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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 12:38am

One-upsman ship? Nah...


To be announced Q3 for completion in 1938 or 39. Embraces the current "streamlining" look so popular in the mid 1930's from toasters to trains.

SS America, United States Ocean Liner laid down 1933

Displacement:
57,481 t light; 59,051 t standard; 78,503 t normal; 94,064 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
1,237.42 ft / 1,200.00 ft x 128.00 ft x 32.00 ft (normal load)
377.17 m / 365.76 m x 39.01 m x 9.75 m

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric motors, 5 shafts, 346,288 shp / 258,331 Kw = 36.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 36.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 35,013 tons

Complement:
2,344 - 3,048

Cost:
£16.188 million / $64.753 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 10,090 tons, 12.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 28,791 tons, 36.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 21,022 tons, 26.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 18,600 tons, 23.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
180,622 lbs / 81,929 Kg = 1,672.4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 7.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
Metacentric height 9.5 ft / 2.9 m
Roll period: 17.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.559
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.38 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 39.47 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 33.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 53.00 ft / 16.15 m
- Forecastle (28 %): 47.00 ft / 14.33 m
- Mid (50 %): 47.00 ft / 14.33 m
- Quarterdeck (28 %): 40.00 ft / 12.19 m (47.00 ft / 14.33 m before break)
- Stern: 40.00 ft / 12.19 m
- Average freeboard: 45.72 ft / 13.94 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 68.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 429.9 %
Waterplane Area: 112,569 Square feet or 10,458 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 202 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 169 lbs/sq ft or 826 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.42
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Cargo 2000 tons
Misc Weight 500 tons
Passengers: 16100 tons (750/2500)

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 12:58am



Go with the Bel Geddes style liner instead. Or a really, really large aircraft...

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 1:57am

If the COLUMBIA is based on a QUEEN MARY drawing she´s about 80kts. AMERICA looks more like the OTL-latest large liners - so 140kts to 200kts.

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 2:11am

Don't get to complacent...

the private yard of Chantiers et Ateliers de St. Nazaire will soon be looking for work...

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 2:24am

I don't know. I'd rather just try to come up with the historical United States...a little early due to serious drive and money.

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 3:43am

Glad to see your Eye is doing better, Canis.

Guess I'll have to modify the plans for Oceanic's running mate... (:

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 6:08am


Columbia is relatively small compared to the historical QM and Normandie. She's basically a liner built on the hull of a cancelled Lexington class BC.

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 9:59am

Holy smolegins.. I'm not sure, but will America be the biggest ship in the Wesworld?

A random thought - I've always thought it would be interesting to see floatplane facilities on a liner. Wealthy passengers could pay for an aerial tour of whatever city the liner was passing, for example..

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 10:10am

Looks like an idea for Colombia.

She has the deck space aft for floatplane facility's.

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 10:28am

She should be pretty close to the biggest. The actual look of the ship isn't too advanced from historical designs, since the actual SS America was built later in the decade, and the SS United States was very similar. Hadn't thought about a seaplane, but it might make sense to have a mail plane or two on the fantail. Since she's intended for the North Atlantic crossing, I don't see much need for tourist planes. Now, once the idea of cruising catches on, it might make sense. Certainly the modern cruise "boxes" could handle a chopper or two pretty easily, though I suppose there would be liability concerns.

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 10:58am

Quoted

Holy smolegins.. I'm not sure, but will America be the biggest ship in the Wesworld?

I'll make sure that won't be the case when I start the construction of the Iran Delvar Maru. :-)

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 12:10pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Rooijen10

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Holy smolegins.. I'm not sure, but will America be the biggest ship in the Wesworld?

I'll make sure that won't be the case when I start the construction of the Iran Delvar Maru. :-)


But America -will- be the biggest for the hundred years or so it will take to build Iran Delvar. :p

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 12:13pm

Well, I slightly adjusted the desgn about an hour ago so it will be a half a million ton ship at full displacement and 76,500 tons at light so it will now take a mere 7 years and 2 months to build...
:-)

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 6:03pm

I wonder if tensions will go down enough, and interest go up enough for there to be a speed liner race for the Pacific Ocean?

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Saturday, November 18th 2006, 6:05pm

Yes. The Black and White Riband. :-)

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Sunday, November 19th 2006, 11:36am

Those are some awesome liners Canis!

It looks like we face another naval war albeit less deadly and much more profitable.

If a private Argentinean company ordered a liner abroad from a private yard would any material have to be paid for or not? (I'm sort of clueless about the rules on civil shipping)

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Sunday, November 19th 2006, 4:21pm

Depends. If the ship is just a regular liner it would be "free". But if it had "Goverment furnished materials" you would have to pay for that.