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Australia Naval Developments - Q1/1943

A. Industrial Allocation

10 of 10 factories producing warship material for 10,000 tons, plus a stockpile of 200 t for 10,200 t. 10,000 t are used, leaving a stockpile of 200 t.
0 of 10 factories are dedicated to infrastructure material production, and produce 0 pts plus 0 bonus points.

B. Infrastructure Development

C. Naval Construction

Cockatoo Island (Sydney)

S3: CVL Intrepid receives 2,500t, completed
S2: CE Erebrus receives 1,500t, 5,500t remaining
S1: SS K-class receives 1,000t, completed
S1: SS K-class receives 1,000t, completed
S0:

Sydney

D3: LSH Coral Sea receives 2,500t, 5,000t remaining
D2: CE Terror receives 1,500t, 5,500t remaining
D1: Scrapping PV Polar class 123t to be recovered Q4/43

Auckland

D2:

Perth

D1: Scrapping PV Polar class 123t to be recovered Q4/43

Port Moresby

D1: Scrapping PV Polar class 123t to be recovered Q4/43

Darwin

D1: Scrapping PV Polar class 123t to be recovered Q4/43



D. Transactions


E. Other Notes

New units laid down this quarter:

CE Erebrus
CE Terror
LSH Coral Sea
SS K-class
SS K-class

490t to be recovered Q4/43

F. Updated Order of Battle

Note: Y)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Capital Ships: 6(0)+0
Aircraft Carriers: 4(0)+1
Seaplane Carriers: 2(0)+0
Landing Ships: 0(0)+1
Heavy Cruisers: 8(0)+0
Light Cruisers: 34(0)+0
Escort Cruisers: 2(0)+2
Destroyer Leaders: 4(0)+0
Destroyers: 70(0)+0
Submarines: 60(0)+2
Frigates: 45(0)+0
Multi-Purpose: 4(0)+0
Minewarefare: 4(0)+0
Fleet Oilers: 2(0)+0
Motor Boats: 30(0)+0
Research ships: 6(0)-4
Museum ships: 1(0)+0
Civilian Ships: 2(0)+0

Since you are waiting for someone to notice - it is Q1 1943, not Q1 2043... fork over the sonic screwdriver Doctor. :P

Australia Naval Developments - Q2/1943


A. Industrial Allocation

10 of 10 factories producing warship material for 10,000 tons, plus a stockpile of 200 t for 10,200 t. 10,000 t are used, leaving a stockpile of 200 t.
0 of 10 factories are dedicated to infrastructure material production, and produce 0 pts plus 0 bonus points.

B. Infrastructure Development

C. Naval Construction

Cockatoo Island (Sydney)
S3: LSH Carpentaria receives 2,500t, 5,000t remaining
S2: CE Erebrus receives 1,500t, 4,000t remaining
S1: SS K-class receives 1,000t, completed
S1: SS K-class receives 1,000t, completed
S0:

Sydney
D3: LSH Coral Sea receives 2,500t, 2,500t remaining
D2: CE Terror receives 1,500t, 4,000t remaining
D1: Scrapping FFA class, 123t to be recovered Q1/44


Auckland
D2: Scrapping FFA class, 123t to be recovered Q1/44

Perth
D1: Scrapping FFA class, 123t to be recovered Q1/44

Port Moresby
D1: Scrapping FFA class, 123t to be recovered Q1/44

Darwin
D1: Scrapping FFA class, 123t to be recovered Q1/44

D. Transactions

E. Other Notes

New units laid down this quarter:

LSH Carpentaria
SS K-class
SS K-class

490t to be recovered Q4/43
620t to be recovered Q1/44

F. Updated Order of Battle

Note: X (Y)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Capital Ships: 6(0)+0
Aircraft Carriers: 5(0)+0
Seaplane Carriers: 2(0)+0
Landing Ships: 0(0)+1
Heavy Cruisers: 8(0)+0
Light Cruisers: 34(0)+0
Escort Cruisers: 2(0)+2
Destroyer Leaders: 4(0)+0
Destroyers: 70(0)+0
Submarines: 62(0)+2
Frigates: 45(0)-5
Multi-Purpose: 4(0)+0
Minewarefare: 4(0)+0
Fleet Oilers: 2(0)+0
Motor Boats: 30(0)+0
Research ships: 2(0)+0
Museum ships: 1(0)+0
Civilian Ships: 2(0)+0

Australia Naval Developments - Q3/1943

A. Industrial Allocation

10 of 10 factories producing warship material for 10,000 tons, plus a stockpile of 200 t for 10,200 t. 10,000 t are used, leaving a stockpile of 200 t.
0 of 10 factories are dedicated to infrastructure material production, and produce 0 pts plus 0 bonus points.

B. Infrastructure Development

C. Naval Construction

Cockatoo Island (Sydney)
S3: LSH Carpentaria receives 2,500t, 2,500t remaining
S2: CE Erebrus receives 2,000t, 2,000t remaining
S1: SS K-class receives 1,000t, completed
S1:
S0:

Sydney
D3: LSH Coral Sea receives 2,500t, completed
D2: CE Terror receives 2,000t, 2,000t remaining
D1:

Auckland
D2:

Perth
D1: Scrapping J-class 210t to be recovered Q3/44

Port Moresby
D1: Scrapping J-class 210t to be recovered Q3/44

Darwin
D1: Scrapping J-class 210t to be recovered Q3/44

D. Transactions

E. Other Notes

Ships completing:

CVL Intrepid, Q4/43
SS K-class, Q4/43
SS K-class, Q4/43
SS K-class, Q1/44
SS K-class, Q1/44


New units laid down this quarter:

LSH Carpentaria
SS K-class
SS K-class

Scrap:

490t to be recovered Q1/44
620t to be recovered Q2/44
630t to be recovered Q3/44

F. Updated Order of Battle

Note: böseY)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Capital Ships: 6(0)+0
Aircraft Carriers: 5(0)+0
Seaplane Carriers: 2(0)+0
Landing Ships: 0(0)+2
Heavy Cruisers: 8(0)+0
Light Cruisers: 34(0)+0
Escort Cruisers: 2(0)+2
Destroyer Leaders: 4(0)+0
Destroyers: 70(0)+0
Submarines: 64(0)+1-3
Frigates: 40(0)+0
Multi-Purpose: 4(0)+0
Minewarefare: 4(0)+0
Fleet Oilers: 2(0)+0
Motor Boats: 30(0)+0
Research ships: 2(0)+0
Museum ships: 1(0)+0
Civilian Ships: 2(0)+0

Hmm... a few things that I have noticed...
1) From what I can remember while looking for the Intrepid, she was laid down in Q2/1942. That would mean that she would be under construction until the middle of Q4/1943. In the Q1/1943 report, you indicated that she is 'completed' and in the Q2 report, you moved from "Aircraft Carriers: 4(0)+1" to "Aircraft Carriers: 5(0)+0"
2) You said that the "Intrepid is just a repeat of the Enterprise carrier hybrid", but you only put 10,000 tons (4x 2,500 tons) of materials in her while she would need 10,164 tons.
3) I see the same thing happening with the K class submarines. (requires a bit over 10 months and 1,074 tons to build but you build them in 3 months and only put 1,000 tons into them).
4) Probably the same thing happening with other vessels.
5) I don't see an SS sim for the J-class submarine just some stats, but based on those stats, I think you would get more than 150 tons per hull.
6) The Polar class, the FFA class and the J-class take a bit more than 3 months to scrap, so it would cover 2 quarters to scrap them and not 1, meaning the tonnages would be available in Q1/44, Q2/44 and Q3/44 respectively and not Q3/43, Q1/44 amd Q2/44.

Doing a quick sim using the data given and a linedrawing of the historical J class, I get a light displacement of 1451 tons, which would give you 217.65 tons.

1 & 3) Completed refers to payment, Ill add a note stating when the ships actually finish constructon.

2 & 3) I need to do an updated SS2 for the ships, get the light weight down to nice clean numbers.

5 & 6) Fixed

Quoted from "Desertfox"

1 & 3) Completed refers to payment, Ill add a note stating when the ships actually finish constructon.

That would be extremely helpful. One of the things that's frustrated a number of us dealing with the Italian sim reports issue is the general lack of important information such as lay-down and completion dates, which can trip people up when they're filling in after departed players.

HMAS Intrepid, Australia Light Carrier laid down 1943

Displacement:
9,998 t light; 10,350 t standard; 12,192 t normal; 13,666 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
681.66 ft / 670.00 ft x 67.00 ft x 19.40 ft (normal load)
207.77 m / 204.22 m x 20.42 m x 5.91 m

Armament:
6 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (2x3 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1943 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1943 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1943 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
20 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (10x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1943 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 940 lbs / 426 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 190
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 370.00 ft / 112.78 m 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.20" / 30 mm 2.90" / 74 mm
2nd: 1.20" / 30 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.20" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 79,665 shp / 59,430 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,316 tons

Complement:
579 - 754

Cost:
£4.822 million / $19.287 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 118 tons, 1.0 %
Armour: 1,263 tons, 10.4 %
- Belts: 426 tons, 3.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 152 tons, 1.2 %
- Armour Deck: 684 tons, 5.6 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,057 tons, 16.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,660 tons, 38.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,195 tons, 18.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,900 tons, 15.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
20,424 lbs / 9,264 Kg = 189.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 15.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.33

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.57 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Stern: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Average freeboard: 21.48 ft / 6.55 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 193.3 %
Waterplane Area: 30,816 Square feet or 2,863 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 148 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 492 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.18
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

K2 Class, Australia Submarine laid down 1943

Displacement:
1,006 t light; 1,032 t standard; 1,157 t normal; 1,258 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
270.00 ft / 270.00 ft x 25.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)
82.30 m / 82.30 m x 7.62 m x 3.66 m

Armament:
1 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1943 Model
Breech loading gun in deck mount
on centreline forward
2 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1943 Model
Machine guns in deck mount
on centreline amidships, all raised guns - superfiring
Weight of broadside 32 lbs / 15 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 2,479 shp / 1,849 Kw = 17.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 226 tons

Complement:
98 - 128

Cost:
£0.311 million / $1.246 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 64 tons, 5.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 698 tons, 60.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 151 tons, 13.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 240 tons, 20.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
907 lbs / 412 Kg = 28.4 x 4.0 " / 102 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 0 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.80 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16.43 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Stern: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Average freeboard: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 0.0 %
Waterplane Area: 4,497 Square feet or 418 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 289 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 117 lbs/sq ft or 570 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 3.91
- Longitudinal: 1.01
- Overall: 1.42
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

How many aircraft is the Intrepid intended to operate?

I'd assume forty, though it'd be a stretch on that displacement with that main battery.

36 same as her sister ship.

Quoted from "Desertfox"

36 same as her sister ship.

Thank you.

So... looking at the reports, you put 10,000 tons into the carrier while only 9,998 tons are needed and you put 1,000 tons into the subs while 1,006 tons are needed...

I was a bit suspicious about the stability of the submarine until I saw the extremely low depth:beam ratio. I guess I will call the K-class submarines, the Submarine Sandwich.

Can we keep Ship designs and discussions thereof in the Ship design section, and keep the industrial reports section clear for....industrial reports?

Australia Naval Developments - Q4/1943

A. Industrial Allocation

10 of 10 factories producing warship material for 10,000 tons, plus a stockpile of 200 t for 10,200 t. 10,200 t are used, leaving a stockpile of 0t.
0 of 10 factories are dedicated to infrastructure material production, and produce 0 pts plus 0 bonus points.

B. Infrastructure Development

C. Naval Construction

Cockatoo Island (Sydney)
S3: LSH Carpentaria receives 2,500t, completed
S2: CE Erebrus receives 2,000t, completed
S1: CVS Imp Albatros receives 1,000t, 2,000t remaining (Q4/44)
S1:
S0:

Sydney
D3: BC "Invincible" (Wombat) receives 1,200t, 24,000t remaining (Q3/46)
D2: CE Terror receives 2,000t, completed
D1:

Auckland
D2: DDH Charon receives 1,500t, 1,500t remaining (Q4/44)

Perth
D1:

Port Moresby
D1:

Darwin
D1:

D. Transactions

E. Other Notes

Ships completing:

CVL Intrepid, Q4/43
SS K-class, Q4/43
SS K-class, Q4/43

SS K-class, Q1/44
SS K-class, Q1/44
SS K-class, Q2/44
LHS Coral Sea Q2/44
CE Erebrus Q2/44
CE Terror Q2/44
LHS Carpentaria Q3/44

New units laid down this quarter:

BC "Invincible"
CVS Improved Albatross (1)
DDH Charon (1)

Scrap:

490t to be recovered Q1/44
620t to be recovered Q2/44
630t to be recovered Q3/44

F. Updated Order of Battle

Note: X (Y)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Capital Ships: 6(0)+1
Aircraft Carriers: 5(0)+0
Seaplane Carriers: 2(0)+1
Landing Ships: 0(0)+2
Heavy Cruisers: 8(0)+0
Light Cruisers: 34(0)+0
Escort Cruisers: 2(0)+2
Destroyer Leaders: 4(0)+1
Destroyers: 70(0)+0
Submarines: 64(0)+1
Frigates: 40(0)+0
Multi-Purpose: 4(0)+0
Minewarefare: 4(0)+0
Fleet Oilers: 2(0)+0
Motor Boats: 30(0)+0
Research ships: 2(0)+0
Museum ships: 1(0)+0
Civilian Ships: 2(0)+0