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AdmKuznetsov

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 1:04pm

Where do aircraft land?

Skiplanes. You'll need to land on a spot within sight, and then have the icebreaker come to the plane though.

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 2:13pm

Skiplanes landing on packice is stupid. It would be nearly impossible to find an actually flat area to land on, they just don't exist. Then when your ship breaks up the pack to come and get you, the ice which you are sitting on breaks and the plane slowly sinks to the bottom.

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 2:57pm

Three options

1) Use skiplanes, and have them taxi back to the 'breaker, which is frozen into the ice on an overwintering research mission.

2) Use seaplanes, and do not operate them while actually in the ice.

3) Use Colonel Oonishi Manzo, and have the plane arrive directly back on board every time!! ^_^

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 3:17pm

Wouldn't option number 3 turn it into a vessel of the Aircraft carrier category??
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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 4:56pm

But then EVERY ship would be a CV! I think we need a "Manzo Clause" when we update the treaty.

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 5:10pm

Doesn't the aircraft have to land "intact" for a vessel to be considered an aircraft carrier?

Rooijen10

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 5:12pm

Unfortunately that is not mentioned in the CT. We only assume this to be the case.

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 5:53pm

Quoted

1) Use skiplanes, and have them taxi back to the 'breaker, which is frozen into the ice on an overwintering research mission.


But its impossible to land skiplanes because the ice isn't flat.

Rooijen10

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 6:17pm

I agree. That would mean that option 2 is the best one.

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 6:35pm

There is the old aviation addage " Any landing you can walk away from is a good one!" (irrespective of the condition of the plane!).

On that basis, due to Manzo's uncanny ability to survive his "landings", any ship he "lands" aboard would have to be re-classified as a CV immediately, and due to Clieto Treaty limits, if said re-classification brought the signatory nation over it's limit for CV's, the vessels captain would be obliged to scuttle his ship to prevent a breach of the treaty!!

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 7:05pm

As far as aircraft go, weren't autogryos around at this time. They weren't quite a helicopter yet but they could land/take off in just feet.

Rooijen10

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 7:13pm

Yes. The Iberians are experimenting with them.

Swamphen

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 7:22pm

...which is, to the Filipinos, good reason not to do the same. :-)

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Sunday, March 6th 2005, 9:09pm

With an Ice breaker you wouldn't need to land on pack ice, you could make a runway for a floatplane.

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Monday, March 7th 2005, 12:07pm

maybe all the guns are for breaking up the ice?

or for research. "We killed 450 minke whales for research purposes. We discovered that there are 450 less minke whales than there were before. Job done - lets go home."

Cheers,

PS. Is this ship heated, airconditioned or both?

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Monday, March 7th 2005, 12:49pm

I would assume both. You need the heating in the polar region, and you would need the airco in the Tropical zone.

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Monday, March 7th 2005, 3:09pm

Quoted

Or for research. "We killed 450 minke whales for research purposes. We discovered that there are 450 less minke whales than there were before.

Definitly sounds like government-funded research... :-)

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Is this ship heated, airconditioned or both?

Both. I included them in the catch-all "winterization" tonnage.
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