,097nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,146 tons

Complement:
463 - 603

Cost:
£3.146 million / $12.583 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 160 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 1,420 tons, 15.7 %
- Belts: 552 tons, 6.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 190 tons, 2.1 %
- Armour Deck: 640 tons, 7.1 %
- Conning Tower: 37 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,052 tons, 22.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,268 tons, 36.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,081 tons, 23.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 75 tons, 0.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
12,257 lbs / 5,560 Kg = 119.4 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 13.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.33
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.77 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.83 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.00 ft / 8.53 m
- Forecastle (40 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m (14.75 ft / 4.50 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (10 %): 14.75 ft / 4.50 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 20.03 ft / 6.10 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116.5 %
Waterplane Area: 23,068 Square feet or 2,143 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 132 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 440 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.43
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

This design is offered new from Nordmark's yards for a total cost of 7300t per hull.

please direct all enquiries to your local Nordish embassy or representative

Quoted

Originally posted by Earl822
is still capable of proceeding on the open sea under her own power.

Hmmm why do I detect a sleezy spiv trying to sell this ship? "Cor gov it don't alf go but don't try and ave a barney in her or you'll git no warranty from me."

It can sail under her own power (maybe only 10kts?) but what about her fighting capacity?

Those new crusiers look very nice though and not a bad price too.

I'm not sure why anyone would buy the older ships. They are massively worn out from use in two separate wars and are probably better described as "floating scrap". The Tampere class are just too small and old to be useful.

The new cruiser isn't bad but the heavy AA battery is a bit weak and the single mounts lead to considerable problems with fitting everything on the hull.