A BB design for Columbia

Fyrwulf

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 4:20am

Not with Colombia pretty much being an Atlantian puppet.

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Ithekro

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 4:49am

Puppets come in many shapes and forms. Sometimes what looks like a puppet is actually the puppet's master...the big guy is the dummy.

Other times you'll see what looks like two men, and one will actually be a puppet, but its so life-like you would be hard pressed to say which is which.

Who are puppets and who are masters? That is the question of Wesworld.

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Fyrwulf

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 5:05am

Could be wrong, you'd have to ask Smiles about it, but I believe the present government was, um, installed by the Atlantians. At any rate, their friendly relationship and this deal would probably include the future use of an Atlantian Type 3 slip/dock.

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thesmilingassassin

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 7:09am

Oh heck no, they are democratically elected. The reason for cozy relations is the fact that both nations were dealing with Anarchists causing trouble along the border.

Its entirely possible that Colombia would be granted use of Atlantean dockyards.

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Alikchi

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 7:46am

I really like the rebuild.. bringing a 1911-era BB up to 26 knots is pretty impressive.

Was it an Atlantean doctrine to build relatively fast BBs?

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thesmilingassassin

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 8:37am

The Barranquilla's (ex-Poseidon) speed increase is seen as nessassary if she's to compete with the other South American capital units. The 3.5 knot speed increase isn't really spectacular when you look at the Italian rebuilds of the Cavour's/Doria's, but to be fair they didn't retain their Q turrets.

The Poseidon basically set the speed standards in the Atlantean fleet for the period she was built up untill the end of the war when Melampus was built. To understand things better heres a list of Atlantean ships worth noting:

BB Eumelos, 1931, 28.18 kts
BB Memnon, 1929, 28.23 kts
BB Melampus,1919, 26.50 kts
BC Vengeance, 1918, 31.00 kts
BB Tyrrhenia,1913, 22.50 kts
BB Atlas,1911, 22.50 kts
BB Poseidon, 1910, 22.50 kts
BC Azaes, 1909/10, 27.1 knots
BB Mneseus, 1908, 21.5 knots
AC Lyra, 1908, 25 knots
BC Arcturus, 1907, 25.5 knots
AC Defence, 1907, 22 knots
BB Calessus, 1906, 21 knots
AC Cleito, 1906, 22 knots
AC Neptune, 1905, 22 knots
PD Etamin, 1905, 16 knots
PD Tyrrhenia, 1904, 16 knots
AC Callixtus, 1904, 22 knots

Highlighted are ships that made significant leaps in terms of capability's.

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HoOmAn

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 2:56pm

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Originally posted by Red Admiral
Columbia has Type 2 slips and docks at maximum, so length is limited to 170m.

Why should a type be maximum?

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The Rock Doctor

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 3:45pm

The NPC infrastructure thread confirms Colombia has class two docks. While Colombia could certainly expand these, it's best for small powers to avoid generating a need to develop specialized infrastructure to support a single ship.

There's a reason India's restricting construction to 220 m and under...

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Desertfox

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 3:50pm

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Puppets come in many shapes and forms. Sometimes what looks like a puppet is actually the puppet's master...the big guy is the dummy.

ery very true.

Speaking of which, dont get yor hopes up on Columbia getting Poseidon, just wait until I convince Wes to donate her to Mexico for "the good of mankind".

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Ithekro

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 6:41pm

Planning on doing some Mexican adventuring?

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Red Admiral

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 6:44pm

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Why should a type be maximum?

Type 2 ships are what Columbia can currently sustain, of course they can build longer slips and docks but it costs.

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HoOmAn

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 7:45pm

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Originally posted by Red Admiral

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Why should a type be maximum?

Type 2 ships are what Columbia can currently sustain, of course they can build longer slips and docks but it costs.

Ah, I see. But I doubt it´s a problem. If the EAS can affort a large CV Columbia surely can pay for a larger dock....

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Fyrwulf

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Monday, July 31st 2006, 7:47pm

It's actually fairly affordable. I did it with spare tonnage, so there's no reason Columbia can't do it if they put in an all-out effort into upgrading their yards.