Your thoughts please!

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Commodore Green

The Irish Legend

Posts: 3,266

Saturday, February 5th 2005, 2:04am

Your thoughts please!

Which of the following looks right, size wise, for a 12" turret?
A is my 8", E is my 15", my usual 1 pixel = 1 foot scale.

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Kaiser

Unregistered

Saturday, February 5th 2005, 2:30am

B barely looks larger than A. I'd go for C, seeing as C and D seem to be about the same width.

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CanisD

Professional

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 3:11am

D looks a bit better to my eye. Do you have an intermediate size between 12" and 15" in your fleet?

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Swamphen

Mr. Dynamite

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 3:26am

D looks best to me.

Mind if I pinch that graphic?

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Ithekro

Sage

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 3:55am

It depends on the Caliber of your 12 inch guns. C for shorter barrels, D if they are longer.

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Red Admiral

Italian Stallion

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 9:38am

All of them look a bit strange. I think D would be best. The barrels seem to taper too much, how about a constant thickness?

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Commodore Green

The Irish Legend

Posts: 3,266

Saturday, February 5th 2005, 1:40pm

Kaiser = B barely looks larger than A. I'd go for C, seeing as C and D seem to be about the same width.

They are all slightly bigger than the previous turret., the difference is mostly just 2 pixels or 2 feet.

CanisD = D looks a bit better to my eye. Do you have an intermediate size between 12" and 15" in your fleet?

At this moment in Wesworld time, Denmark hasn't anything bigger than 8" (Turret A) in service, but considering the way things are going, I doubt if I will be commissioning anything between 12" and 15"

Swamphen = D looks best to me. Mind if I pinch that graphic?

Feel free! I have more if you want them.

Ithekro = It depends on the Caliber of your 12 inch guns. C for shorter barrels, D if they are longer.

As D is a little bigger, I was originally thinking of it as a 13.5" or 14" turret. Would barrel lenght effect the overall size of a turret - surely a turret for 8" guns could take 8"/50 just as easily as 8"/40?

Red Admiral = All of them look a bit strange. I think D would be best. The barrels seem to taper too much, how about a constant thickness?

Strange in what way? As for the taper, I tried it other ways but they tend to look like tooth-picks!

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HoOmAn

Keeper of the Sacred Block Coefficient

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 3:25pm

I´d take D.

Witht he exception of A all barrels are too long.

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AdmKuznetsov

Sage

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 7:17pm

I vote C.

What is the caliber of the 8", 12", and 15" guns under consideration?

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Commodore Green

The Irish Legend

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 7:31pm

Quoted

Originally posted by AdmKuznetsov
What is the caliber of the 8", 12", and 15" guns under consideration?

Must admit, never really have played about with "Big Gun" software!

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AdmKuznetsov

Sage

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 8:17pm

Don't need Big Gun

If you selected a caliber, 40 to a bit over 50 in the WesWorld usually, it will help you draw the gun length realistically.

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Ithekro

Sage

Posts: 3,661

Saturday, February 5th 2005, 8:36pm

Calibers

Standard US style calibers:
12"/40 cal = 40 foot long barrels
12"/45 cal = 45 foot long barrels
12"/50 cal = 50 foot long barrels
(I sense a pattern here?)

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Commodore Green

The Irish Legend

Posts: 3,266

Saturday, February 5th 2005, 8:57pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Ithekro
Standard US style calibers:
12"/40 cal = 40 foot long barrels
12"/45 cal = 45 foot long barrels
12"/50 cal = 50 foot long barrels
(I sense a pattern here?)

I know how the sizing system works, I just didn't see the point in giving data for barrel lenght when there was nothing to back them up, and DOS based programs just leave me COLD!!!!

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Ithekro

Sage

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Saturday, February 5th 2005, 9:23pm

warships1

If you use an existing type the data exists already, so you would just have to decide on a caliber for artistic reasons.

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Red Admiral

Italian Stallion

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Sunday, February 6th 2005, 11:27am

Quoted

(I sense a pattern here?)

Errr 1ft is equal to 12".

For barrel length. 45-cal gives a good gun with long barrel life. 50-cal gives a gun with shorter barrel life, but more power.

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alt_naval

Professional

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Sunday, February 6th 2005, 12:02pm

I'd go for C for a twin 12" although you could have the barrels as close together as A.

Cheers,

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Swamphen

Mr. Dynamite

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Sunday, February 6th 2005, 5:51pm

Quoted

For barrel length. 45-cal gives a good gun with long barrel life. 50-cal gives a gun with shorter barrel life, but more power.

And what of a 12"/55?

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Red Admiral

Italian Stallion

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Sunday, February 6th 2005, 7:47pm

Even shorter barrel life. For the US 16"/56 experimental gun, this was 125 full charges.

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Ithekro

Sage

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Sunday, February 6th 2005, 7:49pm

It depends on your muzzel velocity. The 12"/55 would have a shorter life but higher penitration at different ranges than the 50 or 45 caliber cannons. However it would last longer if one used the charge of a 45 caliber in the 55 I would think.

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Red Admiral

Italian Stallion

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Sunday, February 6th 2005, 7:57pm

The charges are more or less identical for a 45 or 55 cal weapon, the longer the projectile spends in the barrel, the more speed it gains. Also because of the longer barrel, the liner is exposed to the hot gases for longer, bringing barrel life down.

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