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Poland had conducted a Air-Naval exersize.
Its porpose wose to sind out the bast way to use its air force in defence
of the coust.
Moust atenion wose given to to air strikes on naval wassels.

Navy used its 2 old BB and 2 DD to simulate an enemy assalt force
Polish Air force wose to provide cover for the ships.
Polish Fleet air arm wos to attack the ships with Torpedo and Dive bombers.

Polish torpedo planes attacked the "enemy" Three times.
First attack wave had 24 Torpedo planes with 24 fighter escort.
The resoults wose sinking 1 DD and damamaging 1 BB with the lost of
7 bombers to figher screen and 2 to AA dafence.

Second wave of 24 torpedo planes and 12 figher escorts
The resolts Damaging 1 BB with the lost of 11 bombers to fighter screen.

Third wave of 24 torpedo planes with out the figher escort
The resolt wose that the figher screen brake up the attack not allowing any bombers to strike the ships.

the second day the dive bombers wore used to try to strike the ships

first wave of 24 dive bombers and 24 figher escort
The resolt wose sinking one DD and damaging all the other ships.
losing 3 dive bomders to AA and 4 to the figher screen

second wave of 24 dive bombers and 12 fighers
The resolt sinking 1 DD and damading Both BB's losing 5 bombers to fighers and 2 to AA

Third Wave of 24 dive bombers with out the escort
the resolt damaging both BB and one DD.
losing 9 bombers to fighers 5 to AA

The Wargame wose conducter in a clasifide maner no out side obsevers were presend.
The whole ecersize it the last part of the reserch that started in 1927 to find
a best way to use the new weapons that are the air force againts the Navy.



The findings are some what contredictory.
Firts it shows that the torpedo is the best way to sink a ship.
Making it prudent to invests in Torpedo aircrafts.
It also shows that an attack on ships with air cover is wery difficolt
for the torpedo planes to conducte succesfully.
The dive bomber hase the bast chance to brake trou the air cover but,
bombs do not have the same destrucive power that a torpedo hase.
More strikes are nesesery to sink the weasal.
The dive bomber hase also an other advantade with it being more multiporpose platform.
The further analises are on the way as of now it is not clear with way to take the fleet air arm.


The reacent events of the fillipono civil war have also be taken to the acount.

A day of attacks from both types of aircraft might also have been useful.

Were any lessons learned by the defenders about dealing with air attacks?

Poland has an extremely large naval airforce for an extremely small navy.

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Originally posted by The Rock Doctor
Were any lessons learned by the defenders about dealing with air attacks?

Not realy...
Mayby how not to shot at its fighter screen.
So practising AA figher coordination

Im pretty ingnorant about AA.
I know what a bullet dose to an aircraft and that you aim at the spot that the aircraft will be not the spot that it is.

But firing flak from a ship or from the ground is preaty moch the same thing.acept the roll of the ship bot that is not new for naval gunner

As for this praticular excersize Flak gunners will not shoot at anything.And the figher pilots do the same thing as flying over water or ground is preaty moch the same.

Whell the coordinated assault from bouth the torpedo and dive bombers is all so parcticed but in think that its not posible no radio on my planes. Now im traing to find out wich is better for the job dive bomber or torpedo plane.

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Originally posted by Red Admiral
Poland has an extremely large naval airforce for an extremely small navy.

Well Im working on the navy part
All in all the were the were 68 Aircrafts inwoleved
48 from fleet air arm and 24 from Airforce
that 24 PWS 15 fighters 24 Lublin R-XIIID from the fleet air arm and 20 PWS 10 fighters from the Army.
The navy fighers had to play the role of Dive bombers as i dont have any ,and torpedo plane we in fact recon Lublins as of now i dont have the Torpedo wariant of that aircraft yet.
Its corenty in the test fase.

Any comment are welcome.

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Any comment are welcome.

The FAA had a pool of less than 300 planes for 8-10 aircraft carriers. About 36 per carrier. Poland has no carriers but 48 planes.

Would a naval air force even exist? Personally I can't see the point when only operating in the Baltic. You can fly just about anywhere from Polish soil, and its hard to sink a continental landmass. I'd see something more like a "Coastal Strike Command" or something along those lines. Simply 2-3 squadrons from the airforce specifically for overwater operations. Facing facts, a land war is far more likely for Poland.

Fleet air arm is how the i chose to tranlate the "Dywizja Lotnictwa Morskiego" the organization wich job wos to protect the coust area its opereted and wose to defend up too 100km inland.
Its in defence of the geografic region of Pomorze.

In 1939 polish FAA bought the italian Cant Z-506B and paned to buy the fiat G50.while the airforce bougth the Hawker Huricane.
Historicly poland had always a separet army and navys air forces.Today in 2006 poland has:
Lotictwo wojkowe marynarki wojennej(Air force of the navy)
Obrone powieczna Kraju(Air defence force)
Wojska lotnicze (Army Airforce)
Each sepret from the other. The last too hase merge And now its Wojska lotnicze i obrony powiecznej kraju(Army airforce & Airdefence force).

coplicated and redundent.


Ow we also have Wojska obrony satelitarno kosmicznej(Space and orbital Defence forces)
To shoot down(or up)enemy ICBM and spy satelites.
Thankfull only on paper.

I see not every nation on Earth follows strict American or British patterns for doing things. Consider that in China everything military belongs to the Army in one way or another (the People's Army's Navy, or some such thing), so there is no reason for Poland to not have a naval air arm even though they have never had an aircraft carrier.

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Consider that in China everything military belongs to the Army in one way or another (the People's Army's Navy, or some such thing)

People's Liberation Army Navy.

Last time I saw them in action it didn't look like they were liberating anyone.


As for Poland. Does Polish Aeral components practice verses possible engagements with any or all of the surrounding powers? Or is that too much a more recent training innovation?

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Originally posted by Ithekro
As for Poland. Does Polish Aeral components practice verses possible engagements with any or all of the surrounding powers? Or is that too much a more recent training innovation?

No.
If You asking dose i training my men how to fight ,Nordmark for ecseple, the anser is no.
Im traing them so they are as competent in they trade as posible.
Besicly traying to make them good pilots.