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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 9:27pm

Houkokusho Taisho 19 Nen 9 Getsu 30 Nichi

Wow, actually posting the report on time for once...
Hopefully no errors...

Japan’s Naval Developments – Q3/1932

A. Industrial Allocation

27/27 factories producing warship material = 27,000 t. 6,190 tons stockpiled materials available. 350 tons 'found'. Total materials available: 33,540 t. 20,516 t are used. 13,024 t materials stockpiled.

0/27 factories are dedicated to producing infrastructure material, = 0x 0.1 = 0.0 points.

B. Infrastructure Development

None.

C. Naval Construction


Kure Navy Yard, Kure (Honshu)
Slip V-1A => Sumeragi Subaru laid down 7/1/1932. Receives 1125 tons.
Slip I-1A => IC-91 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-1B => IC-92 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock V-1A => IC-121 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Free-floating: IC-112 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IO-25 receives 363 tons.
Free-floating: IO-26 receives 363 tons.
Free-floating: IC-80 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: Chitose receives 1740 tons.
Free-floating: CVLT The Flight Deck Casino receives 1350 tons.

Yokosuka Navy Yard, Yokosuka (Honshu)
Slip V-2A => Sumeragi Hokuto laid down 7/1/1932. Receives 1125 tons.
Slip I-2A => IC-93 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-2B => IC-94 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock 0-2A => idle
Free-floating: IO-27 receives 363 tons.
Free-floating: IO-28 receives 363 tons.
Free-floating: IC-110 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: Chiyodo receives 1740 tons.

Kawasaki Co, Kobe (Honshu)
Slip V-3A => Zagato receives 2323 tons. Launched 8/1/1932.
Slip II-3A => IC-87 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-3A => IC-95 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock II-3A => IC-125 receives 0 tons.
Free-floating: IO-21 receives 363 tons.
Free-floating: IC-66 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-104 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.

Mitsubushi Co, Nagasaki (Kyushu)
Slip V-4A => Emeraude receives 2323 tons. Launched 8/1/1932.
Slip II-4A => IC-88 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-4A => IC-96 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock II-4A => Sakurazuka Seishirou laid down 7/1/1932. Receives 1125 tons.
Free-floating: IO-22 receives 363 tons.
Free-floating: IC-67 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-105 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.

Fukuoka Navy Yard, Fukuoka (Kyushu)
Slip III-5A => IC-81 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip II-5A => IC-89 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-5A => IC-97 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock IV-5A => IC-122 receives 0 tons.
Free-floating: IO-15 receives 261 tons.
Free-floating: IO-23 receives 363 tons.
Free-floating: IC-68 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-101 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: Hatakaze refit, receives 223 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: Asanagi refit, receives 223 tons. Completed.

Hakodate Navy Yard, Hakodate (Hokkaido)
Slip III-6A => IC-82 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip II-6A => IC-90 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-6A => IC-98 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Free-floating: IO-16 receives 261 tons.
Free-floating: IO-24 receives 363 tons.
Free-floating: IC-69 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.

Aomori Navy Yard, Aomori (Honshu)
Slip III-7A => IC-83 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-7A => IC-99 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock I-7A => idle
Free-floating: IO-17 receives 261 tons.
Free-floating: IC-70 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-106 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: Kamikaze refit, receives 223 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: Asakaze refit, receives 223 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: Harukaze refit, receives 223 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: Matsukaze refit, receives 223 tons. Completed.

Kagoshima Navy Yard, Kagoshima (Kyushu)
Slip III-8A => IC-84 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-8A => IC-100 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock I-8A => idle
Slip 0-8A => IC-119 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip 0-8B => IC-120 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock 0-8A => idle
Free-floating: IO-18 receives 261 tons.
Free-floating: IC-71 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-78 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-79 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-107 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-111 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: I-1 refit, receives 165 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: I-2 refit, receives 165 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: I-3 refit, receives 48 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: I-4 refit, receives 48 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: I-5 refit, receives 48 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: I-6 refit, receives 48 tons. Completed.
Free-floating: I-7 refit, receives 48 tons. Completed.

Wakayama Navy Yard, Wakayama (Honshu)
Slip III-9A => IC-85 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-9A => IC-113 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock I-9A => idle
Free-floating: IO-19 receives 261 tons.
Free-floating: IC-72 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-108 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.

Tokushima Navy Yard, Tokushima (Shikoku)
Slip III-10A => IC-86 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-10A => IC-114 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock I-10A => idle
Free-floating: IO-20 receives 261 tons.
Free-floating: IC-73 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-109 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.

Niigata Navy Yard, Niigata (Honshu)
Slip I-11A => IC-115 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-11B => IC-116 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock III-11A => IC-123 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Free-floating: IC-74 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-75 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-102 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.

Niihama Navy Yard, Niihama (Shikoku)
Slip I-12A => IC-117 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Slip I-12B => IC-118 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Dock III-12A => IC-124 receives 0 tons. Launched 8/10/1932.
Free-floating: IC-76 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-77 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.
Free-floating: IC-103 receives 0 tons. Completed 8/20/1932.


PBR 76-89 receive total of 105 tons (15*7)
PT 88-100 receive total of 480 tons (12*40)

D. Transactions
350 tons materials 'found lying on the street'...

E. Other Notes
IC 66-80 starting shakedown crusies.
IC 101-111 starting shakedown cruises.
PBR 76-85 completing shakedown cruises.
PBR 86-89 starting shakedown cruises.
PT 88-95 starting and completing shakedown cruises.
PT 96-100 starting shakedown cruises.
Akari, Aika, Alice, Alicia and Akira (CL Aria class) continuing shakedown cruises.

New units laid down this quarter:
Sumeragi Subaru, Sumeragi Hokuto, Sakurazuka Seishirou (TB class, training cruiser) each requiring 5613 tons and 15 months.
PBR 76-89 (PBR-1 class) each requiring 7 tons and 1 month.
PT 88-100 (PT-1 class) each requiring 40 tons and 1 month.

Repairs.
None


Refits
Kamikaze class refit, each requiring 223 tons and 3 months.
Ie Ichi class refit, each requiring 165 tons and 3 months.
Ie Ni class refit, each requiring 48 tons and 1.5 months.

F. Updated Order of Battle, 9/30/32

Note: X(Y)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Limited warships:
Battleships: 9(0)+0
Aircraft Carriers: 4(0)+2
Heavy Cruisers: 9(0)+0
Light Cruisers: 21(0)+7
Destroyer Leader: 18(0)+0
Destroyers class 1: 0(0)+0
Destroyers class 2: 62(0)+0
Submarines: 248(0)+48
Coast Defense Vessels: 12(0)+0
Training carrier: 0(0)+1
Training Cruisers: 0(0)+3

Non-limited ships
Destroyers class 3: 223(0)+0
Gunboats: 46(0)+0
Minelayers: 27(0)+0
Minesweepers: 18(0)+0
Submarine Chasers class 1: 30(0)+0
Submarine Chasers class 2: 42(0)+0
Corvettes: 30(0)+0
Patrol boats: 85(0)+14
MPV: 9(0)+0
CCB: 10(0)+0
MTB: 87(0)+13

Auxiliaries
Ammunition ships: 3(0)+0
Oilers: 9(0)+0
Cargo ships: 31(0)+0
Transport ships: 16(0)+0
Tenders: 7(0)+0
Repair ships: 5(0)+0
Netlayer and target towing vessel: 4(0)+0
Naval Tugs: 12(0)+0

Special
Exploration ships: 2(0)+0
Museum ships: 4(0)+0

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 9:28pm

Chosen Q3/1932

Chosen’s Naval Developments – Q3/1932

A. Industrial Allocation

0/4 factories producing warship material = 0 t. 0t stockpiled materials available. 0 t are used, 0 tons materials stockpiled.

4/4 factories are dedicated to producing infrastructure material = 0.4 pts.

B. Infrastructure Development
0.4 points are transferred to COSINE

C. Naval Construction

Ryojun
S1: idle
D0: idle
D1: idle

Dairen
D0: idle
D1: idle
D2: idle

D. Transactions
None

E. Other Notes

New units laid down this quarter:
None

F. Updated Order of Battle, 9/30/32

Note: X(Y)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Battle Cruiser: 1(0)+0
Carrier: 1(0)+0
Heavy Cruiser: 1(0)+0
Armored Cruiser: 1(0)+0
1st class Cruiser: 2(0)+0
Light Cruiser: 3(0)+0
2nd class Cruiser: 3(0)+0
Protected Cruiser: 4(0)+0
Gunboats: 2(1)+0
River Gunboats: 2(0)+0
Destroyers 2nd class: 13(0)+0
Destroyers 3rd class: 6(0)+0
TPB 1st class: 6(0)+0
TPB 2nd class: 7(0)+0

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 9:29pm

Formosa Q3/1932

Formosa’s Naval Developments – Q3/1932

A. Industrial Allocation

0/4 factories producing warship material = 0 t. 0 tons stockpiled materials available. 0 t are used, 0 tons materials stockpiled.

4/4 factories are dedicated to producing infrastructure material = 0.4 pts.

B. Infrastructure Development
0.4 points are transferred to COSINE

C. Naval Construction

Kaoshiun
D0: idle
D0: idle
D1: idle

Tahei
D0: idle
D1: idle
D2: idle

D. Transactions
None

E. Other Notes

New units laid down this quarter:
None

F. Updated Order of Battle, 9/30/32

Note: X(Y)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Battle Cruiser: 1(0)+0
Carrier: 1(0)+0
Heavy Cruiser: 1(0)+0
Armored Cruiser: 2(0)+0
1st class Cruiser: 1(0)+0
Light Cruiser: 3(0)+0
2nd class Cruiser: 1(0)+0
Protected Cruiser: 3(0)+0
Gunboats: 2(0)+0
River gunboat: 1(0)+0
Destroyers 2nd class: 11(0)+0
Destroyers 3rd class: 3(0)+0
TPB 1st class: 5(0)+0
TPB 2nd class: 7(0)+0

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 9:30pm

Pacifica Q3/1932

Pacifica’s Naval Developments Q3/1932

A. Industrial Allocation

0/1 factories producing warship material = 0 t. 0 tons stockpiled materials available. 0 t are used, 0 tons materials stockpiled.

1/1 factories are dedicated to producing infrastructure material = 0.1 pts.

B. Infrastructure Development
0.1 points are transferred to COSINE

C. Naval Construction

Agana (Guam)
D1A: idle
D1B: idle
D0: idle

D. Transactions
None

E. Other Notes

New units laid down this quarter:
None

F. Updated Order of Battle, 9/30/32

Note: X(Y)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Armored Cruiser: 1(0)+0
Light Cruiser: 2(0)+0
Destroyers: 3(0)+0
TPB/DDE: 2(0)+0

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 9:34pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Rooijen10
D. Transactions
350 tons materials found lying on the street...


Huh?!?!

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 9:36pm

Tokyo Babiron, Japan Seagoing Training Cruiser laid down 1932

Displacement:
5,613 t light; 5,856 t standard; 6,546 t normal; 7,098 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
548.59 ft / 530.00 ft x 49.00 ft x 18.00 ft (normal load)
167.21 m / 161.54 m x 14.94 m x 5.49 m

Armament:
6 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (3x2 guns), 105.00lbs / 47.63kg shells, 1930 Model
Quick firing guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (4x2 guns), 34.00lbs / 15.42kg shells, 1930 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x4 guns), 2.00lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (4x3 guns), 0.57lbs / 0.26kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.09lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 926 lbs / 420 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
8 - 24.0" / 609.6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 390.00 ft / 118.87 m 8.50 ft / 2.59 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 113 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 3.00" / 76 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.45" / 37 mm, Conning tower: 2.75" / 70 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 65,881 shp / 49,147 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 7,350nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,242 tons

Complement:
363 - 473

Cost:
£2.571 million / $10.283 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 115 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 1,115 tons, 17.0 %
- Belts: 404 tons, 6.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 212 tons, 3.2 %
- Armour Deck: 478 tons, 7.3 %
- Conning Tower: 21 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 1,945 tons, 29.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,338 tons, 35.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 933 tons, 14.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5,916 lbs / 2,683 Kg = 57.4 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 13.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.82 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Stern: 15.50 ft / 4.72 m
- Average freeboard: 17.69 ft / 5.39 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.0 %
Waterplane Area: 17,830 Square feet or 1,656 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 381 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.86
- Longitudinal: 1.33
- Overall: 0.90
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 9:39pm

Quoted

Originally posted by HoOmAn

Quoted

Originally posted by Rooijen10
D. Transactions
350 tons materials found lying on the street...


Huh?!?!

Well, if you have read one of the other nation's reports (should be obvious in that person's report), you'll know who 'left' it there.
:-)
Still I notice it needs one minute alteration...

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 9:44pm

Must have missed it. No idea what you´re referring to.....

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 10:10pm

Mexico has lost 350 tons this quarter......

Makes me wonder if there's some backroom deal between Japan and Mexico to sell Hosho, sorry, Shokaku to Mexico.

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 10:39pm

Is the training cruiser rated as normal cruiser tonnage or;

Quoted

(b) Without prejudice to the general rules, and provided that due notice be given to the other Contracting Power, reasonable variation from the conditions prescribed in Part 3, Chapter H, Article VI, Paragraph (a) above, in so far as may be necessary for the purposes of a special experiment, may be permitted as a temporary measure.

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 10:50pm

The training cruisers are rated as 'Vessels retained for training purposes' as given in Part 3, Chapter H, Article IX, Paragraph 3 (C).

Quoted

(c) Training ships may be acquired through the conversion of existing

or civilian vessels, or purpose-built as required.

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 10:56pm

Why does Japan need three purpose built training cruisers? Wouldn't some of the older vessels fit the bill for training cruiser? And why more than one?

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 11:03pm

However they mount 6x150mm guns and torpedoes and so cannot count as training cruisers. Probably don't carry aircraft on part of space. Not sure how to use Part 3 (4) in this case - maybe build the ship - then remove half the boilers?

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 11:22pm

I thought someone would say that...

Quoted

3. Other surface vessels



The following is to be carried out:

(1) Removal of all main guns in excess of four;

(2) Removal of all torpedo tubes from cruisers;

(3) Removal of all aviation facilities and accessories;

(4) Removal of one half of the boilers from cruisers.

This clearly deals with conversion of existing ships to training ships only, not purpose-built training ships. When you read the training ship bit, you'll see that there are absolutely no limits on purpose-built training ships except for the numbers given in Part 3, Chapter H, Article IV. So yes, you could build your 40,000 ton Principe Eugenio di Savoia as a training ship.
As for Part 3, Chapter H, Article IX, Paragraph 3 (D), a nation just has to give its word that it will not use those training ships for combatant purpose (as if anyone would believe that).

... hmmm.... looking at Japan's reports, I get the impression that I forgot to add something... but I don't know what...

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Wednesday, October 18th 2006, 11:40pm

Well, yes. He could build the 40kts BB as a training ship - but at the very moment it is finished he either has to rate it against capital ship tonnage or scrap it because of chapter H/IV.

You´re only allowed to keep a capital ship as training vessel if it is due to disposal....which brings me to the major point here: Rules under chapter H cannot be used for newly build ships. Chapter H is written to deal with the disposal and change of ownership of warships.

So, yes, Japan may retain 3 (three) cruisers as training ships - if it has three cruisers that are otherwise due to disposal according to chapter K/I(b).

Don´t mix apples with oranges.

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Thursday, October 19th 2006, 1:16am

Quoted

You´re only allowed to keep a capital ship as training vessel if it is due to disposal....which brings me to the major point here: Rules under chapter H cannot be used for newly build ships. Chapter H is written to deal with the disposal and change of ownership of warships.


If that's the case, then why does H, IX, 3 read:
(emphasis added)

Quoted


3. Other surface vessels



The following is to be carried out:

(1) Removal of all main guns in excess of four;

(2) Removal of all torpedo tubes from cruisers;

(3) Removal of all aviation facilities and accessories;

(4) Removal of one half of the boilers from cruisers.



(b) Training ships may be modified to ensure machinery, weaponry and fittings are in accordance with those in use by the Contracting Power.


(c) Training ships may be acquired through the conversion of existing or civilian vessels, or purpose-built as required.


(d) The Contracting Power concerned undertakes that vessels retained in accordance with the provisions of this Article shall not be used for any combatant purpose.


Now H, IX 3(d) might throw a spanner in the works, but it's right there in the treaty: you can have purpose-built training ships that don't fall in the Unlimited category.


As for why three - didn't Japan build three CTs historically?

(Perhaps Japan might be interested in building the Filipino Sabtang design instead - it's Unlimited...)

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Thursday, October 19th 2006, 2:29am

The historical La Argentina was specifically built as a training cruiser. She had three triple 6 inch guns turrets and six torpedo tubes, and could supposedly make 31 knots.

I image that the idea of purpose built training ships was for the more traditional sailing type vessels and now the training carriers.

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Thursday, October 19th 2006, 7:18pm

Quoted

Well, yes. He could build the 40kts BB as a training ship - but at the very moment it is finished he either has to rate it against capital ship tonnage or scrap it because of chapter H/IV.

Taking a look at that bit, you are correct Hooman.

Quoted

Notwithstanding Part 3, Chapter H, Article I, a Contracting Power

may retain the following:
(a) One capital ship due to be disposed of, for experimental purposes
(b) One capital ship due to be disposed of, for training-purposes
(c) One aviation training ship
(d) Two cruisers, one of which may be of Sub-Category A, for training purposes
(e) One destroyer of Sub-Category B, for training purposes
(f) One submarine of Sub-Category B, for training purposes

I find it slightly odd that that is only mentioned with capital ships and not with the cruisers, destroyers and submarines.
But as Swamphen pointed out, in Part 3, Chapter H, Article IX, Paragraph 3 (c) it is clearly stated that one can lay down purpose-built training ships (which would include the capital ship)...
... so there is actually a conflict between Part 3, Chapter H, Article IV and Part 3, Chapter H, Article IX, Paragraph 3 (c).
You know I was curious who it was that put 'purpose-built' in there and looked around a bit. It was first mentioned in this post.

Quoted

Now H, IX 3(d) might throw a spanner in the works

That is the hard part. In my eyes any ship that is converted to training ships as well as purpose-built training ships can be used for combatant purposes. One nation will have to trust the word of another nation...

Quoted

As for why three - didn't Japan build three CTs historically?

Ran across that one in Jane's... which was actually what I started out with. I wasn't planning to build it until the 1929 treaty talks allowed me to build them. After a while it slowly changed into the one as you can see posted a bit higher. Torpedoes were actually the last things I added to the design when I saw Part 3, Chapter H, Article IX, Paragraph 3 (a-2).

Quoted

Perhaps Japan might be interested in building the Filipino Sabtang design instead - it's Unlimited...

Not really. It's small and it is slow...

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Thursday, October 19th 2006, 8:01pm

Hmm... maybe I should build that 15x7.5" Heavy Cruiser I had planned as a TRAINING Ship...

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Thursday, October 19th 2006, 11:33pm

If Australia continues with it's announced plans to withdraw from the Treaty, it can build whatever it likes, without having to call it a "training" ship.