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January Edition.

O Happy Day!!

My fellow students, today brings to us great and glorious tidings.

The Admiralty have laid down not just one but TWO "TYR" class battleships!!

These ships, though not as large as some battleships of other navies, should be more than capable of holding their own in combat.
With the aid of our Iberian, Italian and Dutch allies, the armour to be used, has been tested and found to be as good as anything else currently in service.

Also, more of the new "Hoenir" class CL's are to be built and 2 new classes of DD's are to be started this year.

All this good news is tinged with a hint of sorrow as the Armoured Cruisers "Thor" and "Odin are to be scrapped.

The old Gods are dead, long live the new Gods!

Ragnarok has come...
I think it would have been more suitable to have called the CL class "Fenris".

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I think it would have been more suitable to have called the CL class "Fenris"

Surely KDM Hans Christian Andersen?

What form of Tyr are you using?

Tyr (Build), Denmark BBL laid down 1927

Displacement:
24,981 t light; 26,486 t standard; 28,494 t normal; 30,101 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
725.59 ft / 700.00 ft x 92.00 ft x 29.00 ft (normal load)
221.16 m / 213.36 m x 28.04 m x 8.84 m

Armament:
6 - 14.96" / 380 mm guns (2x3 guns), 1,674.25lbs / 759.43kg shells, 1927 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (2x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1926 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1926 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships
24 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (12x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (10 mounts), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 10,991 lbs / 4,986 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 446.85 ft / 136.20 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
0.98" / 25 mm 446.85 ft / 136.20 m 27.07 ft / 8.25 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 13.8" / 350 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.57" / 40 mm
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.57" / 40 mm
4th: 0.59" / 15 mm - -
5th: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 4.72" / 120 mm, Conning tower: 13.78" / 350 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric motors, 4 shafts, 107,060 shp / 79,867 Kw = 29.00 kts
Range 13,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,615 tons

Complement:
1,096 - 1,425

Cost:
£9.097 million / $36.386 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,374 tons, 4.8 %
Armour: 9,332 tons, 32.8 %
- Belts: 3,035 tons, 10.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 440 tons, 1.5 %
- Armament: 1,710 tons, 6.0 %
- Armour Deck: 3,870 tons, 13.6 %
- Conning Tower: 277 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 3,379 tons, 11.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,746 tons, 37.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,513 tons, 12.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
33,393 lbs / 15,147 Kg = 19.9 x 15.0 " / 380 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.04
Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 17.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.534
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.61 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.46 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.25 ft / 5.56 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.25 ft / 5.26 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.25 ft / 4.95 m
- Stern: 16.25 ft / 4.95 m
- Average freeboard: 17.98 ft / 5.48 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 132.4 %
Waterplane Area: 44,277 Square feet or 4,113 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 174 lbs/sq ft or 850 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.19
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Aircraft = 3 (type to be decided)



And what is wrong with the name "Hoenir"?

"Fenris" is being saved for something REALLY Nasty!

Thats an incredible ammount of AA for a 1927 design.

I don't know if I said it before, but I see the 57mm as anti PT Boat also, and I have had a bad experience with aircraft, so the designers decided that after that incident, and our own experiments with PT boats, that it might be a good idea to up-gun on the light end of the scale.

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"Fenris" is being saved for something REALLY Nasty!

"Ancient Evil from the Dawn of Time!!" ;-)

Ah, the powerful submersible battle-carrier Fenris.

I'd like to see KDM The Little Mermaid, meself.

Commodore: when Roger gets his battle system down pat, you and I oughta have a battle of mini-battleships, Tyr versus Akbar.

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Originally posted by The Rock Doctor
Commodore: when Roger gets his battle system down pat, you and I oughta have a battle of mini-battleships, Tyr versus Akbar.

Sounds like a good idea, OUTSIDE the sim, of course!!
I've lost enough ships to the Indian Navy!!

But of course. We little guys have to conserve our precious warships.

We could storyline it, though, as the outcome of some potential client's analysis of competing designs. "Battleship Akbar and Tyr both performed very well, battering each other to a pulp, at which point the Nabob determined that in fact he could not afford a battleship and instead ordered a pair of large destroyers, one from each nation."

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Originally posted by The Rock Doctor
But of course. We little guys have to conserve our precious warships.

We could storyline it, though, as the outcome of some potential client's analysis of competing designs. "Battleship Akbar and Tyr both performed very well, battering each other to a pulp, at which point the Nabob determined that in fact he could not afford a battleship and instead ordered a pair of large destroyers, one from each nation."

I hope the Nabob won't mind if I pack his destroyer with enough TNT to launch it and him into space!!