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Sunday, October 3rd 2004, 9:09pm

And now some british battleships...

[SIZE=3]R Class - 5 Units[/SIZE]

Royal Sovereign
Royal Oak
Resolution
Ramillies
Revenge

R Class, British Battleship laid down 1913

Displacement:
26.238 t light; 28.110 t standard; 29.861 t normal; 31.142 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
624,50 ft / 624,50 ft x 88,50 ft x 30,50 ft (normal load)
190,35 m / 190,35 m x 26,97 m x 9,30 m

Armament:
8 - 15,00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.687,50lbs / 765,44kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
14 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
2 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm guns in single mounts, 13,39lbs / 6,07kg shells, 1913 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 15.039 lbs / 6.821 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
4 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,0" / 330 mm 420,00 ft / 128,02 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
Ends: 6,00" / 152 mm 204,00 ft / 62,18 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
Upper: 6,00" / 152 mm 310,00 ft / 94,49 m 8,00 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
2,00" / 51 mm 510,00 ft / 155,45 m 28,00 ft / 8,53 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,0" / 330 mm 8,00" / 203 mm 8,00" / 203 mm
2nd: 6,00" / 152 mm - -
3rd: 1,00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3,00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 11,00" / 279 mm

Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 48.146 shp / 35.917 Kw = 23,00 kts
Range 6.100nm at 13,00 kts (Bunkerage = 3.151 tons)

Complement:
1.135 - 1.476

Cost:
£3,019 million / $12,077 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1.880 tons, 6,3 %
Armour: 10.300 tons, 34,5 %
- Belts: 4.048 tons, 13,6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1.057 tons, 3,5 %
- Armament: 2.723 tons, 9,1 %
- Armour Deck: 2.243 tons, 7,5 %
- Conning Tower: 229 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 1.930 tons, 6,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11.978 tons, 40,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3.623 tons, 12,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 0,5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
32.814 lbs / 14.884 Kg = 19,4 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 4,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 5,3 ft / 1,6 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 43 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,97
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0,620
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,06 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 30
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26,00 ft / 7,92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 25,00 ft / 7,62 m
- Mid (50 %): 24,00 ft / 7,32 m
- Quarterdeck (30 %): 16,00 ft / 4,88 m (24,00 ft / 7,32 m before break)
- Stern: 16,00 ft / 4,88 m
- Average freeboard: 22,03 ft / 6,71 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 164,8 %
Waterplane Area: 40.415 Square feet or 3.755 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 199 lbs/sq ft or 973 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,99
- Longitudinal: 1,73
- Overall: 1,05
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Sunday, October 3rd 2004, 9:11pm

The Queens...

[SIZE=3]Queen Elizabeth Class - 5 Units[/SIZE]

Queen Elizabeth
Warspite
Valiant
Barham
Malaya

Queen Elizabeth, British Battleship laid down 1912

Displacement:
27.209 t light; 29.125 t standard; 31.028 t normal; 32.427 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
643,30 ft / 643,30 ft x 90,00 ft x 30,80 ft (normal load)
196,08 m / 196,08 m x 27,43 m x 9,39 m

Armament:
8 - 15,00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.687,50lbs / 765,44kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all forward
4 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all aft
4 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
2 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm guns in single mounts, 13,39lbs / 6,07kg shells, 1912 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 15.255 lbs / 6.919 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
4 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,0" / 330 mm 440,00 ft / 134,11 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
Ends: 5,00" / 127 mm 203,00 ft / 61,87 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
Upper: 6,00" / 152 mm 410,00 ft / 124,97 m 8,00 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
2,00" / 51 mm 410,00 ft / 124,97 m 27,00 ft / 8,23 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,0" / 330 mm 8,00" / 203 mm 8,00" / 203 mm
2nd: 6,00" / 152 mm - -
3rd: 6,00" / 152 mm - -

- Armour deck: 4,00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 67.108 shp / 50.063 Kw = 25,00 kts
Range 8.000nm at 12,00 kts (Bunkerage = 3.426 tons)

Complement:
1.168 - 1.519

Cost:
£2,929 million / $11,715 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1.907 tons, 6,1 %
Armour: 10.735 tons, 34,6 %
- Belts: 4.244 tons, 13,7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 819 tons, 2,6 %
- Armament: 2.576 tons, 8,3 %
- Armour Deck: 3.096 tons, 10,0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 2.676 tons, 8,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11.691 tons, 37,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3.820 tons, 12,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 0,6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
30.886 lbs / 14.010 Kg = 18,3 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 3,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
Metacentric height 5,7 ft / 1,7 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 41 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,83
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,09

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0,609
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,15 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25,36 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 31
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28,00 ft / 8,53 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 27,00 ft / 8,23 m
- Mid (66 %): 25,00 ft / 7,62 m (16,00 ft / 4,88 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (16 %): 16,00 ft / 4,88 m
- Stern: 16,00 ft / 4,88 m
- Average freeboard: 22,88 ft / 6,97 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158,2 %
Waterplane Area: 41.831 Square feet or 3.886 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 187 lbs/sq ft or 912 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,63
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

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Sunday, October 3rd 2004, 9:15pm

And the last and older ones...

[SIZE=3]Iron Duke Class - 3 Units[/SIZE]

Benbow
Iron Duke
Malborough

In service but posibly soon to be decommisioned

Iron Duke, British Battleship laid down 1912

Displacement:
23.947 t light; 25.673 t standard; 27.875 t normal; 29.524 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
623,00 ft / 623,00 ft x 90,00 ft x 29,00 ft (normal load)
189,89 m / 189,89 m x 27,43 m x 8,84 m

Armament:
8 - 13,50" / 343 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.230,19lbs / 558,00kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 13,50" / 343 mm guns (1x2 guns), 1.230,18lbs / 558,00kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline amidships
10 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all forward
2 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all aft
2 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
2 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm guns in single mounts, 13,39lbs / 6,07kg shells, 1912 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 13.625 lbs / 6.180 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
4 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12,0" / 305 mm 400,00 ft / 121,92 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
Ends: 5,00" / 127 mm 223,00 ft / 67,97 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
Upper: 8,00" / 203 mm 400,00 ft / 121,92 m 8,00 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
2,00" / 51 mm 400,00 ft / 121,92 m 28,00 ft / 8,53 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11,0" / 279 mm 8,00" / 203 mm 8,00" / 203 mm
2nd: 11,0" / 279 mm 8,00" / 203 mm 8,00" / 203 mm
3rd: 5,00" / 127 mm - -
4th: 5,00" / 127 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3,00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 32.704 shp / 24.397 Kw = 21,00 kts
Range 7.900nm at 12,00 kts (Bunkerage = 3.963 tons)

Complement:
1.078 - 1.402

Cost:
£2,465 million / $9,859 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1.703 tons, 6,1 %
Armour: 9.800 tons, 35,2 %
- Belts: 4.114 tons, 14,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 829 tons, 3,0 %
- Armament: 2.631 tons, 9,4 %
- Armour Deck: 2.226 tons, 8,0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 1.399 tons, 5,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11.044 tons, 39,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3.928 tons, 14,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
34.614 lbs / 15.701 Kg = 28,1 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 4,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22
Metacentric height 6,1 ft / 1,9 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 39 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,71
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,24

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,600
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,92 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,96 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 25
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27,00 ft / 8,23 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 26,00 ft / 7,92 m
- Mid (50 %): 24,00 ft / 7,32 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16,00 ft / 4,88 m
- Stern: 16,00 ft / 4,88 m
- Average freeboard: 22,18 ft / 6,76 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158,1 %
Waterplane Area: 40.113 Square feet or 3.727 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 187 lbs/sq ft or 914 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,68
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Sunday, October 3rd 2004, 9:32pm

Quoted

Armament:
8 - 15,00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.687,50lbs / 765,44kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
Main guns limited to end-on fire


R-class Battleships.


For HMS Iron Duke, sim her with 10x13.5" in 5 turrets, but aft > fore instead of a midships turret.

I think the UK also has HMS Canada (ex-Emperor of India)

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Monday, October 4th 2004, 12:15am

Comments...

Referring to my trusty library copy of Jane's WW1...

Iron Dukes:
The 2 stern 6" had been removed and plated over by 1919.
Should also have 4 x 3-pdr (47mm) and 5 MG (.303?)

Q.E.s:
The 4 stern 6"...etc.
Should also have...etc.

Rs:
Should also have...etc.

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Monday, October 4th 2004, 6:40am

Quoted

Should also have...etc.


I know, I´ve just posted a somewhat generic sims, just to see how they work, besides in wesworld they´ll have a different light AA, posibly including some quadruple 40mm AA guns.