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Well after some tinkering I have come up with a new line of cruisers which I believe satisfy the revised DRfG. So anyhow I’m posting for comments/criticism. I have not settled on what mix to build- straight 8,000 tonners, 8’s and 6’s or all of them.

The first is the DDL, the armor is merely meant to turn destroyer common rounds. For comparison, the same vessel sans belt and deck armor could make 36.25kts.

Second is the best 6,000 ton cruiser I could manage. It comes close to my 80-120mm belt/34 knot desire. It seems to be adequate in comparison to the India/Filipino forces, retaining the edge in speed.

Lastly are two 8,000 ton cruisers.



Roode Haes, Netherlands Destroyer Leader laid down 1932

Displacement:
2,852 t light; 2,993 t standard; 3,306 t normal; 3,556 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
475.96 ft / 462.60 ft x 44.29 ft x 13.94 ft (normal load)
145.07 m / 141.00 m x 13.50 m x 4.25 m

Armament:
5 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 110.23lbs / 50.00kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority aft, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm guns in single mounts, 0.07lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 636 lbs / 288 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
8 - 24.0" / 609.6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 462.60 ft / 141.00 m 12.30 ft / 3.75 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -
4th: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
5th: 0.31" / 8 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0.59" / 15 mm, Conning tower: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 48,761 shp / 36,375 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 563 tons

Complement:
217 - 283

Cost:
£1.610 million / $6.441 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 78 tons, 2.3 %
Armour: 437 tons, 13.2 %
- Belts: 249 tons, 7.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 35 tons, 1.1 %
- Armour Deck: 143 tons, 4.3 %
- Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 1,352 tons, 40.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 945 tons, 28.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 454 tons, 13.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,226 lbs / 556 Kg = 11.4 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 12.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.46
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.405
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.44 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.75 ft / 7.24 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.75 ft / 7.24 m (15.75 ft / 4.80 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Stern: 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Average freeboard: 17.35 ft / 5.29 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 152.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 117.7 %
Waterplane Area: 13,128 Square feet or 1,220 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 83 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 202 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.20
- Overall: 0.54
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Kruiningen, Netherlands Light Cruiser laid down 1932

Displacement:
5,758 t light; 5,993 t standard; 7,163 t normal; 8,100 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
568.77 ft / 551.18 ft x 50.85 ft x 18.64 ft (normal load)
173.36 m / 168.00 m x 15.50 m x 5.68 m

Armament:
6 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns (3x2 guns), 110.23lbs / 50.00kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 773 lbs / 350 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 24.0" / 609.6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2.99" / 76 mm 400.26 ft / 122.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 112 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.46" / 37 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.59" / 15 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
4th: 0.59" / 15 mm - -
5th: 0.31" / 8 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.34" / 34 mm, Conning tower: 2.99" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 72,452 shp / 54,050 Kw = 33.50 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,107 tons

Complement:
389 - 506

Cost:
£2.637 million / $10.548 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 94 tons, 1.3 %
Armour: 1,063 tons, 14.8 %
- Belts: 479 tons, 6.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 88 tons, 1.2 %
- Armour Deck: 472 tons, 6.6 %
- Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2,139 tons, 29.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,387 tons, 33.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,405 tons, 19.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 75 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6,910 lbs / 3,134 Kg = 64.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 12.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.84 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.69 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.98 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.92 ft / 7.29 m (15.91 ft / 4.85 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 15.91 ft / 4.85 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.91 ft / 4.85 m
- Stern: 15.91 ft / 4.85 m
- Average freeboard: 17.68 ft / 5.39 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.3 %
Waterplane Area: 19,066 Square feet or 1,771 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 371 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.87
- Longitudinal: 1.21
- Overall: 0.90
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate


The twin 75mm guns are in 'X' mount, the single deck edge 75mm mounts at superstructure ends, with the quad 40mm tub mounted on the superstructure amidships. The single 20mm mounts are dispersed.
The torpedo tubes are four triples, two sets/side.
Miscellaneous wieght is for an catapult and two AC.
Average deck thickness is 34mm, concentrated over the 122m citadel as 40mm.


Ster , Netherlands Light Cruiser laid down 1932

Displacement:
8,024 t light; 8,388 t standard; 9,779 t normal; 10,891 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
565.49 ft / 544.62 ft x 59.06 ft x 22.31 ft (normal load)
172.36 m / 166.00 m x 18.00 m x 6.80 m

Armament:
12 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns (4x3 guns), 110.23lbs / 50.00kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1932 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
20 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (10x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm guns in single mounts, 0.07lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,462 lbs / 663 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 24.0" / 609.6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 362.53 ft / 110.50 m 11.15 ft / 3.40 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 3.15" / 80 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -
4th: 0.59" / 15 mm - -
5th: 0.31" / 8 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.40" / 36 mm, Conning tower: 3.54" / 90 mm

Deck armor averages 35.5mm, and is concentrated in one 45mm deck.

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 83,413 shp / 62,226 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,503 tons

Complement:
491 - 639

Cost:
£3.523 million / $14.094 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 178 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 1,598 tons, 16.3 %
- Belts: 664 tons, 6.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 335 tons, 3.4 %
- Armour Deck: 564 tons, 5.8 %
- Conning Tower: 35 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,462 tons, 25.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,711 tons, 37.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,755 tons, 18.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 75 tons, 0.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
12,387 lbs / 5,619 Kg = 115.6 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 14.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.477
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.22 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.88 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.98 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 24.54 ft / 7.48 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.54 ft / 7.48 m (16.54 ft / 5.04 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.54 ft / 5.04 m
- Stern: 16.54 ft / 5.04 m
- Average freeboard: 20.65 ft / 6.30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113.7 %
Waterplane Area: 21,819 Square feet or 2,027 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 498 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.88
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Deck armor averages 35.5mm, and is concentrated in one 45mm deck.


Windhond , Netherlands Light Cruiser laid down 1932

Displacement:
8,056 t light; 8,384 t standard; 9,789 t normal; 10,913 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
572.12 ft / 554.46 ft x 54.13 ft x 21.00 ft (normal load)
174.38 m / 169.00 m x 16.50 m x 6.40 m

Armament:
9 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns (3x3 guns), 107.15lbs / 48.60kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,126 lbs / 511 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 24.0" / 609.6 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.74" / 95 mm 393.70 ft / 120.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 1.46" / 37 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.59" / 15 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.59" / 15 mm
4th: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
5th: 0.31" / 8 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.47" / 37 mm, Conning tower: 3.74" / 95 mm

The 37.4mm Armor deck is concentrated in one 45mm sheet


Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 96,526 shp / 72,008 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,528 tons

Complement:
491 - 639

Cost:
£3.632 million / $14.529 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 141 tons, 1.4 %
Armour: 1,495 tons, 15.3 %
- Belts: 694 tons, 7.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 173 tons, 1.8 %
- Armour Deck: 590 tons, 6.0 %
- Conning Tower: 37 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,849 tons, 29.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,521 tons, 36.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,733 tons, 17.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,867 lbs / 4,929 Kg = 101.4 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 13.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.38
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.544
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.24 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.70 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.98 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 24.54 ft / 7.48 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.54 ft / 7.48 m (16.54 ft / 5.04 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.54 ft / 5.04 m
- Stern: 16.54 ft / 5.04 m
- Average freeboard: 20.65 ft / 6.30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.9 %
Waterplane Area: 21,675 Square feet or 2,014 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 94 lbs/sq ft or 458 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.83
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

The 37.4mm Armor deck is concentrated in one 45mm sheet