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Armada destroyers:

Ivañez, Iberia D laid down 1903

Displacement:
499 t light; 521 t standard; 574 t normal; 614 t full load
Loading submergence 88 tons/feet

Dimensions:
213.25 ft x 22.97 ft x 8.20 ft (normal load)
65.00 m x 7.00 m x 2.50 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
Weight of broadside 122 lbs / 55 kg
2 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 13,947 ihp / 10,404 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 2,000nm at 12.00 kts
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
58 - 76

Cost:
£0.079 million / $0.317 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 15 tons, 2.7 %
Machinery: 350 tons, 61.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 134 tons, 23.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 74 tons, 13.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 0.6

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is extremely poor
Room for accommodation & workspaces is cramped
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.07
Shellfire needed to sink: 82 lbs / 37 Kg = 2.7 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical

hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.1
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 51 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.33
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.51

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.500
Sharpness coefficient: 0.34
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 7.84
'Natural speed' for length: 14.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 74 %
Trim: 100
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 216.7 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 69.1 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 15 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.51
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs / square foot or 120 Kg / square

metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.14
(for 8.86 ft / 2.70 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 0.31 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.55



Alvarez, Iberia D laid down 1906

Displacement:
601 t light; 625 t standard; 710 t normal; 775 t full load
Loading submergence 100 tons/feet

Dimensions:
229.66 ft x 23.95 ft x 8.86 ft (normal load)
70.00 m x 7.30 m x 2.70 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
6 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 122 lbs / 56 kg
4 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 20,670 shp / 15,420 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 2,500nm at 12.00 kts
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
68 - 89

Cost:
£0.092 million / $0.366 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 15 tons, 2.2 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.5 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 3 tons, 0.5 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 412 tons, 58.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 170 tons, 23.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 109 tons, 15.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 0.6

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is extremely poor
Room for accommodation & workspaces is cramped
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.01
Shellfire needed to sink: 118 lbs / 54 Kg = 3.9 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical

hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.1
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 65 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.41
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.68

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.510
Sharpness coefficient: 0.34
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 7.87
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 75 %
Trim: 96
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 203.7 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 67.0 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 25 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.47
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs / square foot or 124 Kg / square

metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.44
(for 11.48 ft / 3.50 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 2.56 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.52

unreliable steam turbines



Enter Name, Iberia D laid down 1908

Displacement:
850 t light; 883 t standard; 1,031 t normal; 1,145 t full load
Loading submergence 146 tons/feet

Dimensions:
285.43 ft x 28.54 ft x 8.86 ft (normal load)
87.00 m x 8.70 m x 2.70 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
4 - 2.24" / 57 mm guns
4 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 145 lbs / 66 kg
4 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19,454 shp / 14,513 Kw = 29.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
90 - 118

Cost:
£0.123 million / $0.491 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 18 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.3 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 4 tons, 0.3 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 556 tons, 53.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 273 tons, 26.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 181 tons, 17.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 1.3

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.35
Shellfire needed to sink: 276 lbs / 125 Kg = 9.0 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical

hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.2
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 70 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.21
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.98

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.500
Sharpness coefficient: 0.33
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.63
'Natural speed' for length: 16.89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim: 72
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 187.4 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 98.1 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 49 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.54
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs / square foot or 145 Kg / square

metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.16
(for 12.47 ft / 3.80 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 2.85 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.58




Enter ship name, Iberia D laid down 1910

Displacement:
898 t light; 931 t standard; 1,069 t normal; 1,176 t full load
Loading submergence 153 tons/feet

Dimensions:
295.28 ft x 29.20 ft x 8.86 ft (normal load)
90.00 m x 8.90 m x 2.70 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
4 - 2.24" / 57 mm guns
4 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 145 lbs / 66 kg
4 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25,821 shp / 19,263 Kw = 31.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
93 - 121

Cost:
£0.129 million / $0.516 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 18 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.3 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 4 tons, 0.3 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 588 tons, 55.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 288 tons, 26.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 172 tons, 16.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 1.1

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.21
Shellfire needed to sink: 256 lbs / 116 Kg = 8.4 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical

hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.2
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 71 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.22
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.83

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.490
Sharpness coefficient: 0.33
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.82
'Natural speed' for length: 17.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
Trim: 86
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 190.3 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 101.2 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 47 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.53
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs / square foot or 147 Kg / square

metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.11
(for 12.47 ft / 3.80 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 2.78 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.57






Enter ship name, Iberia D laid down 1912

Displacement:
998 t light; 1,033 t standard; 1,162 t normal; 1,261 t full load
Loading submergence 160 tons/feet

Dimensions:
305.12 ft x 30.02 ft x 9.25 ft (normal load)
93.00 m x 9.15 m x 2.82 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
4 - 2.24" / 57 mm guns
4 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 145 lbs / 66 kg
4 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 30,399 shp / 22,678 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
99 - 129

Cost:
£0.142 million / $0.569 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 18 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.3 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 4 tons, 0.3 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 659 tons, 56.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 317 tons, 27.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 165 tons, 14.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 1.2

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.23
Shellfire needed to sink: 268 lbs / 122 Kg = 8.8 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical

hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.2
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 70 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.20
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.84

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.480
Sharpness coefficient: 0.32
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.87
'Natural speed' for length: 17.47 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
Trim: 83
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 194.7 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 107.0 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 45 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.52
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs / square foot or 152 Kg / square

metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.16
(for 13.12 ft / 4.00 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 3.28 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.56




Enter ship name, Iberia D laid down 1914

Displacement:
1,008 t light; 1,043 t standard; 1,162 t normal; 1,253 t full load
Loading submergence 160 tons/feet

Dimensions:
305.12 ft x 30.02 ft x 9.25 ft (normal load)
93.00 m x 9.15 m x 2.82 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
4 - 2.24" / 57 mm guns
4 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 145 lbs / 66 kg
4 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 34,772 shp / 25,940 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
99 - 129

Cost:
£0.185 million / $0.740 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 18 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.3 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 4 tons, 0.3 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 677 tons, 58.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 309 tons, 26.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 154 tons, 13.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 1.1

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.19
Shellfire needed to sink: 239 lbs / 109 Kg = 7.8 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical

hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.2
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 70 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.22
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.81

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.480
Sharpness coefficient: 0.32
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.87
'Natural speed' for length: 17.47 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 72 %
Trim: 87
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 199.7 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 109.6 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 41 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.48
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs / square foot or 147 Kg / square

metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.17
(for 13.45 ft / 4.10 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 3.61 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.53




Enter ship name, Iberia D laid down 1916

Displacement:
1,271 t light; 1,308 t standard; 1,434 t normal; 1,529 t full load
Loading submergence 197 tons/feet

Dimensions:
344.49 ft x 32.81 ft x 9.25 ft (normal load)
105.00 m x 10.00 m x 2.82 m

Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
2 - 2.24" / 57 mm guns
4 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 103 lbs / 47 kg
4 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 36,747 shp / 27,413 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
116 - 151

Cost:
£0.281 million / $1.122 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 13 tons, 0.9 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.2 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 3 tons, 0.2 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 830 tons, 57.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 375 tons, 26.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 163 tons, 11.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 3.5 %

Metacentric height 1.3

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.21
Shellfire needed to sink: 316 lbs / 143 Kg = 10.3 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical

hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.2
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 70 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.11
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.83

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.480
Sharpness coefficient: 0.32
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 9.34
'Natural speed' for length: 18.56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim: 84
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 197.3 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 122.5 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 50 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.51
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs / square foot or 152 Kg / square

metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 0.93
(for 13.45 ft / 4.10 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 3.18 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.54

Armed with waterbombs


Enter ship name, Iberia D laid down 1918

Displacement:
1,278 t light; 1,316 t standard; 1,434 t normal; 1,523 t full load
Loading submergence 197 tons/feet

Dimensions:
344.49 ft x 32.81 ft x 9.25 ft (normal load)
105.00 m x 10.00 m x 2.82 m

Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
2 - 2.24" / 57 mm guns
4 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 103 lbs / 47 kg
4 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 36,747 shp / 27,413 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
116 - 151

Cost:
£0.339 million / $1.357 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 13 tons, 0.9 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.2 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 3 tons, 0.2 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 815 tons, 56.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 368 tons, 25.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 156 tons, 10.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 5.6 %

Metacentric height 1.3

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.17
Shellfire needed to sink: 308 lbs / 140 Kg = 10.1 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical

hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.2
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 69 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.11
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.82

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.480
Sharpness coefficient: 0.32
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 9.34
'Natural speed' for length: 18.56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim: 84
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 196.2 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 122.5 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 51 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.50
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs / square foot or 149 Kg / square

metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 0.91
(for 13.45 ft / 4.10 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 3.18 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.53

Armed with waterbombs and hedgehog

Wouldn´t it be better to post histories like this on the infrastructure board as part of the Iberia-thread?

well, I was hoping for some input into my designs before I do that. Also that thread gets summaries, not the full designs, as well as launch dates etc. haven't done that yet.

cheers

Bernhard

3x 100mm in 1918 seems somewhat weak when comparing it to german or british designs. Don´t you have a caliber at hand that is somewhat larger but still fits on a DD?

ok, here she is again, somewhat better armed

I think the weak armament stems from the time when she still had 20" gun shieds ;-)

and my 130 mm only just got ready in 1921. So unless I want to pull an early Narvik class ...

cheers

Bernhard

Enter ship name, Iberia D laid down 1918

Displacement:
1,275 t light; 1,316 t standard; 1,434 t normal; 1,523 t full load
Loading submergence 197 tons/feet

Dimensions:
344.49 ft x 32.81 ft x 9.25 ft (normal load)
105.00 m x 10.00 m x 2.82 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns
4 - 2.24" / 57 mm guns
4 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 145 lbs / 66 kg
6 - 18.9" / 480 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 36,747 shp / 27,413 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
116 - 151

Cost:
£0.345 million / $1.382 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 18 tons, 1.3 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.3 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 4 tons, 0.3 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 806 tons, 56.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 367 tons, 25.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 159 tons, 11.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 5.6 %

Metacentric height 1.2

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.13
Shellfire needed to sink: 293 lbs / 133 Kg = 9.6 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.2
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 71 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.16
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.82

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.480
Sharpness coefficient: 0.32
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 9.34
'Natural speed' for length: 18.56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim: 87
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 197.0 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 107.4 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 50 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.49
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs / square foot or 149 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 0.89
(for 13.45 ft / 4.10 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 3.18 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.52

Armed with waterbombs and hedgehog

Quoted

Originally posted by HoOmAn
Wouldn´t it be better to post histories like this on the infrastructure board as part of the Iberia-thread?

I would say that design-histories, showing the longer lines of development of a shiptype within a navy, have no place on the infrastructure-board, and indeed have their home on the ship design board.

Quite speedy, for their times, and pretty good ranges too. But the poor, soaked crews forward...

Relative quality as seaboat: 0.51
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.68
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.98
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.83
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.84
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.81
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.83
Relative quality as seaboat: 0.82

This will also impact a ship's ability to keep up with the fleet in heavy weather. That might not be a problem in the western Med, but get out to the Atlantic or the Carribbean and these ships might have problems.

Isn´t this quite normal for DDs? Most of them had problems in realy heavy weather, IIRC, one reason being that their are simply that much smaller than cruisers or capital units....

Well, maybe that's just a particular priority of mine:

French Brandelbas class destroyers, laid down 1907
Length, 55.0 m x Beam, 6.0 m x Depth, 3.2 m
426 tonnes normal displacement (388 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.09

French Spahi class destroyers, laid down 1909
Length, 70.0 m x Beam, 6.7 m x Depth, 3.3 m
624 tonnes normal displacement (566 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.22

French Bouclier Class Destroyer, laid down 1910
Length, 80.0 m x Beam, 7.5 m x Depth, 4.0 m
968 tonnes normal displacement (861 tonnes
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.22

French Bisson class destroyers, laid down 1910
Length, 70.0 m x Beam, 7.5 m x Depth, 3.8 m
805 tonnes normal displacement (723 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.06


French Aventurieur class destroyers, laid down 1911
Length, 80.0 m x Beam, 8.0 m x Depth, 4.0 m
1032 tonnes normal displacement (968 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.10


French Arabe Class Destroyer, laid down 1917
Length, 90.0 m x Beam, 8.5 m x Depth, 4.0 m
1234 tonnes normal displacement (1140 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.28

French Audaciaux class destroyer, laid down 1921
Length, 100.0 m x Beam, 8.8 m x Depth, 3.6 m
1366 tonnes normal displacement (1231 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.20

Russian Bucharskiy Class Destroyer, laid down 1904
Length, 72.5 m x Beam, 8.2 m x Depth, 2.3 m
620 tonnes normal displacement (560 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.23

Russian Sibirsky Strelok Class Destroyer, laid down 1905
Length, 72.5 m x Beam, 8.2 m x Depth, 2.3 m
758 tonnes normal displacement (632 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.20


Russian Novik class destroyers, laid down 1910
Length, 102.5 m x Beam, 9.5 m x Depth, 3.5 m
1374 tonnes normal displacement (1220 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.23


Russian Chastlyvy class destroyers, laid down 1913
Length, 98.0 m x Beam, 9.4 m x Depth, 3.2 m
1635 tonnes normal displacement (1458 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.20


Russian Izyslav class destroyers, laid down 1914
Length, 107.0 m x Beam, 9.4 m x Depth, 3.0 m
1947 tonnes normal displacement (1736 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.20


Russian Orphey class destroyers, laid down 1915
Length, 98.0 m x Beam, 9.3 m x Depth, 3.0 m
1378 tonnes normal displacement (1288 tonnes standard)
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.21

Tashkent Class, Russia Destroyer laid down 1921
Displacement:
1,446 t light; 1,496 t standard; 1,652 t normal; 1,771 t full load
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.21

While Russian destroyers in the Baltic and Black Seas don't have bad problems with stormy seas, the North Atlantic and Arctic Oceans can be a problem.

France also designs to Atlantic conditions, but sometimes has trouble fitting it all in....

well, I am with Hooman. Also let's not forget that seaworthiness is at full speed. And I don't forsee big probs in the Caribbean. Central Atlantic might be different. BTW: anybody considered what the trade winds are going to be like with Atlantis sitting slap bang in the middle of them?

cheers

Bernhard

Umm, big-time hurricanes in the late summer and fall. They kill people by the hundreds in coastal areas.

I know about them. But flatly they do not constitute fighting conditions and I have _lots_ of harbours across the Caribbean for my ships to get into.