WesWorld

So, have you been suitably fortified?

I've included a few classes of small coastal craft in my OOB; if anybody objects to the inclusion of the following, please let me know.

M29, M19 and M15 Class Monitors
Insect Class Gunboats
Fly Class Gunboats

And, with that business settled, on to the report:

[SIZE=5]THE BRITISH EMPIRE and DOMINION OF CANADA: Q4/1929 REPORT[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4] A. Industrial Output [/SIZE]

54 Factories:
Fixed IP: 45
Flexible IP: 0
Ship Tonnage: 9
Bonus IP: 4.5

[SIZE=4] B. Transfers/Acquisitions [/SIZE]

None

[SIZE=4] C. Unit Relocations [/SIZE]

18th Light Cruiser Squadron formed on 6 November 1929, consisting of HMS Hercules, HMS Hannibal and HMS Hunter.
HMS Zambezi attached to 12th Destroyer Flotilla as of 8 November.
HMS Zebra completed and working up as of 12 November 1929.

[SIZE=4] D. Navy Program [/SIZE]

Resources Allocated: 9,000 tons
Previous Surplus: 2,774 tons
Unused Scrap: 0t
Construction Requirements (See Appendix A): 9,693 tons
Total surplus: 2,081 tons
Scrap Available: 0t

Order of Battle at End:

In Service + Working Up + Building

Battleships and Battlecruisers: 17 + 0 + 0

Aircraft Carriers: 4 + 0 + 0

Class A Cruisers: 8 + 0 + 0
Class B Cruisers: 79 + 0 + 5

Class A Destroyers: 17 + 2 + 9
Class B Destroyers: 131 + 0 + 0

Class A Submarines: 37 + 0 + 0
Class A Submarines: 36 + 0 + 0

Coastal Defence Ships: 5 + 0 + 0

Monitors: 15 + 0 + 0
Gunboats: 28 + 0 + 0
Escorts: 20 + 0 + 0
Torpedo Boats: 15 + 0 + 0

[SIZE=4] E. Infrastructure Program [/SIZE]

Resources Allocated: 9 IP
Previous Surplus: 0 IP
Resources Used: 9 IP
Carry-over: 0 IP

Factory 65 2 points this quarter for 10 points total (100% Complete)

Factory 66 5.5 points quarter for 10 points total (100% Complete)

Factory 67 1.5 points this quarter for 2.5 points total (25% Complete)

[SIZE=5]APPENDIX A: DETAILED SHIPBUILDING REPORT[/SIZE]

Specifying only slips and docks currently in use. All not mentioned are assumed to be empty.

[SIZE=4]Home Stations: [/SIZE]

Beardmore:

S-3b:
HMS Hermione – H Class light cruiser
Laid Down: 1 April 1929
Launched: 16 October 1929
1379 tons this quarter for 4137 tons total
Completion due 9 August 1930

S-2a:
HMS Zephyr – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 April 1929
Launched: 5 August 1929
441 tons this quarter for 1323 tons total
Completion due 10 February 1930

HMS Zodiac – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 October 1929
Launched: 4 February 1929
441 tons this quarter for 441 tons total
Completion due 12 August 1930

S-1a:
HMS Zorro – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 October 1929
Launched: 4 February 1929
441 tons this quarter for 882 tons total
Completion due 12 August 1930

S-1b:
HMS Zebra – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 January 1929
Launched: 7 May 1929
208 tons this quarter for 1531 tons total
Completed 12 November 1929

HMS Zeus – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 October 1929
Launched: 4 February 1930
441 tons this quarter for 441 tons total
Completion due 12 August 1930

Armstrong:

S-3a:
HMS Hero – H Class light cruiser
Laid Down: 1 April 1929
Launched: 16 October 1929
1379 tons this quarter for 4137 tons total
Completion due 9 August 1930

S-2a:
HMS Zest – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 July 1929
Launched: 4 November 1929
441 tons this quarter for 1323 tons total
Completion due 12 May 1930

HMS Zulu – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 October 1929
Launched: 4 February 1929
882 tons this quarter for 441 tons total
Completion due 12 August 1930

S-1a:
HMS Zenith – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 April 1929
Launched: 5 August 1929
441 tons this quarter for 1323 tons total
Completion due 10 February 1930

HMS Zelda – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 October 1929
Launched: 4 February 1930
441 tons this quarter for 441 tons total
Completion due 12 August 1930

S-1b:
HMS Zoë – Z Class destroyer
Laid Down: 1 October 1929
Launched: 4 February 1930
441 tons this quarter for 441 tons total
Completion due 12 August 1930

Chatham:

S-4a:
HMS Hotspur – H Class light cruiser
Laid Down: 1 April 1929
Launched: 16 October 1929
1379 tons this quarter for 4137 tons total
Completion due 9 August 1930

S-4b:
HMS Implacable – I Class light cruiser
Laid Down: 1 October 1929
Launched: 17 April 1930
1379 tons this quarter for 1379 tons total
Completion due 8 February 1931

Too...many...ships...and...factories.......

*klunk*

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Originally posted by Swamphen
Too...many...ships...and...factories.......

*klunk*

That ROYAL NAVY for You

is intimidating as hell.... That's another 2,000 tons/quarter next year.

And no problem adding in the monitors and gunboats. I've got some too:


http://admkuznetsov.tripod.com/id113.html

I'm begining to get the feeling we need to exclude Canadian resources from UK access completely. We have a situation here that some of us were orriginally opposed to, a powerhouse running away from the pack.

Sorry I should have raised my voice about this earlier but given the fact that the U.S. has been downsized infrastructure wise I seem to have missed the point where we didn't decide to do the same with the UK.

I'm a bit less concerned, considering he's got a huge empire to cover, and as has been mentioned before, the RN's dominance of the WesWorld is still less than the RN's historical position.

I've not observed a propensity to abuse his position, and if he does, we'll just all gang up on 'im... ;-)

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We have a situation here that some of us were orriginally opposed to, a powerhouse running away from the pack.

Without changing economy rules we can't do anything about it. KISS is more or less working for the moment.

It'd be a good idea to have lots and lots of gunboats/sloops/frigates. Maybe overkill on the light cruisers.

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Originally posted by Red Admiral

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We have a situation here that some of us were orriginally opposed to, a powerhouse running away from the pack.

Without changing economy rules we can't do anything about it. KISS is more or less working for the moment.

...we could remove Canada from the mix...IIRC concern about this issue was already expressed. I was under the assumtion that Canada was a separate entity, particularily now that someone has expressed interest in playing them.

I am considering Canada as a separate entity from 1930, unless ShinRa is taking over from that date. If this is not the case, I will be apportioning construction et al to Canada on a per factory basis, using the ratios as at the start of 1929.

Potentially, this could put Canada in a better position than would otherwise be expected, but that's the main objection I can see to my proposal.

I think with or without Shinra at the helm we could simply cut off Canada in 1930 and treat it as an entirely separate NPC. Once someone took over we could discuss what the acumulated IP's/materials went towards if Shinra is unable to take over in 1930.

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Originally posted by AdmKuznetsov

I've not observed a propensity to abuse his position, and if he does, we'll just all gang up on 'im... ;-)

Well thats not a happy thout.

And being in Your position I dont think That You have gang up on any body.You have 58 Factories 26 in france and 32 in russia.Hrolf and I rather go with You that ageint You.Thats 26 and 11 factories so you have a total of 95 factory... ^_^
Did I for got some body???

I'm suprised Canada wasn't seperated off at the same time Australia was. But I think I'll sit back and be quiet while everyone sorts out what's going on. :x

Well we didn't have a player for Canada at the time.

Note that in the report the "new factories" still have their "pre-Australia" numbers.

Agree that "10 for Canada as of Q1/30" sounds reasonable.

As for the UK being overpowered...they are still the naval superpower in WW, since the USN didn't have the WW1 springboard here.

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Originally posted by Swamphen
Well we didn't have a player for Canada at the time.

IC-wise, Australia and Canada seem fairly similar in their situations, I just would've thought that if Australia was going to get 'independance', similar thoughts would've been made towards Canada. But I said I'd be quiet!

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Originally posted by Swamphen
As for the UK being overpowered...they are still the naval superpower in WW, since the USN didn't have the WW1 springboard here.

USN doesn't seem like something to be discounted here, either.