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Sunday, March 30th 2014, 11:58pm

Chilean Ships for 1945

There really isn't a whole lot going on this year in Chile - just continuing/completing construction on several big projects, and polishing off the last of the Bolados class escort destroyers. However, four new ships will be laid down, three of them being new submarines to replace the Capitan O'Brien class, soon to be obsoleted out. The fourth ship will be the Chile's first dock landing ship.

Later in the year, the light cruiser Picunches will also meet her first refit, with the goal of modernizing her to a level approaching the rest of the fleet.

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Monday, March 31st 2014, 12:01am

Basically, this is a refined version of the 1940 Gualcolda-class submarine with improved streamlining, better batteries, and the elimination of the 1.1" deck gun.

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Janequeo-class Submarine
Date: 1945
Type: Oceanic
Length: 95.0m
Beam: 8.8m
Draft: 5.7m
Crush depth: 317.5m
Light Displacement 1650t
Loaded Displacement 2054t
Full Displacement 2383t
wt fuel&batts: 680t
Reserve buoyancy: 14%

Armament:
- 8 x 533mm (6x bow, 2x stern)
- 24 tons for mines or reload torpedoes
ElecHP: 4725hp
DieselHP: 6750hp
Speed:
- Max Surf Speed: 18.8 knots
- Max Sub Speed: 15.5 knots
Range:
- Surfaced: 18,561nm@10 knots
- Submerged: 201nm@6 knots / 30nm@12 knots
Tons Oil: 380.0t
Tons Battery: 300.0t
Miscellaneous Weight: 69 tons

Crew: 65

Units in Class:
- Janequeo
- Lauca
- Glaura

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Monday, March 31st 2014, 12:09am

The Armada de Chile has long held concerns about investing such a large portion of their amphibious striking power in a single very large hull (specifically, the landing ship Valdivia). As a result, there are going to be further efforts to diversify the amphibious squadron through the construction of a dock landing ship.

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Disembarkment of Pisagua, Chilean Landing Ship Dock laid down 1945

Displacement:
5,250 t light; 5,477 t standard; 7,871 t normal; 9,786 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
473.17 ft / 459.32 ft x 72.18 ft x 15.09 ft (normal load)
144.22 m / 140.00 m x 22.00 m x 4.60 m

Armament:
4 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (2x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.41kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.10" / 27.9 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.67lbs / 0.30kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 294 lbs / 134 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 400

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 4,506 shp / 3,361 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 26,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,309 tons

Complement:
417 - 543

Cost:
£1.593 million / $6.373 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 37 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 114 tons, 1.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,500 tons, 31.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,621 tons, 33.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,600 tons, 33.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
24,004 lbs / 10,888 Kg = 358.1 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 4.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.32
Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 13.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.72

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.551
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.36 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.26 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 29 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (50 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 17.18 ft / 5.24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 46.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 181.2 %
Waterplane Area: 24,102 Square feet or 2,239 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 252 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 391 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.33
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 260t for 1x Barcaza M300 (Tank Landing Craft)
- 150t for tanks or supplies embarked aboard M300
- 280t for 8x LCM-35 landing craft (35t each)
- 216t for supplies or vehicles embarked for LCM-35s
- 1360t for 680 troops
- 25t for radar and electronics
- 9t for climatization
- 300t for all other supplies
2,600 tons total

Notes:
- 2,879 tons for water in well deck simmed as fuel; range is actually 8,500nm at 15 knots (1,430 tons of fuel)
- Well deck is 67m long by 15.5m wide by 2.75 meters deep, with total water weight of 2,877.2 tons
- Instead of Barcaza M300 + 8x LCM-35, well deck can carry up to 906 tons of amphibious vehicles; exact loadout depends upon mission requirements and can be changed in the field.

Organization of the Well Deck:
- 1x 36x10m Barcaza (Tank Landing Craft Mk.6)
- 2x 13.6x4.26m LCM-35 (mechanized landing craft) beside it.
- 3x 13.6x4.26m LCM-35 (mechanized landing craft) ahead of it.
- 3x 13.6x4.26m LCM-35 (mechanized landing craft) ahead of those.
Max load of 1x Barcaza and 8x LCM-35


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Barcaza M300
Displacement: 284 short tons (258 t)
Length: 36 m
Beam: 10 m
Draft: 1.5 m
Propulsion: 3 × 225 hp Austral marine diesels, 3 shafts
Speed: 8 knots
Range: 650 nm at 8 knots
Capacity: 135 metric tons of cargo
Crew : 12
Armament:
---- 2 × single 20 mm AA gun mounts
---- Up to 4 × single 50 cal. machine guns

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Monday, March 31st 2014, 12:56am

The Janequeo looks like a Guppy conversion, too streamlined and too fast underwater. Are we allowing Type XXI and Guppies already?

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Monday, March 31st 2014, 12:56am

It's interesting comparing the LSD with the Bharati design (not yet posted). Same beam and draught, similar light displacement, but some fairly different apportionment of the payload.

The well deck's pretty short compared to historical types.

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Monday, March 31st 2014, 1:18am

The Janequeo looks like a Guppy conversion, too streamlined and too fast underwater. Are we allowing Type XXI and Guppies already?


I'm eyeballing similar ideas for Bharat's boats. Expect Iberia will do the same when it decides it needs more subs.

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Monday, March 31st 2014, 1:27am

The Janequeo looks like a Guppy conversion, too streamlined and too fast underwater. Are we allowing Type XXI and Guppies already?

I think it's mainly the effect of the sail not having a platform fore or aft. Since I'm not using the pedestal-mounted 1.1" gun, I replaced the old fashioned sail with something a bit closer to the Lautaro-class minelaying submarines. I altered the bow just a tiny bit to mount the covered hydrophones, too. But otherwise, the drawing is exactly the same as the 1939 Gualcolda class submarines.



It's interesting comparing the LSD with the Bharati design (not yet posted). Same beam and draught, similar light displacement, but some fairly different apportionment of the payload.

The well deck's pretty short compared to historical types.

Yeah. When I started designing LSDs, I made a wild guess at the length of the well deck, and I came up pretty short. This is actually a modification of the first (1940 dated) LSD that I designed: I doubled the well deck and made it conform to our rules regarding well decks.

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Monday, March 31st 2014, 9:51am

Some OTL French and Italian subs were pretty sleek too around the conning tower so I see no major problem.
Without the increased capacity batteries and snort etc. its not a Guppy clone.

Nice drawing BTW!

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Monday, March 31st 2014, 2:05pm

Some OTL French and Italian subs were pretty sleek too around the conning tower so I see no major problem.
Without the increased capacity batteries and snort etc. its not a Guppy clone.

Well, Janequeo will have a snort, but the preceding Gualcolda class has one, too, so I don't feel that's particularly an issue.