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Turkey has laid down 4 new Mine warfare ships of the Timsah class. In addition the rebuild of the Protected Cruisers Hamidieh and Medjidieh into Light Cruisers has also been started.

Timsah, Turkey Mine warfare ship laid down 1926

Displacement:
796 t light; 816 t standard; 900 t normal; 967 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
232.17 ft / 225.00 ft x 26.00 ft x 9.00 ft (normal load)
70.77 m / 68.58 m x 7.92 m x 2.74 m

Armament:
1 - 3.47" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 20.80lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1926 Model
Breech loading gun in deck mount
on centreline forward
1 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1926 Model
Breech loading gun in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1926 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 23 lbs / 11 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 6,773 shp / 5,053 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 4,200nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 151 tons

Complement:
81 - 106

Cost:
£0.210 million / $0.838 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 3 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 217 tons, 24.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 466 tons, 51.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 104 tons, 11.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 110 tons, 12.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,443 lbs / 655 Kg = 69.4 x 3.5 " / 88 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.01
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 13.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.07
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.82

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.598
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.65 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.00 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 39
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (60 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m (10.00 ft / 3.05 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Stern: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Average freeboard: 14.80 ft / 4.51 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.9 %
Waterplane Area: 4,271 Square feet or 397 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 159 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 46 lbs/sq ft or 226 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.02
- Longitudinal: 10.19
- Overall: 1.29
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Hamidieh, Turkey Protected Cruiser laid down 1904

Displacement:
3,221 t light; 3,331 t standard; 3,859 t normal; 4,282 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
368.00 ft / 368.00 ft x 48.00 ft x 17.70 ft (normal load)
112.17 m / 112.17 m x 14.63 m x 5.39 m

Armament:
2 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1904 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1904 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
6 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1904 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
6 - 1.46" / 37.1 mm guns in single mounts, 1.56lbs / 0.71kg shells, 1904 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 342 lbs / 155 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
2 - 17.7" / 449.58 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.78" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.91" / 99 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,587 shp / 7,898 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 5,550nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 951 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
244 - 318

Cost:
£0.297 million / $1.187 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 43 tons, 1.1 %
Armour: 809 tons, 21.0 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 804 tons, 20.8 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,059 tons, 27.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,291 tons, 33.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 638 tons, 16.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5,558 lbs / 2,521 Kg = 54.1 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.51
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 11.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.432
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.67 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Mid (0 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.1 %
Waterplane Area: 11,109 Square feet or 1,032 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 339 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.92
- Longitudinal: 2.33
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Refited version

Hamidieh, Turkey Protected Cruiser laid down 1904 (Engine 1927)

Displacement:
3,525 t light; 3,670 t standard; 3,859 t normal; 4,011 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
370.32 ft / 368.00 ft x 48.00 ft x 17.70 ft (normal load)
112.87 m / 112.17 m x 14.63 m x 5.39 m

Armament:
2 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1909 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1909 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 3.47" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 20.80lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1909 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1927 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 712 lbs / 323 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 17.7" / 449.58 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 240.00 ft / 73.15 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm - -
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm - -
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.35" / 60 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 28,916 shp / 21,571 Kw = 27.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 341 tons

Complement:
244 - 318

Cost:
£0.326 million / $1.303 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 89 tons, 2.3 %
Armour: 843 tons, 21.8 %
- Belts: 320 tons, 8.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 40 tons, 1.0 %
- Armour Deck: 483 tons, 12.5 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 913 tons, 23.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,580 tons, 40.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 334 tons, 8.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 2.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4,724 lbs / 2,143 Kg = 46.0 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
Roll period: 14.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.432
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.67 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 16.50 ft / 5.03 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Mid (0 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 16.04 ft / 4.89 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.0 %
Waterplane Area: 11,109 Square feet or 1,032 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 85 lbs/sq ft or 415 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 2.78
- Overall: 1.09
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Medjidieh, Turkey Armoured Cruiser laid down 1903

Displacement:
3,053 t light; 3,148 t standard; 3,473 t normal; 3,733 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
276.00 ft / 276.00 ft x 44.00 ft x 17.50 ft (normal load)
84.12 m / 84.12 m x 13.41 m x 5.33 m

Armament:
2 - 5.10" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 66.33lbs / 30.09kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 5.10" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 66.33lbs / 30.09kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all forward
4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1903 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
Weight of broadside 278 lbs / 126 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12,653 ihp / 9,439 Kw = 21.20 kts
Range 4,700nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 586 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
226 - 294

Cost:
£0.385 million / $1.540 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 35 tons, 1.0 %
Armour: 180 tons, 5.2 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 20 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 160 tons, 4.6 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,778 tons, 51.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,060 tons, 30.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 421 tons, 12.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,653 lbs / 750 Kg = 24.9 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.56
Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 10.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.18
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.70

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.572
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.27 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16.61 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.50 ft / 5.64 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (0 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 173.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.3 %
Waterplane Area: 8,652 Square feet or 804 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 82 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 66 lbs/sq ft or 322 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.88
- Longitudinal: 5.10
- Overall: 1.05
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Refitted version

Medjidieh, Turkey Armoured Cruiser laid down 1903 (Engine 1927)

Displacement:
3,058 t light; 3,190 t standard; 3,473 t normal; 3,699 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
276.00 ft / 276.00 ft x 44.00 ft x 17.50 ft (normal load)
84.12 m / 84.12 m x 13.41 m x 5.33 m

Armament:
2 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1908 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1908 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 3.47" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 20.80lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1909 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1927 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 712 lbs / 323 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 140
8 - 17.7" / 449.58 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 250.00 ft / 76.20 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 139 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18,557 ihp / 13,844 Kw = 23.20 kts
Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 509 tons

Complement:
226 - 294

Cost:
£0.331 million / $1.323 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 89 tons, 2.6 %
Armour: 489 tons, 14.1 %
- Belts: 318 tons, 9.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 11 tons, 0.3 %
- Armour Deck: 160 tons, 4.6 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,064 tons, 30.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,266 tons, 36.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 415 tons, 12.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 4.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
2,715 lbs / 1,231 Kg = 26.4 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 1.8 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 13.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.572
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.27 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16.61 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.50 ft / 5.64 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (0 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 123.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88.9 %
Waterplane Area: 8,652 Square feet or 804 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 79 lbs/sq ft or 384 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 6.03
- Overall: 1.12
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily