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Firstly come Nordmarks first major units in 8 years, built to replace the BC's laid down in 1914. Names are not yet confirmed.

BB33, Nordmark Battleship laid down 1933

Displacement:
37,400 t light; 39,201 t standard; 43,680 t normal; 47,263 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
812.01 ft / 800.00 ft x 105.00 ft x 28.00 ft (normal load)
247.50 m / 243.84 m x 32.00 m x 8.53 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,873.93lbs / 850.00kg shells, 1933 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
20 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (10x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (16 mounts), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 16 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 16,387 lbs / 7,433 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 15.0" / 381 mm 500.00 ft / 152.40 m 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.75" / 44 mm 500.00 ft / 152.40 m 28.00 ft / 8.53 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15.0" / 381 mm 12.0" / 305 mm 12.5" / 318 mm
2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 6.00" / 152 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 94,418 shp / 70,436 Kw = 27.00 kts
Range 5,032nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 8,062 tons

Complement:
1,509 - 1,963

Cost:
£15.403 million / $61.610 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,862 tons, 4.3 %
Armour: 16,582 tons, 38.0 %
- Belts: 4,554 tons, 10.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 907 tons, 2.1 %
- Armament: 3,349 tons, 7.7 %
- Armour Deck: 7,452 tons, 17.1 %
- Conning Tower: 321 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 2,751 tons, 6.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 16,025 tons, 36.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,280 tons, 14.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 180 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
77,719 lbs / 35,253 Kg = 46.1 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 13.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 6.8 ft / 2.1 m
Roll period: 17.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.28

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.650
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.62 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 32.47 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 33.00 ft / 10.06 m
- Forecastle (40 %): 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Mid (55 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m (15.00 ft / 4.57 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 22.10 ft / 6.73 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 66.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.8 %
Waterplane Area: 67,134 Square feet or 6,237 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 184 lbs/sq ft or 898 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.00
- Longitudinal: 1.01
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

3 Units Planned

Misc Weight is:-

75tons Aircraft
45tons Flag Facilities
60tons Electronics
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Nordmarks fourth Carrier to be laid down in 4 years, and again an imperical improvement of the preceeding ships, though I could do with a fourth carrier, I'm still not convinced that Nordmark really needs it and I might build more cruisers instead.


Hök Class, Nordmark Aircraft carrier laid down 1933

Displacement:
16,400 t light; 16,892 t standard; 19,917 t normal; 22,337 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
689.11 ft / 680.00 ft x 80.00 ft x 23.73 ft (normal load)
210.04 m / 207.26 m x 24.38 m x 7.23 m

Armament:
12 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (6x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
20 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 529 lbs / 240 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 480.00 ft / 146.30 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 1.25" / 32 mm 480.00 ft / 146.30 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.25" / 32 mm 480.00 ft / 146.30 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 119,672 shp / 89,275 Kw = 31.50 kts
Range 5,087nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,445 tons

Complement:
837 - 1,089

Cost:
£5.284 million / $21.136 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 66 tons, 0.3 %
Armour: 3,067 tons, 15.4 %
- Belts: 1,101 tons, 5.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 444 tons, 2.2 %
- Armament: 67 tons, 0.3 %
- Armour Deck: 1,392 tons, 7.0 %
- Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 3,487 tons, 17.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,029 tons, 30.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,517 tons, 17.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 3,750 tons, 18.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
28,668 lbs / 13,003 Kg = 705.9 x 4.3 " / 110 mm shells or 4.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
Metacentric height 4.9 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 15.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.06
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.540
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.08 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 34.00 ft / 10.36 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Mid (55 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Stern: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Average freeboard: 22.04 ft / 6.72 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 179.7 %
Waterplane Area: 37,611 Square feet or 3,494 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 139 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 530 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.14
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Hök

Can carry 60 aircraft, 24 Fighters and 36 Torpedo/Dive Bombers plus 4 spares (3700tons)

Has 50tons flag facilities


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A large class of TB's, not as numerous as orignially planned but still in great enough numbers to be posted to several key areas in sufficent numbers.


TB 33, Nordmark Torpedo Boat laid down 1933

Displacement:
576 t light; 596 t standard; 653 t normal; 699 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
233.53 ft / 230.00 ft x 22.00 ft x 10.39 ft (normal load)
71.18 m / 70.10 m x 6.71 m x 3.17 m

Armament:
2 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns in single mounts, 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
3 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Conning tower: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 17,422 shp / 12,997 Kw = 31.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 102 tons

Complement:
64 - 84

Cost:
£0.349 million / $1.395 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 11 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 11 tons, 1.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 9 tons, 1.4 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 317 tons, 48.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 227 tons, 34.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 78 tons, 11.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
214 lbs / 97 Kg = 5.3 x 4.3 " / 110 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 11.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.31
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.435
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.45 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17.39 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 73 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m (10.00 ft / 3.05 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Stern: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Average freeboard: 13.10 ft / 3.99 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 171.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 68.9 %
Waterplane Area: 3,312 Square feet or 308 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 58 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs/sq ft or 122 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.51
- Longitudinal: 6.38
- Overall: 0.65
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

TB 33 1 to 40 built



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The H Class Subs, 8 new submarines to back up the existing S class, smaller and as a result slower, but long legged and able to patrol Nordmarks SLOC's

H Class , Nordmark Submarine laid down 1933

Displacement:
878 t light; 905 t standard; 1,214 t normal; 1,462 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
200.00 ft / 200.00 ft x 25.00 ft x 17.71 ft (normal load)
60.96 m / 60.96 m x 7.62 m x 5.40 m

Armament:
1 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns in single mounts, 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose gun in deck mount
on centreline forward
2 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
2 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1933 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
Weight of broadside 41 lbs / 19 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:

- Conning tower: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators plus batteries,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 2,920 shp / 2,178 Kw = 17.00 kts
Range 14,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 556 tons

Complement:
102 - 133

Cost:
£0.222 million / $0.888 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 5 tons, 0.4 %
Armour: 5 tons, 0.4 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 85 tons, 7.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 557 tons, 45.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 337 tons, 27.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 225 tons, 18.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
297 lbs / 135 Kg = 7.3 x 4.3 " / 110 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.05
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 12.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 0 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.14 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Stern: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Average freeboard: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 144.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 0.0 %
Waterplane Area: 3,272 Square feet or 304 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 275 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 521 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 2.92
- Longitudinal: 3.06
- Overall: 2.93
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

S33-1to8

4 fore 2 aft tubes

8 reloads

I like the BB33, it has a good secondary armament and AA defence. Armour seems reasonable to me, whats the TDS like in detail? I would prefer a slightly faster speed myself.

Carrier seems good but I guess cruisers might be a better choice rather than more carriers.

The TB is fair for its size and displacement but it seems lacking in gunpower and speed. Ideal for stooging around in Fijords though.

TB's gun armament is about right for the size, if anything (based on the historical German T-1's) it might be too heavy, though the historical ships were larger and faster.

The BB looks solid, as usual with the Nordish designs.

Hard to say which would be better, another carrier or a pair of light cruisers, but the carrier design looks reasonable enough. A bit slower and not quite as good a seaboat as I'd like for patroling the north or south Atlantic, but you're tonnage limited and that would cut into your airgroup.

I'd hold off on the carrier - there's been little time to learn much from the first ship, and the other two are stillb building. Give it a few years, and you can both incorporate actual operational experience and avoid a block obsolescence issue.

The TBs probably aren't a good choice for you. They're just not big and seaworthy enough and will create a large drag on manpower. This in exchange for a unit that isn't much good at anything. Its only real use would be numbers for use as coastal escorts, but they aren't really suited to this role.

The main theatre these ships will deployed to are in the Baltic. Destroyers are at a premium in Nordmark's fleet, and the Baltic fleet is slower than the rest of the fleet, thus these ships are capable enough.

Or is another option better?

MTB's?

Escorts?

Cruisers?

Need destroyers if operating singly or with capital ships. For coastal traffic, something like Flower class will suffice. Don't forget about the ice.

Quoted

Don't forget about the ice.

Something like this?

PF33, Nordmark Polar Frigate laid down 1933

Displacement:
944 t light; 991 t standard; 1,321 t normal; 1,585 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
234.06 ft / 230.00 ft x 34.00 ft x 10.75 ft (normal load)
71.34 m / 70.10 m x 10.36 m x 3.28 m

Armament:
4 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (2x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1933 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 177 lbs / 80 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.15" / 29 mm 230.00 ft / 70.10 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 5,815 shp / 4,338 Kw = 20.00 kts
Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 594 tons

Complement:
109 - 142

Cost:
£0.356 million / $1.425 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 144 tons, 10.9 %
- Belts: 117 tons, 8.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 19 tons, 1.4 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 8 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 169 tons, 12.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 518 tons, 39.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 378 tons, 28.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 90 tons, 6.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
2,801 lbs / 1,271 Kg = 69.0 x 4.3 " / 110 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 1.2 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 13.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.44
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.76 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.17 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Forecastle (35 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (40 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m (12.50 ft / 3.81 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.50 ft / 3.81 m
- Stern: 12.50 ft / 3.81 m
- Average freeboard: 15.92 ft / 4.85 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 63.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 126.4 %
Waterplane Area: 5,458 Square feet or 507 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 176 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 48 lbs/sq ft or 233 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.81
- Longitudinal: 6.67
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

PF33 1-12 built

Misc Weight is:
10tons Sonar, 20tons ASW or Mines, 30tons Stores, 30tons Climatisation

And here is the proposed design of cruiser

Sleipner Class, Nordmark Light Cruisers laid down 1933

Displacement:
6,984 t light; 7,304 t standard; 9,030 t normal; 10,411 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
571.92 ft / 557.00 ft x 57.00 ft x 18.10 ft (normal load)
174.32 m / 169.77 m x 17.37 m x 5.52 m

Armament:
8 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1933 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
6 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns in single mounts, 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft
Weight of broadside 1,094 lbs / 496 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 215
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.25" / 83 mm 360.00 ft / 109.73 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 2.50" / 64 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.40" / 36 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 72,522 shp / 54,101 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 5,040nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,107 tons

Complement:
463 - 602

Cost:
£3.097 million / $12.388 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 137 tons, 1.5 %
Armour: 1,349 tons, 14.9 %
- Belts: 489 tons, 5.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 225 tons, 2.5 %
- Armour Deck: 597 tons, 6.6 %
- Conning Tower: 37 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,113 tons, 23.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,315 tons, 36.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,046 tons, 22.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 0.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
12,151 lbs / 5,512 Kg = 118.3 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 14.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.34
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.18

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.77 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.83 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.00 ft / 9.75 m
- Forecastle (40 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Mid (45 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 20.88 ft / 6.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119.3 %
Waterplane Area: 23,068 Square feet or 2,143 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 134 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 89 lbs/sq ft or 436 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.55
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Sleipner, Niord

Hmmm...
You said:

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Firstly come Nordmarks first major units in 8 years, built to replace the BC's laid down in 1914.

If I am not mistaken, looking at Nordmark's list of capital ships, you should have these 7 BCs and 2 BBs:
- Oscar II
- Birger Jarl
- Göta Lejon
- Den Norske Løve
- Dristigheten
- Manligheten
- Tapperheten
- Oden
- Gustav V
... so I would guess that it makes more sense that those BBs will replace the Oscars, right?
Also, how many of these 1933 BBs will you build?

nope, Nordmark has

- Oscar II
- Folkunga Leon
- Göta Lejon
- Den Norske Løve
- Dristigheten
- Manligheten
- Tapperheten
- Oden
- Gustav V

Oscar II is to be sold, alongside Folkunga Leon.
Then when the BB33 Class ships come into service, the 3 Dristigheten class ships will be withdrawn from service, unless the treaty is non existant by that point, in which case they will be rebuilt.

That will give me

2 Gota Lejon Class BC's
2 Oden Class BB's
3 BB33 Class BB's

and either a supercruiser (if treaty is still there) or

3 Dristigheten Class BC's

I based that list of retained Nordmark capital ships from the thread here. There's no Folkunga Leon mentioned there...
... but there is a Folkunga Lion there. ;-)
The reason I missed it is because the names are at the bottom of the design list. It's not mentioned in the second post. ("2. Göta Lejon battlecruiser, laid down 1911, three ships, the two first named Göta Lejon and Den Norske Løve.)
BTW, You'll have to get rid of either the Göta Lejon or Den Norske Løve or violate the CT.

doh, my spelling is terrible

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BTW, You'll have to get rid of either the Göta Lejon or Den Norske Løve or violate the CT.

I don't think so!!!!!

2*Gota Lejon @ 26929t each therefore 53858t total
2*Oden Class @ 40359t each therefore 80718t total
3*BB33 Class @ 39201t each therefore 117603t total

Folkunga Lion will be disposed of in 1934, and Oscar II is expected to be sold in late 1933.

That leaves the 3 Dristigheten class ships which will be scrapped/sold if the CT is still standing when the BB33's enter service, and if the CT hasn't been replaced or renewed by 1937 they will be refitted.

Actually it's not quite right what I said. After all, it depends on when you lay down the keels of all three BB33s...

well one will be laid down in q1, 1 in q3, and 1 in q1, 1934

Right, only 8 of the TB's will be built, and Hök will not be laid down at this time. 16 of these light patrol/gun boats will be built, plus a number of new cruisers.

Coastal Gun Boat 1933, Nordmark Gunboat laid down 1933

Displacement:
192 t light; 200 t standard; 220 t normal; 236 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
164.91 ft / 160.00 ft x 22.00 ft x 5.75 ft (normal load)
50.27 m / 48.77 m x 6.71 m x 1.75 m

Armament:
2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
Weight of broadside 31 lbs / 14 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.75" / 19 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 2,000 shp / 1,492 Kw = 20.99 kts
Range 2,800nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 36 tons

Complement:
28 - 37

Cost:
£0.086 million / $0.343 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 3 tons, 1.3 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 1.3 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 58 tons, 26.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 117 tons, 53.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 27 tons, 12.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 4.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
376 lbs / 171 Kg = 27.8 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 11.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.380
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.27 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 13.50 ft / 4.11 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Mid (40 %): 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
- Stern: 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
- Average freeboard: 9.58 ft / 2.92 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 138.7 %
Waterplane Area: 2,227 Square feet or 207 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 137 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 29 lbs/sq ft or 141 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.82
- Longitudinal: 5.92
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

GB33 1-16