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Tuesday, December 16th 2014, 5:39pm

Chilean Ships for 1946

There's only one new class of ship being laid down in Chile in 1946, but it's a fairly important one: a replacement for the aging light cruisers of the Armada.

I've always rather admired this cruiser design on Shipbucket, and I've had a bit of a hankering to put together a ship to match the drawing. I received permission from the artist (Huehen) to use it for Wesworld Chile.

Last year, Chile retired the aging Astraea-class flak cruisers without immediate replacement. Similarly, the Concepción[/url] class CLAAs are aging, and further modernizations for old vessels aren't deemed practicable for economic reasons. All things considered, Chile really rather liked these ships once they had been refitted, as they gave a good capability to the fleet. But a thirty-year old hull is still a thirty-year old hull, even if it bristles with dual-purpose guns and radar, and Chile thinks it can do better. Thus, ASMAR naval construction yards presented a replacement for the four CLAAs of those two classes. The design focuses mainly around a dual-purpose automatic 15cm gun in four twin turrets, and twelve additional 75mm guns for close-in defense. Armour is mediocre - it is not deemed all that important for an AA cruiser. Currently, four ships are planned, although I wouldn't feel averse to going as high as eight to twelve ships. I suppose it depends on whether or not Peru stays NPC.

Once these ships are in the fleet, I will have a surface action group composed of the following:
- 2 9x12" battlecruisers
- 1 heavy fleet carrier
- 1 medium fleet carrier
- 1 9x10" heavy cruiser
- 2 12x7.5" heavy cruisers
- 4 12x6" light cruisers
- 4 8x6" light cruisers
- Escorts and auxiliaries

Quoted



Araucanía / Ersatz Astraea, Chilean Cruiser Ligero Antiaérea laid down 1946

Displacement:
8,000 t light; 8,583 t standard; 9,925 t normal; 10,999 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
616.80 ft / 600.72 ft x 54.63 ft x 21.33 ft (normal load)
188.00 m / 183.10 m x 16.65 m x 6.50 m

Armament:
8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 114.86lbs / 52.10kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,089 lbs / 494 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 600
6 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2.36" / 60 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 2.36" / 60 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.77" / 45 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 81,609 shp / 60,880 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 8,500nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,416 tons

Complement:
496 - 646

Cost:
£4.895 million / $19.578 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 149 tons, 1.5 %
Armour: 1,465 tons, 14.8 %
- Belts: 449 tons, 4.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 234 tons, 2.4 %
- Armour Deck: 743 tons, 7.5 %
- Conning Tower: 39 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,038 tons, 20.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,974 tons, 40.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,925 tons, 19.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 375 tons, 3.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,835 lbs / 6,729 Kg = 144.1 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.47
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.496
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.78 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m
- Quarterdeck (30 %): 13.45 ft / 4.10 m (21.98 ft / 6.70 m before break)
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 20.13 ft / 6.14 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 167.2 %
Waterplane Area: 22,660 Square feet or 2,105 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 140 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 497 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.00
- Longitudinal: 1.65
- Overall: 1.05
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Notes:
148 tons for four automatic 15cm gun turrets (+37 tons each turret)
227 tons for all other miscellaneous weight including radar
No aircraft - extensive electronics and command spaces

Ships in Class:
- Araucanía (CLAA-24)
- Los Lagos (CLAA-25)
- Valparaíso (CLAA-26)
- Bío Bío (CLAA-27)

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Tuesday, December 16th 2014, 5:54pm

Personally I would use the midbreak for the break and set it to 70% (71 to be a bit more exact). In a sense, the way they are now in the sim, the aft turrets would be at the same height as the two forward turrets. Other than that, nice ship and nice pic.

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Tuesday, December 16th 2014, 9:48pm

Personally I would use the midbreak for the break and set it to 70% (71 to be a bit more exact). In a sense, the way they are now in the sim, the aft turrets would be at the same height as the two forward turrets. Other than that, nice ship and nice pic.

A fair comment, I suppose. I didn't really think about it that way. I shall re-sim it tonight and see if anything changes (although I don't expect it will).

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Tuesday, December 16th 2014, 10:25pm

With a test I ended up with a slightly higher hull strength.

There are 2 other minor things I noticed...
- Looking at the picture, I see 4 AA gun positions while according to the sim, there should only be 2 visible. Judging by the size of the position, it could be twins on the centerline superfiring the main guns and singles on the side.
- The 75mm guns should be superfiring but according to SS, it should not really matter. Just looks a bit more proper to me. :)

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Wednesday, December 17th 2014, 12:11am

I agree with the assessment about mediocre armor. It is, however, a reasonably economic package so long as the main battery performs as advertised.

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Friday, April 17th 2015, 7:02pm

Think the issues are fixed...

Quoted

Araucanía-class, Chilean Cruiser Ligero Antiaérea laid down 1946

Displacement:
8,000 t light; 8,583 t standard; 9,925 t normal; 10,999 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
616.80 ft / 600.72 ft x 54.63 ft x 21.33 ft (normal load)
188.00 m / 183.10 m x 16.65 m x 6.50 m

Armament:
8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 114.86lbs / 52.10kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,089 lbs / 494 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 600
6 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.35" / 85 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 2.36" / 60 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.77" / 45 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 81,604 shp / 60,877 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 8,500nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,416 tons

Complement:
496 - 646

Cost:
£4.895 million / $19.578 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 149 tons, 1.5 %
Armour: 1,628 tons, 16.4 %
- Belts: 636 tons, 6.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 211 tons, 2.1 %
- Armour Deck: 743 tons, 7.5 %
- Conning Tower: 39 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,038 tons, 20.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,810 tons, 38.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,925 tons, 19.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 375 tons, 3.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,847 lbs / 6,734 Kg = 144.2 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 63 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.496
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.78 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (35 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m
- Mid (70 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m (13.45 ft / 4.10 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (30 %): 14.11 ft / 4.30 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 20.31 ft / 6.19 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 167.2 %
Waterplane Area: 22,660 Square feet or 2,105 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 137 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 97 lbs/sq ft or 474 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.62
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 148 tons for four automatic 15cm gun turrets (+37 tons each turret)
- 90 tons for Suite-47 electronics
- 18 tons for eight reload torpedoes (4,410 lb each)
- 30 tons for air-conditioning and heating
- 30 tons for miscellaneous radio, electronics and ECM gear
- 59 tons for crew comforts and future additions
375 tons total miscellaneous weight

Ships in Class:
- Araucanía (CLAA-24)
- Los Lagos (CLAA-25)
- Valparaíso (CLAA-26)
- Bío Bío (CLAA-27)

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Friday, April 17th 2015, 8:24pm

Few things:

- Maybe I calculate something wrong but would 8x 4410 lb torpedoes not be more like 15.75 tons?
- Considering that you have 6 TTs (most likely 2x3), would it not be better to have either 6, 9 or 12 reloads?

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Friday, April 17th 2015, 9:16pm

Considering that you have 6 TTs (most likely 2x3), would it not be better to have either 6, 9 or 12 reloads?

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