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Jan. 3rd

Last Decembers exercises with the American, Mexican, Chilean and Canadian fleets have been stated as a plesent surprize.

Of particular interest was the success of the ZRS Atlantes who's scouting ability's proved to be a significant force multiplier for the out numbered defending fleet, which consisted of a ragtag group of ships. The Mexican and Atlantean elements managed to overcome their doctinal differences fairly quickly due to their familiarity with American tactics.

With luck on their side the "Allied" fleets surviving carriers, ANS Alioth and HMCS Hermes managed to "sink the U.S.S. Constellation following an extensive shadowing effort from the ZRS Atlantes. Earlier action saw the Atlantean sub D-18 "strike" the U.S.S. Ranger with a torpedo forcing her to retire but not before she and the Constellation sank the U.S.S. Lake Champlain.

The action reached its climax when the two opposing forces battle fleets engaged each other with the end result of an allied retreat covered by a daring torpedo attack by the allied destroyers. In the end the "brown" fleet ended the senario, coming to the conclusion that continuing to attack would result in further losses and the likelyhood of the invasion force being mauled to the point of ineffectiveness.

Another benifit of the exercise was the interest expressed in a few Atlantean inovations, new and old. The Americans were quite interested in the MTB's and lading craft, while the Mexicans also expressed interest in the scouting blimps and MTB's.

Jan. 5th

Elements of the Atlantean caribbean fleet are about to embark on a west coast tour. The aircraft carrier Alioth, battleships Melampus and Theseus, two heavy cruisers, 4 light cruisers and two desdivs ( 10 ships) will tour Mexican, American and Canadian ports. The Transport Gadir will also tour with the fleet breifly before she arrives at San Deigo to demonstrate her landing craft for the Americans who have expressed interest in aquiring ships of this type.

The fleet will also tour south American ports on the return trip

Jan. 28th

The Brazilian government has expressed interest in aquiring the services of a few Atlantean slipways. It's not know just what the details of the arrangement are but its rumored that the Brazilians wish to lay downa pair of battlecruisers to match the recent Argentinian battlecruisers currently building in Italy. The news has sparked considerable debate in parliment as a result of the percieved conflict of interest in reguards to the naval arms race in South America and the Atlantean wishes of limiting this arms race. Some have loudly proclaimed that country's like Italy could care less if they destabilize the region so it would be wise to keep the balance of powers relatively equal.


Feb. 22

The Raj of India has annouced that he will abdicate the throne, following a series of illnesses and mishaps. The Raj made the annoucment in a radio broadcast stating "it is with a heavy heart that I state my intention to abdicate the throne on Victory Day [12 April]. At that time, I shall have the honor of presiding at the coronation of my son, Crown Prince Shrinivas, as the next emperor of India."

The news was met in Atlantis with both sadness and enthusiasm. "Rajiv Canagasundrum and his wife Savita have demontrated their diplomatic savy on many occations, most notably in the cleito treaty negotiations where not only did they handle heated debates with a distinct clarity but even tabled preposals that left most dignatary's satisfied at the end of the treaty negotiations." stated Atlantean prime minister Crassius Dominia.

"We extend our best wishes to the Raj as he turns to a well deserved respite from his duty's as Raj and we look forward to setting up a diolog with the future Raj, Crown Prince Shrinivas who no doubt will rule with his Fathers wisdom and strength".

Feb. 26th

The national holiday of Anthesteria has begun. On this day Duecalion, the Son of King Klydon and survivor of the great deluge along with his wife, Pyrrha, sailed into the Mediterranean in search of a new home following the distruction of their homeland by a great deluge.

Mar. 12th

The national holiday of Anthesteria is now over. On this day Duecalion and his wife, Pyrrha, made landfall after a long voyage from Atlantis. Historians are at odds as to just where they made landfall. The various theory's place their destination as Greece, Albania, Turkey, Sardinia, Crete or even Italy.

Mar. 14th

Prime minister Crassius Dominia has extended an invitation to King Carl Phillip of Nordmark to discuss various issues. The invitation seems to stem from the fact that Atlantis and South Africa, a Nordish allie have enjoyed good relations in the wake of the Pretoria non-agression pact. Nordmark has also made considerable efforts to premote peace in the Baltic region.

Italy dit;

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Argentina, as a sovereign nation, has a right, no a duty, to protect itself and its citizens from the untoward agression shown by many of its neighbours. We feel that there would be more credit to the Lanteans' arguments if they weren't quite so hypocritical.

Another Italy dit;

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..it seems to be that the normal pair, Atlantis and South Africa, just wish to interfere with our affairs as normal.

This coming from a nation who's also supporting the Argies.

I'm not aware of any Atlantean agression towards the Argentinians....

Quick recap of events in South America

Formation of 4 party alliance
Nordish/Argentinian war following Argentinian agression
Atlantean support for Chilean sovereignty
Italian support for argentinian support

Imagine how the South Africans and Nordish feel about Italian support for Argentina.

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Formation of 4 party alliance
Nordish/Argentinian war following Argentinian agression
Atlantean support for Chilean sovereignty
Italian support for argentinian support

You also forgot;

Chile attacks Argentinean ships and basically fires off their guns at anything that moves in search of Harlock.

Nordmark wrongly blames Argentina for death of Royal Family caused by Nordmark themselves, thus inflaming international opinion against Argentina to lend support to themselves.

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You also forgot;

Chile attacks Argentinean ships and basically fires off their guns at anything that moves in search of Harlock.

To which Atlantis took steps to end diplomatically. IIRC the Italian responce was rather threatening.

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Originally posted by Red Admiral
Nordmark wrongly blames Argentina for death of Royal Family caused by Nordmark themselves, thus inflaming international opinion against Argentina to lend support to themselves.

All discovered inhindsight and acknowledged by Nordmark.

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To which Atlantis took steps to end diplomatically. IIRC the Italian responce was rather threatening.

Actually Italy's response was to stop selling them weapons systems. Atlantis' response was to start selling them more weapons.

At least Atlantis has had a consistant foriegn policy in reguards to South America. Argentinia was the aggressor in reguards to the Falklands, no question about that. With thier 4 part alliance they threatened every other country in the region.

The difference between Atlantis and Italy is that Atlantis signed armament deals before the client got feisty, where as Italy signed a deal after.

Atlantis has not been "linked" to any attempted coups, Italy has (proof or no proof).

Factor in Italys critisism of the creation of Byzantium and their fast BC's occationally camping out in Cadiz and Italy manages to paint itself into a corner diplomatically.

Mar. 16th

At the request of Nordish diplomats, South African diplomats have also been invited to join in on the planned talks. "It was suggested by the Nords that the talks should be extended to include the South Africans.." stated Atlantean prime minister Crassius Dominia. "Given the state of Atlantean/South African relations we agreed that this could prove to be most productive".

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You also forgot;

Chile attacks Argentinean ships and basically fires off their guns at anything that moves in search of Harlock.

No. The Argentinean ships fired first on the freighter, the Chilean warships rendered assistance and managed to neutralize the attackers. The world just seemed to severly overreact against Chile, when Chile did nothing but try to defend shipping from pirates and bandits.

As for Harlock, they got jumpy in a storm, and later it was proven (I think) that the pirate Harlock was out in that area that night (because the Chilean didn't sink the Japanese freighter). Plus later the Chilean, Indians, and Danes successfully engaged Harlock after another Chilean warship was crippled by the pirate.

I started visiting the board right around when that battle happened. If someone gets a chance, can I get filled in on Harlock and any other pirates of note?

Well I can't speak about the other pirates in Southeast Asia, but Captain Harlock did manage to escape with what was left of his crew. While his old battleship Arcadia was lost in the battle with the Indians, Danes, and Chileans, the pirate cruiser Deathshadow has not been seen in over a year, but was never claimed to have been sunk by any power. (Oh the otherhand I've not posted any news for a sim year either, just reports mostly).

There are also unconfirmed reports of yet another cruiser like ship in the Pacific (possibly an old auxilery cruiser from the Great War) but none of those were ever able to confirm either what the vessel was nor if it was a pirate vessel, as it has never actually attack anyone to my knowledge. This vessels is suspected have been rigged up to look like a freighter (in one instance the Queen Emeraldas ) but operates at a much higher speed than a freighter such as the Emeraldas could operate as they it evaded Chilean destroyers and has yet to be tracked down for long even by floatplanes. Plus the Emeraldas has a good reputation for delivering goods on time with little fuss. Its not cheap, but reliable.

In a way the tension between the greater powers could mirror those of the lesser powers they supply with arms.

So far Chile and Argentian have not come to blows, and Chile is more focused on Bolivia and Peru again at this time with the increasing border skirmishes, raids, and other problems.

Atlantis initialy was neutral in reguards to the South American arms race and durring the Nordish/Argentinian war worked closely with, of all nations, Iberia to keep the violence contained.

Following that war Atlantis made no arms deals with the 4 party alliance, Chile at the time seemed to be the more reliable source of stability in the region seeing as they too took a neutral stance even though their old advasary, Argentina, was up to no good. As a result Atlantis helped them develope a series of cruisers in addition to selling Chile floatplane tenders and subchasers.

Italy in contrast somehow deduced that Argentina, an agressive nation who already incited anti-european sentiment in the region and who started the war with its take over of the Falklands, was the more reliable sorce for peace and stability in the region and decided to build two battlecruisers for them.

There are other regional issues but this would be the main issue at the root of tentions.

The Argies didn't touch the Falklands (don't know why) they went for South Georgia (just about undefended at the time).

Wops I'm thinking in historical terms again.....

*slaps his hand* Baaaad!

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Factor in Italys critisism of the creation of Byzantium and their fast BC's occationally camping out in Cadiz and Italy manages to paint itself into a corner diplomatically.

Hmm. Why would Italy criticise the creation of an Atlantean colony in the eastern med? Maybe its because they have absolutely no business in the region at all. Whats wrong with the large amount of cooperation between Italy and Iberia apart from the fact that Atlantis gets nervous by it as she'll probably lose if both go for her...lets not extrapolate further.

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The Argentinean ships fired first on the freighter

A legitimate attempt at boarding. The freighter didn't stop so warning shots were fired, and probably continued.

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Do I sense...tension between Atlantis and Italy?

Tension? Whatever do you mean? Italy's main beef is that the Lanteans are so hypocritical.

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Italy in contrast somehow deduced that Argentina, an agressive nation who already incited anti-european sentiment in the region and who started the war with its take over of South Georgia, was the more reliable sorce for peace and stability in the region and decided to build two battlecruisers for them.

Long standing friendship between Argentina and Italy since the 1900s has nothing to do with it.

Again here is the hypocritical Atlantis. Penalise Argentina and continue to paint them as "baddies" whilst treat Germany which caused the deaths of millions of peoples in the great war as a "goodie" when they are clearly seeking another unprecedented naval build up. What happened last time that happened? Wait, its coming to me, oh yes a world war with the millions of deaths that ensued.



NB. all in-player despite the strange syntax.

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Penalise Argentina and continue to paint them as "baddies" whilst treat Germany which caused the deaths of millions of peoples in the great war as a "goodie" when they are clearly seeking another unprecedented naval build up. What happened last time that happened? Wait, its coming to me, oh yes a world war with the millions of deaths that ensued.

Germany resents being brought into this Italian-Atlantean pissing match, we have attempted to be good international citizens since the events of the Great War and now we are being maligned for no reason. We especially resent the implication that our building 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, and 2 submarines in a year is somehow unprecedented in the history of man, which is of course hyperbolic nonsense.

FAR vs AANM - have at it, boys.
*sips umbrella drink, kicks back to enjoy the show*
^_^

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The Pirates of the South China Sea are an engima. They appeared in force circa 1920, having some serious naval firepower - an armoured cruiser was sighted several times (and finally sunk by a Filipino predread), and there have also been reports of battleships (don't remember for sure offhand but think one was sunk) - there were two "late-model predreads" built "on speculation" in Iberia that vanished, first physically and then from the paperwork...

The Filipinos later blamed Chinese warlords for the whole mess, and briefly had an agreement with the Chinese Central Government to "seek, locate, destroy" said pirate-warlords, but the first time the semidreadnought San Pablo engaged a "pirate" shore battery - which engaged it first - there was an uproar over "Filipino imperialism" that brought the operation to a screeching halt.

The point seems to have been made, though, as the Pirates of the South China Sea haven't been heard from since...

...at least, not yet.

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The Argentinean ships fired first on the freighter
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A legitimate attempt at boarding. The freighter didn't stop so warning shots were fired, and probably continued.

No. No way. By international law two Argentinian torpedo boats have no right to board a Chilean freighter in Chilean Territorial Waters. Such an action is an act of piracy or war, and the Chilean Navy had every right to fire on the torpedo boats.