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Wednesday, February 15th 2006, 11:04pm

Heavy Cruisers

Class A (8001 to 13000 ton) cruisers of the Armada

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Wednesday, February 15th 2006, 11:13pm

Inigo Montoya class

[size=3]Inigo Montoya Class Heavy Cruiser[/size]

These cruisers were laid down under the Cleito Treaty, and were found to have some deficiencies in service - namely an armor belt that did not fully protect the ship's vitals.

The class began 25% refits in 1942 that extended the belt a few metres, improved AA defences, and added a full electronics suite.

Inigo Montoya
Zorro
Scaramouche
Orlando
Capo Ferro
Thibault
Agrippa
De Caranza
Mercutio
Bonetti

As Refitted, 1942-44

My name is Inigo Montoya. You invaded my island. Prepare to sink, laid down 1923

Displacement:
10,623 t light; 11,133 t standard; 11,980 t normal; 12,657 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
644.33 ft / 610.24 ft x 67.59 ft x 20.01 ft (normal load)
196.39 m / 186.00 m x 20.60 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 282.57lbs / 128.17kg shells, 1923 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.41kg shells, 1923 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
16 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1923 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1923 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,895 lbs / 1,313 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 160
16 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 396.65 ft / 120.90 m 9.88 ft / 3.01 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.30" / 160 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 3.15" / 80 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 82,001 shp / 61,173 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 9,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,524 tons

Complement:
572 - 744

Cost:
£3.082 million / $12.328 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 362 tons, 3.0 %
Armour: 2,376 tons, 19.8 %
- Belts: 778 tons, 6.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 497 tons, 4.1 %
- Armour Deck: 1,048 tons, 8.8 %
- Conning Tower: 53 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,741 tons, 22.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,999 tons, 41.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,357 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 145 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,512 lbs / 6,582 Kg = 51.4 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 63 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.508
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.03 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.39 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.81 ft / 10.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m (15.42 ft / 4.70 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.42 ft / 4.70 m
- Stern: 15.42 ft / 4.70 m
- Average freeboard: 20.28 ft / 6.18 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 120.9 %
Waterplane Area: 28,791 Square feet or 2,675 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 574 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.31
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

As Built

Displacement:
10,619 t light; 11,130 t standard; 11,976 t normal; 12,653 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
644.33 ft / 610.24 ft x 67.59 ft x 20.01 ft (normal load)
196.39 m / 186.00 m x 20.60 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 282.57lbs / 128.17kg shells, 1923 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1923 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
18 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (6x3 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1923 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
12 - 0.53" / 13.5 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1923 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,899 lbs / 1,315 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 160
16 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 381.56 ft / 116.30 m 9.88 ft / 3.01 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.30" / 160 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 3.15" / 80 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 81,976 shp / 61,154 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 9,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,524 tons

Complement:
572 - 744

Cost:
£3.083 million / $12.331 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 362 tons, 3.0 %
Armour: 2,355 tons, 19.7 %
- Belts: 753 tons, 6.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 501 tons, 4.2 %
- Armour Deck: 1,048 tons, 8.8 %
- Conning Tower: 53 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,740 tons, 22.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,036 tons, 42.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,357 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 125 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,604 lbs / 6,624 Kg = 51.7 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 63 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.508
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.03 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.39 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.81 ft / 10.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m (15.42 ft / 4.70 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.42 ft / 4.70 m
- Stern: 15.42 ft / 4.70 m
- Average freeboard: 20.28 ft / 6.18 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 120.9 %
Waterplane Area: 28,786 Square feet or 2,674 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 578 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.32
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

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Tuesday, October 1st 2013, 7:38pm

[size=3]El Jefe Class Heavy Cruiser[/size]

The El Jefe class heavy cruisers are based more on the Inigo Montoya class heavy cruisers than the Santa Maria class armored cruisers they will actually replace in service.

Although Iberia contemplated something based on the Peruvian Almirante Grau, a few considerations ruled against it:

-Easier logistics from using the same 210mm gun as in the Montoyas

-The quantity of fire is probably better suited to combat against swarms of unarmored, fastish Mexican destroyers than lesser numbers of heavier guns.

-Theoretically, an easier swap-out of triple 210mm for mostly-hypothetical twin automatic 210mm weapons at some future point (Iberia is probably contemplating research in this direction in 1942).

-Expense of a Grau-type ship with an acceptable level of protection.

The class gives up some deck armor, some secondary armament, a half-knot of speed and lesser shell weight to the American Los Angeles class, all of which are considered acceptable. It does have a taller belt, and the light AA is considered to be better.

El Jefe, laid down 1942
El Toro, laid down 1942
El Tigre, laid down 1943
El Oso, laid down 1943

(Tenative design - needs tweaking)

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1942

Displacement:
16,737 t light; 17,884 t standard; 19,887 t normal; 21,489 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
734.98 ft / 718.50 ft x 78.74 ft x 24.61 ft (normal load)
224.02 m / 219.00 m x 24.00 m x 7.50 m

Armament:
12 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x3 guns), 282.57lbs / 128.17kg shells, 1942 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (6x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.41kg shells, 1942 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all aft
16 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1942 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1942 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 4,293 lbs / 1,947 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300
8 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 467.03 ft / 142.35 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.84" / 250 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 7.87" / 200 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 105,638 shp / 78,806 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,605 tons

Complement:
836 - 1,088

Cost:
£9.055 million / $36.220 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 537 tons, 2.7 %
Armour: 5,315 tons, 26.7 %
- Belts: 2,025 tons, 10.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,149 tons, 5.8 %
- Armour Deck: 2,141 tons, 10.8 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,760 tons, 13.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,826 tons, 39.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,150 tons, 15.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
32,326 lbs / 14,663 Kg = 114.4 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 3.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 16.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.19

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.13 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.23 ft / 8.30 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Stern: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Average freeboard: 21.80 ft / 6.64 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 70.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 190.5 %
Waterplane Area: 39,199 Square feet or 3,642 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 129 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 136 lbs/sq ft or 664 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.21
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Saturday, May 14th 2016, 4:54pm

Leon Class Heavy Cruiser

The Leon class heavy cruisers are, for the most part, incremental improvements on the preceding Jefe class. The primary and obvious difference is that the main armament is not 4x3 210mm, but 4x2 210mm automatic turrets.

Leon, laid down 1946
Puma, laid down 1946

Leon, Iberian heavy cruiser, laid down 1946

Displacement:
16,572 t light; 17,532 t standard; 19,933 t normal; 21,853 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
736.62 ft / 720.14 ft x 78.74 ft x 24.61 ft (normal load)
224.52 m / 219.50 m x 24.00 m x 7.50 m

Armament:
8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 282.57lbs / 128.17kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (6x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.41kg shells, 1946 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all aft
16 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1946 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1946 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 3,163 lbs / 1,435 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 467.03 ft / 142.35 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.84" / 250 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 7.87" / 200 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 107,239 shp / 80,000 Kw = 32.12 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,322 tons

Complement:
838 - 1,090

Cost:
£9.463 million / $37.853 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 452 tons, 2.3 %
Armour: 5,104 tons, 25.6 %
- Belts: 2,025 tons, 10.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 932 tons, 4.7 %
- Armour Deck: 2,146 tons, 10.8 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,678 tons, 13.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,369 tons, 37.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,361 tons, 16.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 969 tons, 4.9 %
-515 t: 8 x automatic 210mm guns at an additional 64.375 t each
-250 t: Fire control, electronics, comms
-150 t: Command facilities
-54 t: Weight reserve

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
33,295 lbs / 15,103 Kg = 117.8 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 3.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 16.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.38
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.15 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.23 ft / 8.30 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Stern: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Average freeboard: 21.80 ft / 6.64 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 68.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 190.4 %
Waterplane Area: 39,289 Square feet or 3,650 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 132 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 624 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.17
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily