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Tuesday, June 16th 2015, 7:33pm

Kriegsmarine Design Plans for 1947

Projected German naval construction for 1947 sees few new designs at the moment.

1. The Torgau class Fleet Destroyer - the eventual replacements for the refurbished Z214 class destroyers that will soon pay off to the reserve

2. The Amazone class Corvette - a follow-on to the current Bussard class

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Tuesday, June 16th 2015, 7:34pm

Torgau class Fleet Destroyer

Torgau, German Destroyer laid down 1947

Displacement: 2,145 t light; 2,363 t standard; 2,598 t normal; 2,785 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

409.37 ft / 393.70 ft x 39.37 ft x 13.12 ft (normal load) [124.78 m / 120.00 m x 12.00 m x 4.00 m]

Armament:

4 - 5.04" / 128 mm guns (2x2 guns), 63.99lbs / 29.03kg shells, 1947 Model Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.17" / 55.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 5.08lbs / 2.30kg shells, 1945 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount on centreline forward, all raised guns
8 - 2.17" / 55.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 5.08lbs / 2.30kg shells, 1945 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1944 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 308 lbs / 140 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 900
5 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.59" / 15 mm -
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

Conning tower: 1.57" / 40 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 41,097 shp / 30,658 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 422 tons

Complement: 181 - 236

Cost: £1.815 million / $7.259 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 38 tons, 1.5 %
Armour: 21 tons, 0.8 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 15 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 6 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,015 tons, 39.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 940 tons, 36.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 453 tons, 17.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 130 tons, 5.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1,298 lbs / 589 Kg = 20.3 x 5.0 " / 128 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 13.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 85 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.45
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.31

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has rise forward of midbreak and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.447
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00: 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.79 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 28.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.29 ft / 7.10 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.64 ft / 6.90 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m (14.44 ft / 4.40 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.44 ft / 4.40 m
- Stern: 14.44 ft / 4.40 m
- Average freeboard: 18.49 ft / 5.64 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 149.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151.6 %
Waterplane Area: 10,245 Square feet or 952 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 45 lbs/sq ft or 221 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.59
- Longitudinal: 2.90
- Overall: 0.70
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Reserved for air warning radar - 25 tons
Reserved for surface search radar - 25 tons
Reserved for fire control radar - 25 tons
Reserved for AS detection equipment - 20 tons
Reserved for AS outfit including DC and K-guns - 20 tons
Yet to be defined - 15 tons

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Tuesday, June 16th 2015, 7:36pm

Amazone class Corvette

Amazone German Corvette laid down 1947

Displacement: 1,086 t light; 1,154 t standard; 1,375 t normal; 1,552 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

321.83 ft / 311.68 ft x 31.17 ft x 10.17 ft (normal load) [98.09 m / 95.00 m x 9.50 m x 3.10 m]

Armament:

2 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (1x2 guns), 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1947 Model Dual purpose guns in a deck mount with hoist on centreline forward
4 - 2.17" / 55.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 5.08lbs / 2.30kg shells, 1947 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1947 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 92 lbs / 42 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 700

Armour:

Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

Conning tower: 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:

Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 16,111 shp / 12,019 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 7,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 398 tons

Complement: 112 - 146

Cost: £0.752 million / $3.008 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 11 tons, 0.8 %
Armour: 7 tons, 0.5 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 398 tons, 29.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 539 tons, 39.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 288 tons, 21.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 130 tons, 9.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1,422 lbs / 645 Kg = 40.2 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 12.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.24
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.37

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.487
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00: 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.82 ft / 0.25 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.01 ft / 6.10 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.42 ft / 4.70 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Stern: 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Average freeboard: 14.81 ft / 4.51 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 113.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 165.4 %
Waterplane Area: 6,650 Square feet or 618 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 134 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 197 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.72
- Longitudinal: 3.29
- Overall: 0.84
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Saturday, June 20th 2015, 8:20pm

Pfälzerwald class Naval Cargo Vessel

A proposal for conversion of Wuppertal class cargoliners as amphibious cargo ships.

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Pfälzerwald, German Naval Cargo Vessel laid down 1945

Displacement: 4,085 t light; 4,348 t standard; 8,758 t normal; 12,287 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

385.18 ft / 377.30 ft x 55.77 ft x 24.28 ft (normal load) [117.40 m / 115.00 m x 17.00 m x 7.40 m]

Armament:

4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1945 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1945 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1945 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 21 lbs / 9 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 5,000

Machinery:

Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 1 shaft, 6,561 shp / 4,895 Kw = 16.00 kts
Range 75,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 7,939 tons

Complement: 452 - 588

Cost: £1.163 million / $4.652 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 3 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 166 tons, 1.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,927 tons, 22.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,673 tons, 53.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,990 tons, 22.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 26,611 lbs / 12,070 Kg = 17,218.0 x 1.5 " / 37 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 88 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.600
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.76: 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.42 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.29 ft / 7.10 m
- Forecastle (10 %): 20.34 ft / 6.20 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Stern: 23.29 ft / 7.10 m
- Average freeboard: 19.04 ft / 5.80 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 33.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116.8 %
Waterplane Area: 15,055 Square feet or 1,399 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 374 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 74 lbs/sq ft or 364 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.91
- Longitudinal: 2.52
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Low stowed cargo simmed as additional bunkers
Normal radius is 8,000 nm on Bunkers at max (BAM) of 510 tons
Additional bunkerage (3,900 tons) represents cargo

Breakdown of miscellaneous weight:

Provision for Eight Pionier Landungsboot 40 (@62 tons) plus handling gear - 720 tons
Provision for Two Sturm Landungsboot 40 (@20 tons) plus handling hear - 70 tons
Heavy cargo lifting gear -160 tons
Fitting of navigational radar - 20 tons
Fitting of naval communications suite - 20 tons
Additional accommodation spaces - 200 tons
Provision for cargo stowed on the deck - 800 tons

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Sunday, June 21st 2015, 2:29am

Putziger Wiek class Yard Tanker

A mundane but necessary yard auxiliary...

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Putziger Wiek, German Yard Tanker (S/P Oil Barge) laid down 1947

Displacement: 87 t light; 91 t standard; 210 t normal; 306 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

122.19 ft / 118.11 ft x 22.97 ft x 4.92 ft (normal load) [37.24 m / 36.00 m x 7.00 m x 1.50 m]

Armament:

2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1947 Model Machine guns in deck mounts on side, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 4,000

Machinery:

Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 1 shaft, 162 shp / 121 Kw = 10.00 kts
Range 45,500nm at 8.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 215 tons

Complement: 26 - 35

Cost: £0.026 million / $0.104 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 4 tons, 1.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 73 tons, 34.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 124 tons, 58.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 4.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2,727 lbs / 1,237 Kg = 174,586.3 x 0.3 " / 8 mm shells or 4.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.52
Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 90 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has raised quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.551
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.14: 1
'Natural speed' for length: 10.87 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 9.02 ft / 2.75 m
- Mid (50 %): 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarterdeck (22 %): 12.80 ft / 3.90 m (6.56 ft / 2.00 m before break)
- Stern: 12.80 ft / 3.90 m
- Average freeboard: 8.95 ft / 2.73 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 13.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.2 %
Waterplane Area: 1,838 Square feet or 171 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 1,000 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 24 lbs/sq ft or 117 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.85
- Longitudinal: 4.97
- Overall: 1.02
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Oil stowage simmed as additional bunkers. True radius is 3,500 nm on bunkers of 10 tons. Additional bunkers represent 109 tons of fuel oil cargo.

Miscellaneous weight represents handling gear and pumps

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Sunday, June 21st 2015, 6:38pm

Kloster Arnsburg class Water Tanker

More stuff for the service force...

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Kloster Arnsburg, German Water Tanker (S/P Water Barge) laid down 1947

Displacement: 85 t light; 90 t standard; 210 t normal; 306 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

122.19 ft / 118.11 ft x 22.97 ft x 4.92 ft (normal load) [37.24 m / 36.00 m x 7.00 m x 1.50 m]

Armament:

2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1947 Model Machine guns in deck mounts on side, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 4,000

Machinery:

Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 1 shaft, 162 shp / 121 Kw = 10.00 kts
Range 45,900nm at 8.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 217 tons

Complement: 26 - 35

Cost: £0.026 million / $0.103 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 4 tons, 1.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 71 tons, 34.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 125 tons, 59.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 4.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2,734 lbs / 1,240 Kg = 175,014.7 x 0.3 " / 8 mm shells or 4.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.53
Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 90 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has raised quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.551
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.14: 1
'Natural speed' for length: 10.87 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 9.02 ft / 2.75 m
- Mid (50 %): 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarterdeck (22 %): 12.80 ft / 3.90 m (6.56 ft / 2.00 m before break)
- Stern: 12.80 ft / 3.90 m
- Average freeboard: 8.95 ft / 2.73 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 13.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.2 %
Waterplane Area: 1,838 Square feet or 171 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 1,000 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 24 lbs/sq ft or 115 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.84
- Longitudinal: 4.90
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Water stowage simmed as additional bunkers. True radius is 3,500 nm on bunkers of 10 tons. Additional bunkers represent 110 tons of fresh water cargo.

Miscellaneous weight represents handling gear and pumps

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Tuesday, June 23rd 2015, 2:25am

Traisen class Small Support Tanker

The Kriegsmarine had previously considered construction of a run of small support tankers built to naval specifications but these plans were abandoned due to cost. In place the Traisen class was projected as mercantile conversions of standard Typ 1 parcel tankers.

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Traisen, German Small Support Tanker (Conversion) laid down 1944

Displacement: 1,097 t light; 1,173 t standard; 3,670 t normal; 5,666 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

314.18 ft / 310.70 ft x 48.23 ft x 15.58 ft (normal load) [95.76 m / 94.70 m x 14.70 m x 4.75 m]

Armament:

1 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, Model 1944 Model Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount on centreline forward, 1 raised gun
2 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1944 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 2 lbs / 1 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 2,000

Machinery:

Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 1 shaft, 3,173 shp / 2,367 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 69,750nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,493 tons

Complement: 235 - 306

Cost: £0.336 million / $1.344 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 81 tons, 2.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 891 tons, 24.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,572 tons, 70.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 125 tons, 3.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 39,096 lbs / 17,734 Kg = 25,296.2 x 1.5 " / 37 mm shells or 13.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.98
Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 9.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.44: 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17.63 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 13.94 ft / 4.25 m
- Mid (50 %): 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Quarterdeck (25 %): 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Stern: 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Average freeboard: 12.54 ft / 3.82 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 12.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.9 %
Waterplane Area: 10,142 Square feet or 942 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 1,000 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 58 lbs/sq ft or 283 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.69
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Converted from Typ 1 Small Parcel Tankers

Cargo simmed as additional bunkers; actual radius 8,000 nm at 12 knots; Cargo 3,800 tons of POL in twenty four tanks.

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weight:

25 tons for deck gear
100 tons for additional piping and pumps

Cost to Convert: 165 tons

Time to Convert: 46 days

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Monday, November 16th 2015, 12:11pm

Nurnburg class Light Cruiser

Nurnburg, German Light Cruiser laid down 1947

Displacement: 11,476 t light; 12,120 t standard; 13,905 t normal; 15,333 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

664.83 ft / 652.89 ft x 65.29 ft x 23.79 ft (normal load) [202.64 m / 199.00 m x 19.90 m x 7.25 m]

Armament:

15 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (5x3 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1947 Model Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes) on centreline ends, majority forward, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 5.04" / 128 mm guns (1x2 guns), 63.99lbs / 29.03kg shells, 1947 Model Dual purpose guns in a deck mount with hoist on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
12 - 5.04" / 128 mm guns (6x2 guns), 63.99lbs / 29.03kg shells, 1947 Model Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists on side, evenly spread
16 - 2.17" / 55.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 5.08lbs / 2.30kg shells, 1947 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1947 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2,523 lbs / 1,144 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 240
8 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 367.45 ft / 112.00 m 10.66 ft / 3.25 m
Ends: 1.18" / 30 mm 285.43 ft / 87.00 m 10.66 ft / 3.25 m
Upper: 1.18" / 30 mm 367.45 ft / 112.00 m 10.66 ft / 3.25 m
Main Belt covers 87 % of normal length

Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 3.15" / 80 mm 3.15" / 80 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
4th: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

Armour deck: 2.36" / 60 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 97,087 shp / 72,427 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 14,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,214 tons

Complement: 639 - 832

Cost: £7.290 million / $29.159 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 315 tons, 2.3 %
Armour: 3,156 tons, 22.7 %
- Belts: 1,314 tons, 9.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 502 tons, 3.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1,267 tons, 9.1 %
- Conning Tower: 74 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 2,398 tons, 17.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,306 tons, 38.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,429 tons, 17.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 2.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 20,316 lbs / 9,215 Kg = 197.3 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00: 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.23 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.81 ft / 10.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Stern: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Average freeboard: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147.2 %
Waterplane Area: 28,996 Square feet or 2,694 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 129 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 562 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.34
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Miscellaneous Weight

Reserved for radar and electronics suite - 150 tons
Reserved for future requirements – 150

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Monday, November 16th 2015, 6:45pm

Is the Main Battery in a "Myoko"/"Brooklyn"-type layout or a "Mogami"-type layout?

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Monday, November 16th 2015, 6:45pm

Is the Main Battery in a "Myoko"/"Brooklyn"-type layout or a "Mogami"-type layout?


The intent is Brooklyn.

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Monday, November 16th 2015, 9:47pm

Is the Main Battery in a "Myoko"/"Brooklyn"-type layout or a "Mogami"-type layout?


The intent is Brooklyn.
Thanks, just curious. Nice design BTW!

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Tuesday, November 17th 2015, 9:35am

Just when I thought the 6in cruiser was dead the Germans bring back to life the General Belgrano design and pump it up some more!
Well armed, very well armoured for a CL, fast and excellent range. This is a tough cruiser to beat, for commerce raiding I'd say very deadly and in terms of fleet escort she has the kind of surface and AA firepower to offer valuable defence.

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Tuesday, November 17th 2015, 12:14pm

The Kriegsmarine's "Gun-Club" is happy to have surprised you. :D

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Tuesday, November 17th 2015, 2:33pm

I worry whether such a ship is an anachronism at this late date, assuming they complete in 1949, given the inevitable rise of automatic main guns and more sophisticated methods of aerial and underwater attack?
My trend is towards smaller cruisers, another reason my 6in designs were not inspiring me.

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Tuesday, November 17th 2015, 2:51pm

I worry whether such a ship is an anachronism at this late date, assuming they complete in 1949, given the inevitable rise of automatic main guns and more sophisticated methods of aerial and underwater attack?
My trend is towards smaller cruisers, another reason my 6in designs were not inspiring me.


I suppose they are somewhat of an anachronism in that they don't have automatic 15cm guns; I'll not go into my reasons for eschewing them - I think I've made that clear before. Germany is building enough air defense ships (between the Asperns and the Wiesbadens) but is very short on gun cruisers. So for once the "Black Shoe Gun Club" triumphed over the "Brown Shoe Aero Club".

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Tuesday, November 17th 2015, 3:29pm

Quoted

My trend is towards smaller cruisers, another reason my 6in designs were not inspiring me.

Somewhat similar with me. The last ~6" cruiser for Japan was the Naka class from 1934. All light cruiser classes after that one carry the 5" gun as main armament. Looking at the UK, I see the same with the last 6" armed cruiser to be built being the 1935 Colony Class and Scylla Class. All later cruisers laid down are armed with the 4.5" DP or 5.5" automatic.

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Tuesday, November 17th 2015, 4:06pm

The Russians may surprise you as well, since I'm still planning more 6" armed cruisers.

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Tuesday, November 17th 2015, 6:57pm

I would think that the Russian ones you are planning would be somewhat like the Avrora-class which is armed with automatic ~6" guns.

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Tuesday, May 3rd 2016, 4:10pm

Westfalen class Aviation Support Ship

Westfalen, German Aviation Support Ship laid down 1947

Displacement: 12,200 t light; 12,640 t standard; 15,073 t normal; 17,019 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

715.49 ft / 688.98 ft x 73.16 ft x 19.03 ft (normal load) [218.08 m / 210.00 m x 22.30 m x 5.80 m]

Armament:

16 - 2.17" / 55.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 5.08lbs / 2.30kg shells, 1947 Model Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1947 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 82 lbs / 37 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 3,000

Armour:

Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 447.83 ft / 136.50 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.18" / 30 mm 447.83 ft / 136.50 m 19.03 ft / 5.80 m

Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.59" / 15 mm -

Armour deck: 0.79" / 20 mm, Conning tower: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 42,989 shp / 32,070 Kw = 26.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,379 tons

Complement: 679 - 884

Cost: £4.262 million / $17.047 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 12 tons, 0.1 %
Armour: 1,164 tons, 7.7 %
- Belts: 218 tons, 1.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 372 tons, 2.5 %
- Armament: 14 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 534 tons, 3.5 %
- Conning Tower: 26 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,062 tons, 7.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,961 tons, 39.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,873 tons, 19.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 4,000 tons, 26.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 44,604 lbs / 20,232 Kg = 8,786.6 x 2.2 " / 55 mm shells or 6.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 15.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.42: 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.93 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.87 ft / 8.80 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 28.87 ft / 8.80 m
- Mid (50 %): 28.87 ft / 8.80 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 28.87 ft / 8.80 m
- Stern: 28.87 ft / 8.80 m
- Average freeboard: 28.87 ft / 8.80 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 296.6 %
Waterplane Area: 36,624 Square feet or 3,403 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 204 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 100 lbs/sq ft or 487 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 2.00
- Overall: 1.05
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Breakdown of miscellaneous weight

Air group - 50 aircraft - 2,500 tons
Crated spare aircraft for assembly - 28 a/c @ 25 tons - 700 tons
Air and surface warning radars - 100 tons
Fire control radars and gun directors - 100 tons
Flight operations center - 100 tons
Enhanced damage control system - 150 tons
Aviation equipment - catapults, elevators, etc - 200 tons
Additional aviation workshop and magazine spaces - 150 tons

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Tuesday, May 3rd 2016, 4:19pm

It's more a carrier than an aviation support vessel, or ?