WesWorld

Could everyone post the stats for their flagships as of 1921 please. I'd like to see what the competition is.

Mine is Caio Duilio however she will soon be replaced by a Fransesco Caracciolo class vessel.

Caio Duilio, Italian Battleship laid down 1912

Displacement:
20,585 t light; 22,141 t standard; 23,036 t normal; 23,660 t full load
Loading submergence 988 tons/feet

Dimensions:
554.50 ft x 91.10 ft x 28.10 ft (normal load)
169.01 m x 27.77 m x 8.56 m

Armament:
13 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (5 Main turrets, 2 superfiring turrets)
16 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns
13 - 3.00" / 76 mm QF guns
Weight of broadside 13,136 lbs / 5,958 kg

Armour:
Belt 9.80" / 249 mm, upper belt 5.10" / 130 mm, end belts 3.00" / 76 mm
Belts cover 98 % of normal area
Main turrets 11.00" / 279 mm, 2nd gun shields 4.00" / 102 mm
Armour deck 2.60" / 66 mm, Conning tower 11.00" / 279 mm
Torpedo bulkhead 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 32,835 shp / 24,495 Kw = 21.50 kts
Range 4,800nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
934 - 1,215

Cost:
£2.301 million / $9.205 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,642 tons, 7.1 %
Armour: 8,488 tons, 36.8 %
Belts: 2,596 tons, 11.3 %, Armament: 3,287 tons, 14.3 %, Armour Deck: 1,663 tons, 7.2 %
Conning Tower: 192 tons, 0.8 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 749 tons, 3.3 %
Machinery: 1,440 tons, 6.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,015 tons, 39.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,451 tons, 10.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 4.8

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.05
Shellfire needed to sink: 20,463 lbs / 9,282 Kg = 23.7 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 3.4
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 47 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.58
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.568
Sharpness coefficient: 0.42
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 5.96
'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim: 42
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 96.9 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 112.8 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 94 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.96
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 188 lbs / square foot or 917 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.36
(for 16.00 ft / 4.88 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment -1.89 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

13 guns in 5 turrets????? can you please post the layout?

and I was debating reposting my designs anyway, as I think we should all do - in individual threads per country please with the admins making those threads sticky.

and admins please: which forum do we use for that? In here?

cheers

Bernhard

The historical layout of the ships as they were when built. Originally, they had a triple and a twin forward and aft, and a triple midships in Q-position (i.e. from bow to stern triple, twin, superstructure, triple, superstructure, twin, triple). The historical rebuild deleted the midships triple, and replaced it with more machinery-space, to greatly increase speed.

LordArpad,

as you can see here as an example

http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?th…7071c8416723d1b

some of us have posted their fleets, deployements and a summary of their units (as of 1-1-21) in the infrastructure forum. This is a good place for your initial layout and if you add it as a reply to your infrastructure, it will be sticky.

Further changes, new vessels etc. will be posted in the SIM reports forum together with your quarterly reports. So everybody will know what is going on in Iberia.

It is up to the players if and when they post a new summary of their fleets, deployements etc. Such a summary can then be added to the infrastructure forum again. Maybe it makes sense to post a summary whenever we reach a new year (so together with the quarterly report for the first quarter - but in two different threads - the report to the SIM reports forum, the summary to the infrastructure forum).

This (the ship design forum) was only meant to be for discussions if somebody faces problems, wants input or just for the sake of it.

Hope this helps,

HoOmAn

Currently serving as the RSANs flagship of the First Fleet stationed in Durban (1st Battle Squadron) is RSAN SOUTH AFRICA. She´s acting as flagship since mid-1919 when she finished her shake down cruise. The SOUTH AFRICA, together with her sistership CAMEROON, is the largest and most powerful warship currently sailing under the SAEs flag.
Her relatively low seakeeping is sometimes seen as a problem but in general the ship is rated as one of the best BBs afloat around the world - by south african sailors and press that is.


South Africa, laid down 1915

Displacement:
34.389 t light; 36.457 t standard; 38.997 t normal; 40.873 t full load
Loading submergence 1.555 tons/feet

Dimensions:
721,78 ft x 104,99 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
220,00 m x 32,00 m x 9,00 m

Armament:
8 - 14,96" / 380 mm guns (4 Main turrets x 2 guns, 2 superfiring turrets)
16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns
12 - 3,46" / 88 mm AA guns
8 - 3,46" / 88 mm guns
Weight of broadside 15.457 lbs / 7.011 kg

Hull Armour:
Belt 13,78" / 350 mm
(Belts cover 92% of normal area, inclined 8°)
Uper belt 7,87" / 200 mm, end belts 5,91" / 150 mm
Armour deck 3,15" / 80 mm
(Allocation: Over engines and magazines - 10.0 cm; ends - 5.0 cm)
Conning tower 13,78" / 350 mm
Torpedo bulkhead 0,98" / 25 mm

Battery Armour:
Main turrets 14,96" / 380 mm
(Allocation: Front - 38.0 cm; Sides - 32.0 cm; Back - 28.0 cm, Roof - 15.0 cm)
2nd gun casemats 7,87" / 200 mm
QF gun casemats 1,97" / 50 mm
AA gun shields 0,98" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 110.012 shp / 82.069 Kw = 27,54 kts
(Trials with 15% overload for 126.503 shp / 94.371 shaft kw = 28,526 kts)
Range 10.500nm at 12,00 kts

Complement:
1.387 - 1.803

Cost:
£4,960 million / $19,840 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1.932 tons, 5,0%
Armour: 13.363 tons, 34,3%
Belts: 4.918 tons, 12,6%, Armament: 4.427 tons, 11,4%, Armour Deck: 3.171 tons, 8,1%
Conning Tower: 343 tons, 0,9%, Torpedo bulkhead: 504 tons, 1,3%
Machinery: 4.167 tons, 10,7%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 14.876 tons, 38,1%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.608 tons, 11,8%
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0,1%

Metacentric height 6,2

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1,07
Shellfire needed to sink: 40.744 lbs / 18.481 Kg = 24,3 x 15,0 " / 380 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 5,3
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 51 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0,49
Relative quality as seaboat: 1,00

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0,610
Sharpness coefficient: 0,41
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 6,51
'Natural speed' for length: 26,87 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim: 51
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 90,9%
Relative accommodation and working space: 158,1%
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 105%
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0,98
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 199 lbs / square foot or 972 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1,12
(for 21,16 ft / 6,45 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 1,28 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1,00

Hmmm... stuffing the fleet in the infrastructure forum... I think I might do that especially since I changed my whole fleet from springstyle to springsharp with some minor adjustments (well almost all of them. Only the tugs, oilers, cargoships etc need to be changed... Also their AA armament hasn't been adjusted like what I did with the warships.)


As for Japan's Flagship:

Fuso, Japan Battleship laid down 1914

Displacement:
30,071 t light; 32,322 t standard; 39,435 t normal; 44,968 t full load
Loading submergence 1,556 tons/feet

Dimensions:
710.00 ft x 108.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
216.41 m x 32.92 m x 9.14 m

Armament:
12 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (6 Main turrets x 2 guns, 2 superfiring turrets)
16 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns
Secondary guns mounted low & subject to being washed down in a seaway
18 - 1.97" / 50 mm AA guns
42 - 0.98" / 25 mm guns
Weight of broadside 17,553 lbs / 7,962 kg
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
Belt 12.00" / 305 mm, upper belt 7.00" / 178 mm, end belts 3.50" / 89 mm
Belts cover 85 % of normal area
Main turrets 11.00" / 279 mm, 2nd casemates 4.00" / 102 mm
AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm, Light gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm
Armour deck 2.50" / 64 mm, Conning tower 13.00" / 330 mm
Torpedo bulkhead 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 65,379 shp / 48,772 Kw = 24.00 kts
Range 17,000nm at 15.00 kts

Complement:
1,399 - 1,818

Cost:
£4.134 million / $16.536 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,194 tons, 5.6 %
Armour: 11,375 tons, 28.8 %
Belts: 3,815 tons, 9.7 %, Armament: 3,691 tons, 9.4 %, Armour Deck: 2,519 tons, 6.4 %
Conning Tower: 326 tons, 0.8 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 1,025 tons, 2.6 %
Machinery: 2,518 tons, 6.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,883 tons, 35.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 9,365 tons, 23.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.3 %

Metacentric height 8.0

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.21
Shellfire needed to sink: 44,214 lbs / 20,055 Kg = 32.2 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 6.6
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 57 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.38
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.600
Sharpness coefficient: 0.42
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 6.38
'Natural speed' for length: 26.65 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim: 50
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 82.0 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 126.0 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 116 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 1.01
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 193 lbs / square foot or 944 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.00
(for 17.00 ft / 5.18 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment -2.92 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00



Walter

Class of four, the last two are currently fitting out and due to be commissioned 1921 and 22 repsectively.

Portugal, Iberia BB laid down 1914

Displacement:
30,472 t light; 32,633 t standard; 34,074 t normal; 35,091 t full load
Loading submergence 1,460 tons/feet

Dimensions:
649.61 ft x 104.99 ft x 26.90 ft (normal load)
198.00 m x 32.00 m x 8.20 m

Armament:
12 - 13.78" / 350 mm guns (4 Main turrets x 3 guns, 2 superfiring turrets)
12 - 6.69" / 170 mm guns
Secondary guns mounted low & subject to being washed down in a seaway
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm AA guns
4 - 2.24" / 57 mm guns
Weight of broadside 17,764 lbs / 8,058 kg
5 - 18.9" / 480 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
Belt 13.39" / 340 mm, upper belt 7.87" / 200 mm, end belts 5.91" / 150 mm
Belts cover 100 % of normal area
Main turrets 13.39" / 340 mm, 2nd casemates 7.87" / 200 mm
AA gun shields 0.98" / 25 mm
Armour deck 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower 14.17" / 360 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 45,362 shp / 33,840 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 9,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
1,253 - 1,630

Cost:
£4.043 million / $16.171 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,220 tons, 6.5 %
Armour: 11,789 tons, 34.6 %
Belts: 4,785 tons, 14.0 %, Armament: 4,821 tons, 14.1 %, Armour Deck: 1,861 tons, 5.5 %
Conning Tower: 322 tons, 0.9 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,747 tons, 5.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 14,715 tons, 43.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,603 tons, 10.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 5.7

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.03
Shellfire needed to sink: 50,052 lbs / 22,703 Kg = 38.3 x 13.8 " / 350 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 4.4
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 74 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.82
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.48

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.650
Sharpness coefficient: 0.44
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 6.13
'Natural speed' for length: 25.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim: 50
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 69.4 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 183.5 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 103 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.96
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 212 lbs / square foot or 1,033 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.58
(for 23.62 ft / 7.20 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 4.27 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.01

Walter,

shouldn´t your flagship have 3 superfiring turrets?

Just curious....

I believe that....
*looking for picture*
... you're right...
... but only historically and for the big picture I sent to you. I have actually lowered the Q turret on the small picture I have (that's the one in the left hand corner of the big one) since I use 2 superfiring guns rather than 3. I still need to correct it on the larger drawing.

Question. Would the Q turret, at the same level as the A and P turret (which are non superfiring) still be superfiring when comparing it with the Y turret ? Cause if that is the case, then A, B, P, Q, and X are all superfiring guns.
As far as I am concerned the barbette for Q would be the same as for P and A. Therefore I did not count that as a superfiring gun (could be wrong about that though).

Walter

Well, looking at your pic again, you´re maybe right with only 2 superfiring turrets. As for your question: No, those turrets would not be rated as superfiring.

BUT there is something I like to comment:

I wonder where you will place your boilers and turbines?!? I haven´t noticed it yet but especially when lowering D (the forth from the bow9 turret you will not have enough hull space due to all those barbets.

I´m assuming the boilers are below the funnels. That´s the only place where it makes sense. But the turbines? There is definitively not enough room aft of the funnels due to the barbets and magazins for D, E and F turret. The only place you could place the turbines is below your forward superstructure what doesn´t make sense at all.

So maybe you have to redesign your ship. :o( Put the boilers below the forward superstructure (where they were on many historical designs), place the funnels aft of the superstructure and then try to find a layout for your turrets to allow enough hullspace for the turbines.

Maybe you should consider to build your ships like the original japanese or american 6-turret BBs or to place three turrets forward and three aft - like Nelson and Rodney tied together stern by stern. :o)

Oh dear.

Looks like I worried too much about lack of space between the P and Q turret for the boilers that I forgot about room for the turbines...

... guess I'll have to go back to the drawing board and solve that problem...

Looking at a historical side view, if I'm correct, a number of Fuso's boilers were in front of the P turrets and the rest between the P and Q turret, right ?

Perhaps I ought to go back to the 3-2-2-2-3 layout...

Walter

well it seems everybody has comparable ships except me.
This will soon be remedied by Fransesco Caracciolo. She will be faster than any of these ships and have a powerful armament. There are some stats under the thread Italian Fleet but i have slightly modified the design.

India's flagship is SR Hyderabad, which would rate as the fastest but smallest fleet flagship yet mentioned: She's a locally produced Type A cruiser. Partial stats are copied below.

The Admiral of the Navy has not yet indicated whether the flag will shift to either of the two ex-South African battleships when those units are commissioned.

Hyderabad II class cruiser:

Length, 600 ft x Beam, 60.0 ft x Depth, 18.5 ft
8943 tons normal displacement (8450 tons standard)

Main battery: 6 x 8.2-inch
Secondary battery: 4 x 4.1-inch
AA battery: 4 x 1.4-inch
Light battery: 4 x 0.6-inch
Weight of broadside: 1799 lbs

8 TT, 19.7"

Maximum speed for 59882 shp = 30.00 knots
Approximate cruising radius, 8000 nm / 10 kts
Typical complement: 460-598
Estimated cost, $6.205 million (£1.551 million)

Oil firing.
Ship has slow, easy roll; a good, steady gun platform.
Ship is roomy, with superior accommodation and working space.

Heres my flag ship.....

Melampus/Theseus, Atlantis battleship laid down 1919

Displacement:
34,841 t light; 36,871 t standard; 40,035 t normal; 42,407 t full load
Loading submergence 1,549 tons/feet

Dimensions:
720.00 ft x 102.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
219.46 m x 31.09 m x 9.14 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4 Main turrets x 2 guns, 2 superfiring turrets)
14 - 5.50" / 140 mm guns
6 - 3.00" / 76 mm AA guns
12 - 1.00" / 25 mm guns
Weight of broadside 14,752 lbs / 6,691 kg

Armour:
Belt 14.00" / 356 mm, upper belt 9.00" / 229 mm, end belts 3.00" / 76 mm
Belts cover 85 % of normal area
Main turrets 15.00" / 381 mm, 2nd gun shields 3.00" / 76 mm
AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm
Armour deck 4.50" / 114 mm, Conning tower 12.00" / 305 mm
Torpedo bulkhead 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 91,774 shp / 68,464 Kw = 26.15 kts
Range 15,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
1,415 - 1,839

Cost:
£7.036 million / $28.142 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,844 tons, 4.6 %
Armour: 14,508 tons, 36.2 %
Belts: 4,388 tons, 11.0 %, Armament: 4,263 tons, 10.6 %, Armour Deck: 4,515 tons, 11.3 %
Conning Tower: 304 tons, 0.8 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 1,039 tons, 2.6 %
Machinery: 3,259 tons, 8.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,080 tons, 37.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,194 tons, 13.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 0.4 %

Metacentric height 5.2

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.01
Shellfire needed to sink: 47,338 lbs / 21,472 Kg = 28.1 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 7.0
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 70 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.65
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.636
Sharpness coefficient: 0.42
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 6.44
'Natural speed' for length: 26.83 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim: 58
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 78.5 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 160.6 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 111 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 1.01
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 199 lbs / square foot or 974 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.25
(for 22.00 ft / 6.71 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 2.02 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.03

Russian federation Navy flagship is battlecruiser Izmail, currently serving in Northern Fleet. Upon commissioning of battleship Petr Veliki, expected in December 1921, Flag of Russian Federation Navy will be transferred to that ship.

Izmail Class Battlecruiser, laid down 1913
Length, 225.0 m x Beam, 30.5 m x Depth, 9.6 m
33877 tonnes normal displacement (32486 tonnes standard)
Main battery: 12 x 35.6-cm (4 x 3; 1 superfiring)
Secondary battery: 24 x 13.0-cm (24 x 1)
QF battery: 4 x 7.5-cm (4 x 1)
Light battery: 4 x 1.3-cm (4 x 1)
Weight of broadside: 8271 kg
6 TT, 53.0 cm
Main belt, 24.0 cm; ends unarmored
Upper belt, 10.0 cm
Torpedo bulkhead, 3.0 cm
Armor deck, average 6.0 cm
Conning tower, 39.0 cm
Battery armor:
Main, 30.5 cm / secondary, 15.0 cm
QF, 2.5 cm shields
Maximum speed for 65676 shaft kw = 27.00 knots
Approximate cruising radius, 3000 nm / 16 knots
Typical complement: 1249-1623

Estimated cost, $15.071 million (£3.768 million)
Remarks:
Oil firing.
Relative extent of belt armor, 107 percent of 'typical' coverage.
Ship has slow, easy roll; a good, steady gun platform.
Good seaboat; rides out heavy weather easily.
Ship is roomy, with superior accommodation and working space.
Main deck secondary guns subject to being washed down
in a seaway.

Distribution of weights:
Percent
normal
displacement:
Armament ......................... 2275 tonnes = 7 pct
Armor, total ..................... 10113 tonnes = 30 pct
Belt 3140 tonnes = 9 pct
Torpedo bulkhead 660 tonnes = 2 pct
Deck 2053 tonnes = 6 pct
C.T. 348 tonnes = 1 pct
Armament 3913 tonnes = 12 pct
Machinery ........................ 3448 tonnes = 10 pct
Hull and fittings; equipment ..... 14455 tonnes = 43 pct
Fuel, ammunition, stores ......... 3585 tonnes = 11 pct
Miscellaneous weights ............ 0 tonnes = 0 pct
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33877 tonnes = 100 pct
Estimated metacentric height, 1.5 m
Displacement summary:
Light ship: 30292 tonnes
Standard displacement: 32486 tonnes
Normal service: 33877 tonnes
Full load: 34855 tonnes
Loading submergence 4407 tonnes/metre
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Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.00
Shellfire needed to sink: 12308 kg = 19.7 x 35.6-cm shells
(Approximates weight of penetrating
shell hits needed to sink ship,
not counting critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 3.7
(Approximates number of 'typical'
torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform, 70 percent
(50 percent is 'average')
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam, 0.83
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.21
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Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.51
Sharpness coefficient: 0.37
Hull speed coefficient 'M' = 6.98
'Natural speed' for length = 27.2 knots
Power going to wave formation
at top speed: 46 percent

Estimated hull characteristics and strength:
Relative underwater volume absorbed by
magazines and engineering spaces: 106 percent
Relative accommodation and working space: 141 percent

Displacement factor: 98 percent
(Displacement relative to loading factors)

Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.99
(Structure weight per square
metre of hull surface: 1029 kg)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.26
(for 6.20 m average freeboard;
freeboard adjustment +0.31 m)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.01
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[Machine-readable parameters: Spring Style v. 1.2.1]
738.00 x 100.04 x 31.49; 20.34 -- Dimensions
0.51 -- Block coefficient
1913 -- Year laid down
27.00 / 3000 / 16.00; Oil-fired turbine or equivalent -- Speed / radius / cruise
0 tons -- Miscellaneous weights
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12 x 14.02; 4; 1 -- Main battery; turrets; superfiring
:
24 x 5.12; 0 -- Secondary battery; turrets
Main deck battery
:
4 x 2.95 -- Tertiary (QF/AA) battery
Gun-shields
:
4 x 0.51 -- Fourth (light) battery
6 / 0 / 20.87 -- TT / submerged / size
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9.45 / 0.00 / 3.94 / 1.18; 107 -- Belt armor; relative extent
2.36 / 15.35 -- Deck / CT
12.01 / 5.91 / 0.98 / 0.00 -- Battery armor

(Note: For portability, values are stored in Anglo-American units)

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The flagship of the Fleet of the Republic of France is the battleship Provence.


Provence Class Battleship, laid down 1912
Length, 167.0 m x Beam, 28.3 m x Depth, 8.7 m
24458 tonnes normal displacement (23407 tonnes standard)
Main battery: 10 x 34.0-cm (5 x 2; 2 superfiring)
Secondary battery: 22 x 14.0-cm
QF battery: 7 x 10.0-cm
Light battery: 6 x 4.5-cm
Weight of broadside: 6393 kg
4 TT, 45.0 cm (submerged)
Main belt, 27.0 cm; bow and stern, 18.0 cm
Torpedo bulkhead, 6.0 cm
Armor deck, average 5.8 cm
Conning tower, 31.5 cm
Battery armor:
Main, 40.0 cm / secondary, 10.0 cm
QF, 2.5 cm shields
Maximum speed for 19569 shaft kw = 20.00 knots
Approximate cruising radius, 5500 nm / 10 knots
Typical complement: 978-1271

Estimated cost, $9.596 million (£2.399 million)
Remarks:
Relative extent of belt armor, 94 percent of 'typical' coverage.
Main deck secondary guns subject to being washed down
in a seaway.

Distribution of weights:
Percent
normal
displacement:
Armament ......................... 1758 tonnes = 7 pct
Armor, total ..................... 9147 tonnes = 37 pct
Belt 2346 tonnes = 10 pct
Torpedo bulkhead 888 tonnes = 4 pct
Deck 1508 tonnes = 6 pct
C.T. 226 tonnes = 1 pct
Armament 4179 tonnes = 17 pct
Machinery ........................ 1150 tonnes = 5 pct
Hull and fittings; equipment ..... 9665 tonnes = 40 pct
Fuel, ammunition, stores ......... 2713 tonnes = 11 pct
Miscellaneous weights ............ 25 tonnes = 0 pct
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24458 tonnes = 100 pct
Estimated metacentric height, 1.4 m
Displacement summary:
Light ship: 21745 tonnes
Standard displacement: 23407 tonnes
Normal service: 24458 tonnes
Full load: 25202 tonnes
Loading submergence 3346 tonnes/metre
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Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.01
Shellfire needed to sink: 9899 kg = 18.2 x 34.0-cm shells
(Approximates weight of penetrating
shell hits needed to sink ship,
not counting critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 3.6
(Approximates number of 'typical'
torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform, 52 percent
(50 percent is 'average')
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam, 0.60
Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.12
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Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.59
Sharpness coefficient: 0.43
Hull speed coefficient 'M' = 5.77
'Natural speed' for length = 23.4 knots
Power going to wave formation
at top speed: 44 percent

Estimated hull characteristics and strength:
Relative underwater volume absorbed by
magazines and engineering spaces: 93 percent
Relative accommodation and working space: 109 percent

Displacement factor: 96 percent
(Displacement relative to loading factors)

Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.99
(Structure weight per square
metre of hull surface: 969 kg)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.37
(for 4.80 m average freeboard;
freeboard adjustment -0.72 m)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.03
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[Machine-readable parameters: Spring Style v. 1.2.1]
547.76 x 92.82 x 28.54; 15.74 -- Dimensions
0.59 -- Block coefficient
1912 -- Year laid down
20.00 / 5500 / 10.00; Turbine, coal fired -- Speed / radius / cruise
25 tons -- Miscellaneous weights
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10 x 13.39; 5; 2 -- Main battery; turrets; superfiring
:
22 x 5.51; 0 -- Secondary battery; turrets
Main deck battery
:
7 x 3.94 -- Tertiary (QF/AA) battery
Gun-shields
:
6 x 1.77 -- Fourth (light) battery
4 / 4 / 17.72 -- TT / submerged / size
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10.63 / 7.09 / 0.00 / 2.36; 94 -- Belt armor; relative extent
2.28 / 12.40 -- Deck / CT
15.75 / 3.94 / 0.98 / 0.00 -- Battery armor

(Note: For portability, values are stored in Anglo-American units)

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Hmmm... Besides the lack of space for the engine room, I realized most of Fuso's smaller craft were located around the Q turret. Since mine wasn't superfiring, it would be hard to place them there... so back to 3 superfiring turrets.

This is probably the 20th time that I simmed the Fuso...


Fuso, Japan Battleship laid down 1914

Displacement:
29,987 t light; 32,238 t standard; 39,435 t normal; 45,035 t full load
Loading submergence 1,556 tons/feet

Dimensions:
710.00 ft x 108.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
216.41 m x 32.92 m x 9.14 m

Armament:
12 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (6 Main turrets x 2 guns, 3 superfiring turrets)
16 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns
Secondary guns mounted low & subject to being washed down in a seaway
18 - 1.97" / 50 mm AA guns
42 - 0.98" / 25 mm guns
Weight of broadside 17,553 lbs / 7,962 kg
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
Belt 12.00" / 305 mm, upper belt 7.00" / 178 mm, end belts 3.50" / 89 mm
Belts cover 85 % of normal area
Main turrets 11.00" / 279 mm, 2nd casemates 4.00" / 102 mm
AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm, Light gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm
Armour deck 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower 13.00" / 330 mm
Torpedo bulkhead 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 65,379 shp / 48,772 Kw = 24.00 kts
Range 17,200nm at 15.00 kts

Complement:
1,399 - 1,818

Cost:
£4.130 million / $16.521 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,194 tons, 5.6 %
Armour: 11,053 tons, 28.0 %
Belts: 3,815 tons, 9.7 %, Armament: 3,872 tons, 9.8 %, Armour Deck: 2,015 tons, 5.1 %
Conning Tower: 326 tons, 0.8 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 1,025 tons, 2.6 %
Machinery: 2,518 tons, 6.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 14,122 tons, 35.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 9,449 tons, 24.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.3 %

Metacentric height 7.6

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.17
Shellfire needed to sink: 43,753 lbs / 19,846 Kg = 31.9 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 6.6
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 56 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.39
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.600
Sharpness coefficient: 0.42
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 6.38
'Natural speed' for length: 26.65 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim: 50
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 82.0 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 127.5 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 117 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 1.01
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 196 lbs / square foot or 959 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.00
(for 17.20 ft / 5.24 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment -2.72 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00


Walter

Rather late, but here it is. The flagship of the Royal Nordmark Navy is the Kong Sverre. It has not been springstyled or springsharpened, for reasons which will be clear when you review the stats:

RNNS KONG SVERRE

• Laid down: 1859
  
• Completed: 1864
  
• Length: 77.2 m (253.3 ft)
  
• Beam: 15.1 m (49.5 ft)
  
• Draught: 6.8 m (22.3 ft)
  
• Machinery: Condensing horisontal cylinder 2-cyl steam engine, six boilers
  
• Power: 1800 ihp, 600 nhp
  
• Speed: 11.4 knots max under steam
  
• Sail: 2391 sq.m. (24 961 sq.ft.)
  Max speed under canvas, or combination canvas+steam, not known
  
• Coal: 377 tons
  
• Consumption/hour: 2.44 ton coal, 7.75 litres (ca. 2 gallon) lube-oil, 2.5 kg (5.5 lbs) grease
  
• Complement: 550-600 men
  
• Armament:
  - 2 - 7.9in L/13, wight 7620 kg (16764 lbs) smoothbore muzzleloader as chaser and stern-piece
  - 8 - 54.7lbs solid shot guns L/14.5 M/1855, weight 4750 kg (10450 lbs) as broadside-battery
  - 22 - 54.7lbs bomb-guns No. 1 L/13 M/1853, weight 3250 kg (7150 lbs) as broadside-battery
  - 12 - 22.8lbs (6in) rifled muzzle-loader L/19, weight 2990 kg (6578 lbs), as broadside-battery
  - 4 - 10.9lbs howitzer L/6.5 M/1854, weight 100 kg (220 lbs) as boat- and landing-guns
  - 2 - 5.5lbs/3.6in rifled metal-gun L16-18, weight 500 kg (1100 lbs), as boat- or landing-gun
  

As they say in the movie Ghostbusters II when the ghost of the Titanic pulls into New york harbour....better late than never! i take it shes not the most powerful ship in the fleet, but in fact a very fansy flagship?