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A lot of new ships to replace older ships and augment the RMI. Focusing on replacing older units with more modern more capable units.

- Aquila Class Aircraft Carrier

- Zara Class 1st Class Cruiser

- 6 Esploratori leggeri

- 4 Dardo Class Destroyers

- 16 Spica Class Torpedo boats

- Same basic design as Francesco Morosini in her reconstructed guise, albeit reduced in size.

- Deletion of 65mm AA guns on grounds of space.

- 130mm/45 guns with 28kg shells. Previous shell weight being 32kg. Lighter shell hopes to reduce strain in loading continuously for long periods.

- Same armour fit a placement as Francesco Morosini.




RM Europa, Italian Portaerei laid down 1927

Displacement:
22,092 t light; 22,813 t standard; 26,826 t normal; 30,036 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
751.14 ft / 721.78 ft x 91.86 ft x 27.23 ft (normal load)
228.95 m / 220.00 m x 28.00 m x 8.30 m

Armament:
16 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (8x2 guns), 61.73lbs / 28.00kg shells, 1927 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (12 mounts), 2.20lbs / 1.00kg shells, 1927 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,058 lbs / 480 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 379.07 ft / 115.54 m 11.52 ft / 3.51 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 3.94" / 100 mm 379.07 ft / 115.54 m 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
Main Belt covers 81 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.57" / 40 mm 379.07 ft / 115.54 m 24.44 ft / 7.45 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 1.18" / 30 mm -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 110,000 shp / 82,060 Kw = 30.74 kts
Range 6,000nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 7,224 tons

Complement:
1,047 - 1,362

Cost:
£5.008 million / $20.031 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 140 tons, 0.5 %
Armour: 6,376 tons, 23.8 %
- Belts: 2,235 tons, 8.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 540 tons, 2.0 %
- Armament: 77 tons, 0.3 %
- Armour Deck: 3,410 tons, 12.7 %
- Conning Tower: 114 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 3,472 tons, 12.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,204 tons, 30.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,734 tons, 17.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 3,900 tons, 14.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
51,235 lbs / 23,240 Kg = 764.3 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 7.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
Metacentric height 6.3 ft / 1.9 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.52

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.520
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.86 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 31.19 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 33.79 ft / 10.30 m
- Forecastle (24 %): 33.79 ft / 10.30 m (23.95 ft / 7.30 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 23.95 ft / 7.30 m
- Quarterdeck (24 %): 23.95 ft / 7.30 m
- Stern: 23.95 ft / 7.30 m
- Average freeboard: 26.29 ft / 8.01 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 204.0 %
Waterplane Area: 46,815 Square feet or 4,349 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 146 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 120 lbs/sq ft or 588 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.40
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

- Replacements for old armoured cruisers scrapped because of CT

- New 203mm/53 weapon in triple turrets firing a 125.3kg shell at 900m/s

- 130mm/45 gun with 28kg shells as powerful secondary armament

- Normal AA fit of 37mm and 20mm guns

- Poweful 600mm torpedo armament

- Two catapults amidships with 1 aircraft each

- Armoured against 152mm guns and partially against 203mm weapons

- Fast and long ranged

- Uses historical Zara hull form homogenously enlarged by 1.07 IIRC

- Looks damn good


RM Zara, Italian Cruiser laid down 1927

Displacement:
12,881 t light; 13,442 t standard; 15,114 t normal; 16,452 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
655.12 ft / 631.89 ft x 72.31 ft x 23.87 ft (normal load)
199.68 m / 192.60 m x 22.04 m x 7.28 m

Armament:
9 - 7.99" / 203 mm guns (3x3 guns), 276.24lbs / 125.30kg shells, 1927 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 61.73lbs / 28.00kg shells, 1927 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all forward
12 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (3x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1927 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1927 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 3,001 lbs / 1,361 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 406.82 ft / 124.00 m 10.20 ft / 3.11 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm 1.18" / 30 mm -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 118,000 shp / 88,028 Kw = 34.08 kts
Range 5,430nm at 20.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,009 tons

Complement:
681 - 886

Cost:
£4.625 million / $18.501 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 357 tons, 2.4 %
Armour: 2,729 tons, 18.1 %
- Belts: 1,033 tons, 6.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 481 tons, 3.2 %
- Armour Deck: 1,137 tons, 7.5 %
- Conning Tower: 78 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 3,725 tons, 24.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,020 tons, 39.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,233 tons, 14.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18,493 lbs / 8,388 Kg = 72.5 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 16.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.485
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.74 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.05 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.87 ft / 8.80 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 25.59 ft / 7.80 m
- Mid (64 %): 25.59 ft / 7.80 m (15.75 ft / 4.80 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Stern: 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Average freeboard: 22.28 ft / 6.79 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168.8 %
Waterplane Area: 31,223 Square feet or 2,901 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 614 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.60
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

- 130mm/45 guns with 28kg shells

- 47mm secondary guns give added punch

- 6x600mm torpedoes

- Very fast

- Adequate seakeeping of 1.00



Commandante Toscano, Italian Esploratore laid down 1928

Displacement:
2,900 t light; 3,057 t standard; 3,324 t normal; 3,537 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
449.84 ft / 442.91 ft x 40.03 ft x 16.40 ft (normal load)
137.11 m / 135.00 m x 12.20 m x 5.00 m

Armament:
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 61.73lbs / 28.00kg shells, 1928 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1928 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1928 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
Weight of broadside 527 lbs / 239 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300
6 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 1.18" / 30 mm -
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Conning tower: 2.76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 64,000 shp / 47,744 Kw = 36.19 kts
Range 4,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 480 tons

Complement:
218 - 284

Cost:
£1.565 million / $6.259 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 70 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 55 tons, 1.7 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 42 tons, 1.3 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 1,780 tons, 53.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 944 tons, 28.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 424 tons, 12.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
708 lbs / 321 Kg = 10.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 12.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.400
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.07 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.14 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.67 ft / 6.30 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Stern: 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Average freeboard: 16.58 ft / 5.06 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 192.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.5 %
Waterplane Area: 11,325 Square feet or 1,052 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 71 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 43 lbs/sq ft or 211 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.51
- Longitudinal: 1.45
- Overall: 0.56
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

- Same SS design as Turbine

- Added abovedeck space for accomodation

- More modern bridge and FC systems

- New bow shape

- Exactly the same as previously, its just that I can't build 30 in 1 year.

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Exactly the same as previously, its just that I can't build 30 in 1 year.

With your 17 (18 next quarter) factories and 34 slips and docks... no problem!

Zara is definitly a looker, altho she'd be even better with a foremast...

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With your 17 (18 next quarter) factories and 34 slips and docks... no problem

But then I can't build anythign else.

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Zara is definitly a looker, altho she'd be even better with a foremast..

Foremast??? sacrilige you heathen

Using all your factory output, you can (in theory) build thirty 2,400ton ships in one year (11.5 months to be exact). If I am not mistaken, the Spica isn't even 1,000 tons. As for the slips and docks, When starting on January 1, they'll be available somewhere early June so you can lay down/repair/refit/rebuild other ships after that.

... Foremast. Definitely needs a foremast. :-)

A fast and potent unit.

And resist the impulse to put in a foremast. There lies the Dark Side.

Does the Dark Side include quad 130 mm mounts?

Nice photo shop! What material did you use to create her?

I lioke her without a foremast - even though it looks like the Italians have stolen Queen Ann´s mansion! ;o)

Capitani Romani is relatively close to her historical sister, isn´t she?

I tried with Knights of the Old Republic 2 to get one of my two characters to the dark side...
... unfortunately due to a few certain decisions, that character is more 'light' than 'dark'.

Now if I could only get Dark side points for adding foremasts to those Italian cruiser...
:-)

Why dark? Because the Dark Side has cooler powers. ^_^

"A foremast is your destiny"...

Good work, as usual. I particularly like the new look for your carriers, especially the islands. Can't put a finger on why, exactly, but they just look right to me.

Like the CV and the CA but I have just one little niggle...
Have you thought about setting the mains on the CV lower than the deck edge so as to give a cleaner air flow over the deck and less things to bump into if the take-off or landing is a little wayward? Because they are not connected to the island, there are now 5 points of hazard on the deck instead of just one!

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Nice photo shop! What material did you use to create her?

I lioke her without a foremast - even though it looks like the Italians have stolen Queen Ann´s mansion! ;o)

Capitani Romani is relatively close to her historical sister, isn´t she

Original pic is Bolzano. Not quite a Queen Anne's, I just put in an extra deck to give more room for flag and accomodation. The funnel is separated from the superstructure as in the light cruisers.

Capitani Romani, basically I needed some names, even though I was trying the avoid naming the class as that. Fairly similiar, but a bit smaller and slower.

Quadruple 130mm mounts would prove problematic.

The carriers are a blend of the historical Aquila design and British carriers. The design itself, the lower armoured hangar is quintisensially british as well.

CG, we can't expect the Italian designers to be perfect just yet. At the moment I can train 16 guns on most bearings, so its worth the risk. The biggest advantage of the carriers will be their damage control facilities. After the near loss of Francesco Morosini, things will have changed a lot.

Actually in one project (I forget the number) the Russians did plan to have a quad 130mm mount.
The ship was a small cruiser somewhat similar to your design
(all the details are in storage - I think some numbers are on my laptop at home - if you are interested....)

I thought you had a quad 130mm on one of your exploratori classes?

*goes off to look*

Ah, the one I was thinking of is the Generale Antonio Cantore-class, with quad 100mm turrets.